Mass shooting @ Baptist church Sutherland Springs, Texas

It's rural TX, that will never happen. Outside of him giving a statement to the kopsch, I doubt he is even being "investigated" for any wrongdoing.

-Mike

I'm not saying you are wrong, but do you understand how things in regards to police and prosecutors work in rural Texas?
 
That's cute, but it's not happening- The metrics and the memetics of this particular event don't fit their narrative; the fact that a citizen eventually intervened and likely saved a lot of lives is something they don't want to have to talk about. If we were talking about 50-100 toddlers getting smoked in NYC (or some other moonbat enclave here) the narrative would be completely different and you'd be hearing that drum for months instead of a week or less.

Even if an AWB renewal is fronted I doubt if its going to get much support outside of hard core gun hating invulnerable district moonbats in congress. The dem party is undergoing a shit-storm right now and the smarter ones know that waxing about gun control is not going to help them fix their problems. I am waiting for that "moment" when one of them snaps (say a southern democrat) and just tells their "comrade" that is talking about gun control to just shut the **** up. I am hoping these DNC leaks and all that scandal corrodes them such that they have to face the fact that, nationally, they will need the support of middle america and you don't get that by shitting on gun owners.

-Mike
I would agree except the democrats have doubled down on stupid and are trying to go even further left. They even elected several open socialists/communists yesterday.
 
Nothing is going to happen to this guy in this situation. The cops have called him a hero, TX AG has called him a hero, Gov. Abbot has called him a hero, NRA has called him a hero, President Trump has praised him.

Stephen Williford and Johnnie Langendorff are already lauded as heroes and perfect examples of people being in tune with what went down and being certain of what was going down before acting.
 
I would agree except the democrats have doubled down on stupid and are trying to go even further left. They even elected several open socialists/communists yesterday.

well they can't admit why Illary lost, so their approach is to communist even harder. This may not happen in other states by MA moonbats may step up letting their frustration out.
 
I'm not saying you are wrong, but do you understand how things in regards to police and prosecutors work in rural Texas?

I'm guessing that there's usually a lot of corruption and bullshit, but here we have a guy that just shot a terrorist more or less (one that JUST killed like 26 people) and didn't put anyone else in danger in the process of doing so; the PR ramifications of local .gov shitting on that guy would be too much for them to deal with.

-Mike
 
I'm guessing that there's usually a lot of corruption and bullshit, but here we have a guy that just shot a terrorist more or less (one that JUST killed like 26 people) and didn't put anyone else in danger in the process of doing so; the PR ramifications of local .gov shitting on that guy would be too much for them to deal with.

-Mike

+1
 
When will Americans get MAD enough to stand up and realize it's their RIGHT and RESPONSIBLE to PROTECT their family's Democratic party has blood on its hand that won't wash off
 
Yep

They seem to allow some truth out there, for instance we still don't know the round count by Paddock in Vegas, seems like a simple thing to count brass, but in Texas it was reported 450 rounds fired.

Trump had an interesting comment the other day in S. Korea when they were asking about "extreme vetting" for firearms purchasing, saying something to the effect we shouldn't talk about vegas incident. I found the comment interesting.
 
Sen: Warren wants to take away your right to protect your family! Look in your family's eye and tell you don't care about them anymore, because that's what you are saying when you support gun control. GO AHEAD LOOK IN THEIR EYE tell them you don't care
 
I am amazed at how many people of facebook are saying that rather than fight back in a situation like this you need to run away. That mother who gave her life to try to save her 4 kids (2 died by the POS) didn't run away.
If you run away while some dirtbag is shooting babies I hope you can live with yourself.

I was military during Vietnam and hope in a situation like this I would remember my training and experiences and my oath to protect that has no expiration date
 
Sen: Warren wants to take away your right to protect your family! Look in your family's eye and tell you don't care about them anymore, because that's what you are saying when you support gun control. GO AHEAD LOOK IN THEIR EYE tell them you don't care

Who exactly are you yelling at? Us? Seriously, you sound a little unhinged here.
 
Who exactly are you yelling at? Us? Seriously, you sound a little unhinged here.

A little?

There’s enough grammatically wrong with his posts here to write him off as “off the deep end”. Let alone content.
 
A little?

There’s enough grammatically wrong with his posts here to write him off as “off the deep end”. Let alone content.

Cut him some slack. It's alcohol plus syntax confusion. He's not yelling at us.
 
Again, some need to reread Lautenberg. Not every DV case automatically makes you a pp. It does if you had counsel or had a jury trial. I’m not sure that covers UCMJ panels, which aren’t quite the same as juries. That kind of distinction would need to be litigated, and I’m not sure it ever has been.

I also blame the civilian prosecutors who didn't bother to bring domestic violence charges in state courts for breaking his child's skull, etc.

The state should have lined up for a piece of him after the court martial, like the Airplane movie passengers lining up to smack some sense into the woman having a panic attack. It's not like double jeopardy applies.

The Air Force never entered his disciplinary record into the record. That's how he fell through the cracks.

wonder how many others they failed to enter.

I don't assume it was laziness or overwork on some clerk's part.

I won't be surprised if some base lawyer/officer didn't promulgate the process to register convictions in NCIC.

Heck, I fear it'll turn out that some pinhead erected a Jamie Gorelick-style firewall that deliberately kept convictions from being registered according to law. We are talking about the Obama administration, after all. I can just imagine some SJW complaining that NCIC registration of discharges for drug offenses, etc. were harshing employment prospects of discharged offenders, and that data entry should be stopped.

In a way. But NICS isn’t going anywhere. And the fact remains that it would have/should have worked in this case, if Airman Snuffy hadn’t been feeling lazy that day. I think we’ll get more mileage out of the argument that existing laws are enough, which they are. More than.

My concern? The dozens/scores/hundreds of other Court-martial convicts that have also slipped through various cracks, and who’ll be spending this week buying lots of guns with false 4473s because they now think they might pass NICS. And I’m sure many will, before the USAF IG figures out the fix.

Those guns will be in the wind forever. Love NICS or hate it, this is precisely the situation it exists to prevent. And it would, if everyone was doing their simple job.

You know how there's a dribble of folks who show up on NES law subforums to ask how they can work around their old DUI/DV/... FPP status?

Well, get set for a new stream of people reporting their renewal just got denied because the military has been frantically catching up on conviction data entry, and now NICS has a record of that 1960's post-boot camp bar fight broken up by the MPs, etc...

(I wonder what military offenses don't have a max sentence above a year?)

Church shooter escaped mental health facility after attacking wife

It's almost like the shooter was trying to set a new record for the number of paragraphs of 18 U.S.C. 922 (d) simultaneously violated.
 
I am amazed at how many people of facebook are saying that rather than fight back in a situation like this you need to run away. That mother who gave her life to try to save her 4 kids (2 died by the POS) didn't run away.
If you run away while some dirtbag is shooting babies I hope you can live with yourself.

I was military during Vietnam and hope in a situation like this I would remember my training and experiences and my oath to protect that has no expiration date

This is what society has indoctrinated in us and incentives us to do. Not surprised you would see that shit on Faceplant

"We don't encourage self help" to quote Marsha
 
It's not wiped . It's locked. And is is current police procedure to do that to preserve the evidence. You can also assume that if the guy had a cell phone the logs have been dumped and a scan of the cell tower locations is being done to track hi movements. Believe it or not it's much faster and more effective than sending a hundred LEO's knocking door to door asking "do you remember seeing this guy?"

Flashback on an old movie, Crocodile "That's not a knife. THIS is a knife!" Dundee.

Couple scenes sprinkled through the movie showing aborigines with cell phones, watches, etc.

Even rednecks have cell phones these days...
 
Since it turned out he used 30 rounders just wait for the cries to ban over 10 and in Mass to get rid of the grandfather clause
Already been filed in MA Linsey and fed house as well.

no chance to see the light of day on the fed level, but you people may want to get involved in MA.
 
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