Mass. Medical Society Meeting - Firearm Violence: Policy, Prevention,Public Health

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I just got an announcement on this: http://www.massmed.org/Continuing-Education-and-Events/Event-Information/?code=PHLF2016
I didn't know if someone in this group would be joining it and could help "enlighten" those that have MD in their name and "ignorance" as a title. Words like Waltham and seeing the context of the discussion is what concerns me most and shows that they aren't looking at this appropriately.
Click on the above link for the information.

[h=1]Event Information[/h]
Firearm Violence: Policy, Prevention, and Public Health
Meeting Type CME and Conferences -- Education
Date Tuesday, April 05, 2016
Time From 1:00 PM to 5:00 PM
Location MMS Headquarters at Waltham Woods
860 Winter St
Waltham, MA 02451
Description
12th Annual Public Health Leadership Forum - Firearm Violence: Policy, Prevention, & Public Health

Click here to view the forum agenda.

Gun violence in America has reached epidemic proportions. The number of deaths and injuries from firearms has generated a public health crisis throughout the nation in cities and small towns alike. Recently, President Obama announced executive actions in an effort to curb gun violence and deaths.
The 2016 Public Health Leadership Forum will convene health and legal professionals, policy leaders, and public health experts to provide the latest research and information on this complex issue including how we can reframe the debate about firearms in order to encourage comprehensive interventions and strategies that support gun violence prevention policies, research and programs.

Activity Objectives:
After participating in this activity, you should be able to:


  • Summarize the impact of firearm violence on individuals and communities
  • Identify the leading types of firearms violence in the United States
  • Give examples of areas of consensus in preventing gun violence
  • Discuss the role of public health strategies including prevention and education in combatting gun violence
  • Describe the benefits of communicating with patients and parents regarding firearm safety
  • Recognize the symptoms and/or personal histories that might indicate high risk for gun violence

AMA Credit Designation Statement:
The Massachusetts Medical Society designates this live activity for a maximum of 3.75 AMA PRA Category 1 Credits™. Physicians should claim only the credit commensurate with the extent of their participation in the activity.

Accreditation Statement:

The Massachusetts Medical Society is accredited by the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education to provide continuing medical education for physicians.

Registration Fee: Free



 
my favorite aspect of this garbage is how many of my socialists colleagues are surprised to learn their patients don't trust them.

meetings like this remind me that "when all is said and done, a lot more is said than done". there will be protectionist jaws blabbing all day long, and not jack squat accomplished.
 
Shootings in gun-free zones have reached epidemic proportions. Hmm, let's put our best minds together and figure out why that is . . .
 
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Doctors should remember it's not their jobs to prevent harm, it's their job to fix it after.

Just had a physical this morning. Was reading the paperwork they sent me home with and found this gem in their "General Health Recommendations": "In most cases, handgun owners would be safer with their guns removed from the home. Needless to say, conflict resolution should never include the use of firearms."
 
Not a good idea to ignore stuff like this. The anti-gun folks are beginning to focus on "Public Health" as a new route to gun control. Obama appointed a surgeon general who is a long-time dedicated gun control activist. Agencies can make rules without a vote of the legislature, and if they make up enough BS "studies" to fit the agenda, expect them to act on it.
 
Actually it's not a new route they've been trying this since the late 1980's at least.

Not a good idea to ignore stuff like this. The anti-gun folks are beginning to focus on "Public Health" as a new route to gun control. Obama appointed a surgeon general who is a long-time dedicated gun control activist. Agencies can make rules without a vote of the legislature, and if they make up enough BS "studies" to fit the agenda, expect them to act on it.
 
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should up with a news crew and a couple of signs "Doctor's errors kill 400,000 annually!!"

ask them what they think about that.

http://journals.lww.com/journalpati...idence_based_Estimate_of_Patient_Harms.2.aspx

totally stupid.

I did trauma surgery for years and someone has to try. practicing medicine is pretty hard actually. here is an idea genius, let's get rid of all the docs and nurses and there will be no mistakes. oh wait, who would you go to for that MRSA cellulitis that has settled in your mastoid process and began eroding bone making its way to your brain? just toss some bacitracin on it, you will be fine.
 
totally stupid.

I did trauma surgery for years and someone has to try. practicing medicine is pretty hard actually. here is an idea genius, let's get rid of all the docs and nurses and there will be no mistakes. oh wait, who would you go to for that MRSA cellulitis that has settled in your mastoid process and began eroding bone making its way to your brain? just toss some bacitracin on it, you will be fine.

People did just fine back in the good old days, when your barber could handle most stuff with a little blood letting and a few leeches. Go sell medical science somewhere else!
 
Largely hopeless. Like going to a Hillary rally to defend Trump. There was a great study that showed the more formal education people had, the more they misjudged data not favorable to their viewpoint. The medical community rejects almost all efforts to assess guns in a valid, evidence-driven manner as they reject almost all evidence not supporting gun control. Gunowners fall somewhere below pedophiles and psychopaths with these guys - they will treat them but shun us as evil by conscious choice.
 
If anyone goes to this meeting, DO NOT follow the google maps directions. Oh man you will regret it.
 
totally stupid.

I did trauma surgery for years and someone has to try. practicing medicine is pretty hard actually. here is an idea genius, let's get rid of all the docs and nurses and there will be no mistakes. oh wait, who would you go to for that MRSA cellulitis that has settled in your mastoid process and began eroding bone making its way to your brain? just toss some bacitracin on it, you will be fine.

don't like facts? The docs in question, are going after firearms, which kill 36,000 +/- annually....2/3 of which are suicides. They should redirect their interests to their colleagues, who are killing 10x the number of people that guns do.
 
Heart attacks due to fast food is an e room filling assembly line, prob, 100 times more then gsw's.

attempting to shut down cheeseburgers and fry joints should be higher on the agenda,

but I guess it's not a hot button pic issue as blaming guns for violence.

eta: the opioids abuse epidemic is wiping out the millennial gen, way more than guns
as ,well, not much noise from the med community , although these o.d. Patients fill the er on a daily basis.
 
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totally stupid.

I did trauma surgery for years and someone has to try. practicing medicine is pretty hard actually. here is an idea genius, let's get rid of all the docs and nurses and there will be no mistakes. oh wait, who would you go to for that MRSA cellulitis that has settled in your mastoid process and began eroding bone making its way to your brain? just toss some bacitracin on it, you will be fine.

I don't think oversensitivity on the part of clinicians ever resulted in patient safety improvements though.[wink]
 
Rare event. Maura Healy in the middle of a circle jerk.

Curse my imagination! [puke]

But on a serious note, talking to pro2A patients about firearms (with the anti2A slant) is going to breed distrust. These brainiacs meeting up today in Waltham are either too ignorant or have insufflated egos to consider a minimalist approach. Sometimes good medicine means leaving your patient alone. Not everything needs advice or "curing" especially if it's an American right.

Pamphlets or handouts about firearm safety on a table next to other medical/pharma pamphlets will do just fine.
 
don't like facts? The docs in question, are going after firearms, which kill 36,000 +/- annually....2/3 of which are suicides. They should redirect their interests to their colleagues, who are killing 10x the number of people that guns do.

You sound ignorant. You want to "go after" people like me that have the responsibility of doing things that may lead to mistakes. Lumbar punctures and other procedures. I used to do codman ICP monitors and ventriculostomies, which required inserting a tube through the brain parenchyma based on palpable skull landmarks. These are not without serious risks and if a death occurs, the alternative was doing nothing. We, as providers, don't kill people. We just happen to have a job where being human results in possible death as opposed to some failed O2 sensor or the boss upset the TPS reports were done wrong. Your argument is completely absurd.
 
People did just fine back in the good old days, when your barber could handle most stuff with a little blood letting and a few leeches. Go sell medical science somewhere else!

Sure, people did fine and lived into the ripe old age of 40 with rare exceptions. I question the IQ of some people here. "Me like guns. Me shoot. Go bang. The Govt. is spying on me. Get the tin foil. Oh, and modern medicine is useless. Get me some leeches to go with my TV dinner and Budweiser." LOL
 
Heart attacks due to fast food is an e room filling assembly line, prob, 100 times more then gsw's. attempting to shut down cheeseburgers and fry joints should be higher on the agenda, but I guess it's not a hot button pic issue as blaming guns for violence. eta: the opioids abuse epidemic is wiping out the millennial gen, way more than guns as ,well, not much noise from the med community , although these o.d. Patients fill the er on a daily basis.

I'd like to know just how much the fast food/ junk food industry contributes to Big Med to ensure their vested interests are not attacked with the same vigor. I'm sure if you could follow the money and the audit trail, you would be able to connect the dots. Obesity is the number 1 public health issue in this country and the related diseases and conditions associated with it. If physicians really wanted to do something then they need to take this segment head on. Easier and convenient to vilify and take on gun owners. The media and the left hate us anyway and everybody loves MacDonalds.
 
You sound ignorant. You want to "go after" people like me that have the responsibility of doing things that may lead to mistakes. Lumbar punctures and other procedures. I used to do codman ICP monitors and ventriculostomies, which required inserting a tube through the brain parenchyma based on palpable skull landmarks. These are not without serious risks and if a death occurs, the alternative was doing nothing. We, as providers, don't kill people. We just happen to have a job where being human results in possible death as opposed to some failed O2 sensor or the boss upset the TPS reports were done wrong. Your argument is completely absurd.

I disagree. The study states that "400K + die of Preventable Harm with serious harm 10-20 fold greater than that" That's not the same as being human, or conducting a procedure that comes with high risk. While I recognize that all medical procedures come with some element of risk, the study infers that people died as a direct result of Medical Error.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docum...ce-based-estimate-of.html#document/p1/a117333
 
I disagree. The study states that "400K + die of Preventable Harm with serious harm 10-20 fold greater than that" That's not the same as being human, or conducting a procedure that comes with high risk. While I recognize that all medical procedures come with some element of risk, the study infers that people died as a direct result of Medical Error.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docum...ce-based-estimate-of.html#document/p1/a117333

Then when you get sick, perhaps ill with a 104 temp and complicated diverticulitis resulting in an abscess needing surgical care due to rupture and secondary peritonitis, avoid the hospital because we are lethal, much more dangerous than guns and the Govt. Maybe that is a little exaggerated, but not to many here at NES.
 

then don't go to the hospital. don't see your doc. let me know how that works out for you. I assume you are healthy with a BMI in the non-overweight range with no medications or sleep apnea. I assume you don't smoke or drink or have a family history of any disease. I assume you have had routine bloodwork, including cholesterol. Never had surgery. etc. If not, you need to see us terribly lethal medical providers! :)
 
I'll keep on keepin on. These guys can have hissy fits if I happen to own a gun, I don't really care.

blah blah blah public health blah blah.


If my doc brings up guns, then I would like the same amount of time devoted to every other tool I may happen to own.

safety first
 
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Then when you get sick, perhaps ill with a 104 temp and complicated diverticulitis resulting in an abscess needing surgical care due to rupture and secondary peritonitis, avoid the hospital because we are lethal, much more dangerous than guns and the Govt. Maybe that is a little exaggerated, but not to many here at NES.

Nobody is saying Doctors are bad, medical care is bad only that they should probably get their own house in order rather than attempt to lecture us on a subject they know absolutely nothing about.
 
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