Mass Holes should be BANNED!!

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Ok well I finally picked up some snap caps for my .45 (should have done that a LONG time ago)

These weren't as high-end as some I've seen. I usally was looking at ones made of some metal (usally aluminum) with a sping cap for the "primer"

these are just made of what feels like vinyl. and they're BLAZE ORANGE.

I relized that the rounds that I usally shoot (Wolf ammo *Battleship Grey colored brass* and Federal Hydrashoks *silver colored brass*) I thought maybe the few times I tested my "Mass-Hole" Loaded Chamber Indicator on my S&W 1911 the reason why I couldn't see a round in the chamber was the contrast of the silver and grey with the SS of my chamber.

So now I have some Hunter's Orange .45 "dummies". I pop one into the chamber and I have a look.

I see blackness....

I turn on a bright overhead light:

At JUST the right angle I can see a spot of ornage....but my first few glances all I could see was Black.

For practical evlauation I would have assumed the chamber was empty (and assumed under a "Positive" examination)

A falce positive.

These things make guns MORE dangerous! Of course if the AG gets wind of this, he'd probably say the only hope is to Ban guns....rather than emphasising the simple tequnique to open the chamber and check...wich we ALL KNOW HOW TO DO because we had to take the safty training to own the gun in the first place.

I tell you if this state gets more full of shit they're going to start locking up Drunk-driver's cars when they kill people and let the drunk go about his inebrated buisness.....

Grrrrrrr

-Weer'd Beard (Man didn't think I'd get that steamed)
 
Is your loaded chamber indicator a witness hole or lever type. On a couple of my pistols the loaded chamber indicator (lever type) isn't moved significantly with the plastic dummy rounds, the aluminum snap caps are a little better. I think the plastic rounds are either softer (gives against the spring) or are slightly undersized. A witness hole shouldn't make any difference though.

I'll agree about just doing a positive check as well, open the action or do a press check.

CD
 
yep, and mine is one of the eirlier ones so it's a more narrow slot than the current S&W1911 wich is a more rounded hole.

I agree the ones that involve a protruding peice (often brightly colored) is FAR less dangerous.

I just didn't know the term "Witness Hole" I've always called thos "Ma**h***s" for obvious reasons.

-Weer'd Beard
 
Weer'd Beard said:
I tell you if this state gets more full of shit they're going to start locking up Drunk-driver's cars when they kill people and let the drunk go about his inebrated buisness....
Or give them a Senate seat.

I wouldn't ever expect a non-gun person to understand how useless a "Ma**h***" is since ALL guns are to be treated as loaded all the time anyway.
 
BigWarden said:
Weer'd Beard said:
I tell you if this state gets more full of shit they're going to start locking up Drunk-driver's cars when they kill people and let the drunk go about his inebrated buisness....
Or give them a Senate seat.

I wouldn't ever expect a non-gun person to understand how useless a "Ma**h***" is since ALL guns are to be treated as loaded all the time anyway.

[lol] [lol] [lol] [lol]

Ain't that the friggin truth!

Actully all the people who I've showed it too get it pretty easy. You just NEED to show them the whole process. Load a bright colored snap cap and ask them if they can see it easily.

then hold the gun and tilt the gun around while you try to find a good angle to see into the chamber and tell them to watch your muzzle.

They'll see that you're gonna tilt the muzzle ALL OVER the place while you try to get the light and angle right. I've said that GFW often don't care much about muzzle etiquette when they're holding a gun....but they do care when YOU have the gun.

-Weer'd Beard
 
Carefull what you ask for!!

The AG just might agree and decide that all guns sold here must have no holes... including the muzzle!!! [shock]

Matt
 
matt said:
Carefull what you ask for!!

The AG just might agree and decide that all guns sold here must have no holes... including the muzzle!!! [shock]

Matt

Yeah I know I mentioned that in my first post.

Frankly I would never mention this rant around any Massachusettes (or Anit-gun for that matter) law maker, because the results would not be favorable for the safty of the people.

-Weer'd
 
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