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Renewed my Mass DL today. She said $65 please. Seems I remember paying $50 the last time. She said the MC is extra. She said that I could remove the MC but there would be a charge to do that. So you have to pay to have something and have to pay again to not have something. Wonderful. Jack.
 

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Definitely a rigged game.
But I'll keep mine also.

Yeah, it's like home cable service would cost more if you don't want to keep the landline. :confused::confused:
 

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I'm really starting to completely hate this state
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A couple years back I cancelled my verizon land line and had the number shifted to a cell phone. That saved me 25$ a month. I then realized that verizon charges close to 40$ to cancel a land line. F*$!ers!
 

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It's infuriating that they charge $15 to maintain an extra character on the piece of plastic.

I can understand why they'd charge something to *add* something, it takes more than zero work. But to keep it there is absolutely nuts.
 

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The real question is why should we be required to renew drivers license and car registrations at all?

Before you get there we should be asking why you need a license to drive, registration, or safety inspection? Your insurance company can require those things but the government should not. If the government wants to require insurance to protect the public that seems reasonable. The only reason for these programs is to steal from you and employ people who are mostly unemployable and should be unemployed.
 

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Pretty soon MA is going to hit you with a tax for moving out of state much like the US does when you give up your citizenship.
 

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I have my MC license and haven't ridden or owned since 2000. Keeping it because it's easier to pay to keep it, than to get it again from scratch if I ever decide to ride again.
I got mine in my early/mid 20's. The road test was scheduled along with the flock of (to my aged eyes) little kids trying for their first drivers license. So I'm doing figure eights and circles (I was the only MC) with a bunch of kids watching. It was unnerving. The DMV waved me off after the figure 8 and said you're fine, go around the building and pull in. Which I did. Fortunately I was on the opposite side of the building when the gas ran out. I'd forgotten to open the petcock. I restarted in motion and he never knew.
 

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Pretty soon MA is going to hit you with a tax for moving out of state much like the US does when you give up your citizenship.
You dont need to give up your citizenship. They already tax you if you go work in another country.

You would think that instead of taxing you, they would encourage you to send your money to a U.S bank account and invest here while you work overseas... but NO. You don't use any services while overseas, we dont care, we will nail you for the difference in taxes, so you better go work somewhere with higher taxes.
 

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I have my MC license and haven't ridden or owned since 2000. Keeping it because it's easier to pay to keep it, than to get it again from scratch if I ever decide to ride again.
I got my MC license in 2005. And I've never ridden a bike again since the training class, which was free, which was the only reason I did it. [rofl]
 

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The real question is why should we be required to renew drivers license and car registrations at all?

Before you get there we should be asking why you need a license to drive, registration, or safety inspection? Your insurance company can require those things but the government should not. If the government wants to require insurance to protect the public that seems reasonable. The only reason for these programs is to steal from you and employ people who are mostly unemployable and should be unemployed.
Well, I can see your point. But it isn't THAT simple.

Inspections are for 2 reasons: Emissions and safety. It limits the morons with one or no headlights or a non-working blinkers on the road. MA COULD go every-2 years like many jurisdictions (because emissions is every 2 years anyhow), but that would interfere with the $ train. Safety is nice, but it's a ruse to collect more $. I mean, even EBF Missouri has bi-annual safety inspections.

Registrations should be for life, but the state REQUIRES insurance, so they needed you to re-prove ins so they make you re-up the reg. Of course, in 2019, their computers know if you don't have ins. anymore so that's moot. Reg should be for life. Or a reasonably-long period of time. Like 5 or 10 years.

License - I guess making you take an eye exam every 10 years is a good thing. And a new pic helps every 10 yrs as well. But that interim 5 year lic - not a clue. It's something EVERYONE renews online just to shut them up, using their old pic. That 10th year, being forced back to the RMV - torture.


I think the "best" answer is somewhere between our current system and "no" system. The "state" has some duty to protect the rest of the public from you. But the "protection" we pay for in MA is on the lines of the protection you'd pay Louie and Vinny for. LOL
 

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Well, I can see your point. But it isn't THAT simple.

Inspections are for 2 reasons: Emissions and safety. It limits the morons with one or no headlights or a non-working blinkers on the road. MA COULD go every-2 years like many jurisdictions (because emissions is every 2 years anyhow), but that would interfere with the $ train. Safety is nice, but it's a ruse to collect more $. I mean, even EBF Missouri has bi-annual safety inspections.

Registrations should be for life, but the state REQUIRES insurance, so they needed you to re-prove ins so they make you re-up the reg. Of course, in 2019, their computers know if you don't have ins. anymore so that's moot. Reg should be for life. Or a reasonably-long period of time. Like 5 or 10 years.

License - I guess making you take an eye exam every 10 years is a good thing. And a new pic helps every 10 yrs as well. But that interim 5 year lic - not a clue. It's something EVERYONE renews online just to shut them up, using their old pic. That 10th year, being forced back to the RMV - torture.


I think the "best" answer is somewhere between our current system and "no" system. The "state" has some duty to protect the rest of the public from you. But the "protection" we pay for in MA is on the lines of the protection you'd pay Louie and Vinny for. LOL
The following states require annual auto inspections: Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, and West Virginia, plus Washington, DC

Are Vehicle Inspections Really About Safety? - Insurance News | The Zebra

Fewer than half the country requires inspections and show no significant improvement over states that do not.

Inspections are SOLELY for the purpose of generating revenue.

Two states require inspections only when sold and I'd actually be fine with that.

If your particular insurance company want's to pay for an inspection program of their own that's fine too. You can always find a different company.

Think about how long MOST people keep a car. 3 - 5 years. I'm an outlier. I keep it until it rusts into the ground.

MOST of the rolling stock in the state would therefore have had an inspection in the past say, 4 years (assuming inspections only upon a sale). If you have an accident caused by a wheel falling off, see about assigning fault at that time.
 
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I'm not suggesting we not have safety inspections or eye exams. I'm saying the only people that should care work for the people who will be paying out when you crash into a tree because you can't see past the end of your nose and your brakes are shot (MA inspections dont check brakes BTW)...Liberty Mutual should care, Marty Walsh should not!

Well, I can see your point. But it isn't THAT simple.

Inspections are for 2 reasons: Emissions and safety. It limits the morons with one or no headlights or a non-working blinkers on the road. MA COULD go every-2 years like many jurisdictions (because emissions is every 2 years anyhow), but that would interfere with the $ train. Safety is nice, but it's a ruse to collect more $. I mean, even EBF Missouri has bi-annual safety inspections.

Registrations should be for life, but the state REQUIRES insurance, so they needed you to re-prove ins so they make you re-up the reg. Of course, in 2019, their computers know if you don't have ins. anymore so that's moot. Reg should be for life. Or a reasonably-long period of time. Like 5 or 10 years.

License - I guess making you take an eye exam every 10 years is a good thing. And a new pic helps every 10 yrs as well. But that interim 5 year lic - not a clue. It's something EVERYONE renews online just to shut them up, using their old pic. That 10th year, being forced back to the RMV - torture.


I think the "best" answer is somewhere between our current system and "no" system. The "state" has some duty to protect the rest of the public from you. But the "protection" we pay for in MA is on the lines of the protection you'd pay Louie and Vinny for. LOL
 
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