MASS BILL proposed 36% tax on all gun and ammo sales

No, accepting those funds for conservation makes it mandatory that the land is kept open for public access and seasonal hunting otherwise it's a violation of federal law for misuse of funds.
Absolutely. They pave plenty of bike paths and rail trails with it. This closes it off to ATV's. Then the abutting landowners to the rail trail post it.

Its f***ing fabulous.
 
No, accepting those funds for conservation makes it mandatory that the land is kept open for public access and seasonal hunting otherwise it's a violation of federal law for misuse of funds.
What's on paper isn't what's in practice though.
They have blocked off access to thousand of acres of public land in my area.
Locked gates , dump trucks full of boulders. Then if you try and park on the street to get in , the local PD will tow your car.
All areas we used to hunt as kids and no way to get in now.
The Federal land on Plum Island took 3 million of taxpayers money to "Improve access" and eliminated 50% of the parking areas in the process . You can get to gate at 6:30 am and the "Lots full " sign is already out.
 
This tax will stop people from guns and ammo the same way the extra tax on tobacco products stopped people from smoking
 
The state will be excited to pass this crap until someone figures out they'll lose Pittman–Robertson Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Act funds.
How would it cost the state Pittman Robertson funds? It's paid by manufacturers and managed by the fed and is not even allocated to states based on sales of guns and ammo in each state.....its allocated based on land area and hunting licenses sold. It has absolutely nothing to do with guns and ammo sold per state.

1. It is paid by manufacturers, producers, and importers and applies to all commercial sales and imports, whether their purpose is hunting, sport shooting, or personal defense. This tax is handled by the Department of the Treasury, which turns the funds over to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS) for apportionments to states.

2. the trust fund is then divided in half with 50 percent apportioned to states based on the land area of the state in proportion to the total land area of the country. The remaining 50 percent is apportioned based on the number of individual paid hunting license holders in the state in proportion to the national total.
 
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This tax will stop people from guns and ammo the same way the extra tax on tobacco products stopped people from smoking

Me driving to my LGS to pickup a new Hipoint after this passes.

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There are no kitchen table FFL’s that’s why the mill existed
This isn’t entirely true. Exceptions exist, but not everyone knows about them. I personally know of a few exceptions to the rule.

Does anyone here know if they can actually do this? Is that why cigarettes are so ‘spensive in MA? Is it a state sales tax thing?

Plenty of spots to set up a tent or build an underground bunker here on my land in Kentucky…just saying.

If NES pools together the funds, I’d allow a doomsday bunker build where you can store all your ‘wares’ for the end times.
 
This tax will stop people from guns and ammo the same way the extra tax on tobacco products stopped people from smoking

All the data suggest that increases in tobacco taxes does reduce smoking.

Going to laugh if this gets the federal judiciary to shit can the "no sales across state lines" portion of the GCA 1968.

Given that we have NICS checks when buying a gun from a dealer, that portion should have gone away a long time ago.
 
This was sponsored by a dipsh*t who is literally under investigation for failing to pay taxes?

He also wants to go full Moon Island

Bill HD.363


SECTION 1. Section 131P of Chapter 140 of the General Laws is hereby amended by inserting after the word “curriculum” the following words:- Said curriculum must include a minimum of at least 5 hours of live discharge of firearms, rifles, and shotguns at a licensed gun club, including the discharge of at least 50 rounds of ammunition.

He is also back at it with the regular capacity magazine ban in Bill HD.357

A large capacity feeding device may be possessed, purchased, or imported by the following for official duty purposes: (1) police departments, the department of corrections, the department of criminal justice information services, the department of energy and environmental protection, or the military or naval forces of this state or of the United States; and (2) any person, firm, or corporation engaged in the business of manufacturing large capacity feeding devices in this state that manufactures, purchases, tests, or transports large capacity feeding devices in this state for sale within this state to persons specified in subdivision (1), or for sale outside this state.

I think he just files the same bills every year, prob been filing the same tax return since 1995.
 
it is odd why so low. in denmark, from what i recall, they made up a 200% tax on the price of any automobile purchase, so most folks happily drive bicycles and remain slim.
because government knows better what is good for you.
My mother and brother live in Denmark. Nothing that you hear from the American left about Denmark is true. Nothing at all.
 
Denmark and the bike culture has more to do with a large spike in pedestrian and child deaths during the 50s/60s when more families were buying cars that resulted in transportation design favoring the safety of pedestrians and cyclists in cities rather than doing the American thing of bulldozing cities to fit cars that will never fit and wondering why the cities post bulldozing suck and traffic still sucks. Outside of cities Denmark has excellent highways connecting things, they don't try to ram highways through densely settled areas.

US highway policy changed at the last minute in 1948 from an intention to build connecting highways that ringed cities (what Europe and most of the rest of the world did) to the disaster we got of plowing straight through them.
 
care to elaborate - we talked to locals a bit, but, it is always good to hear more.
The American left likes to paint an idyllic (to them) picture of Denmark as some "socialist" utopia that US should be aspiring to emulate, in their opinion. Denmark is not at all a socialist country, if we use the term "socialism" as it is defined in most encyclopedias and textbooks. The means of production are not "socially owned or controlled" in Denmark. On the contrary, if you look at components of the "index of economic freedom", which show you where a given country is located on the Capitalism vs Socialism sliding scale, Denmark is closer to the "Capitalism" side of the scale than US. This difference is even more striking if you compare Denmark to US states like California or New York. The assertion that Denmark is somehow a "Socialist" country is a straight-up lie. They are a market economy with less regulation and red tape than US in many cases. Denmark does have fairly high taxes, even by European standards. But, if you compare overall tax rate (how many cents out of every dollar you earn goes to taxes), in Denmark to high tax areas like California, the difference isn't all that dramatic. Danes are generally law abiding, so their spend on law enforcement and prisons is ridiculously small compared to ours. Given that they are a nation of 5.5 million, even if they contributed to NATO everything they got, it would be a drop in the bucket anyway. Their military spending is relatively small, simply because it wouldn't make a difference. They have fairly elaborate "social programs" and "safety nets", but they have been gradually reeling them in, after these programs almost bankrupted them. The same process is happening in Sweden. The Danish government pensions are very stingy compared to the US. You need to work for much longer than 10 years to be eligible for their version of SSI and it will be pro-rated based on how many years you worked and lived in Denmark. Additionally, if you live outside of Denmark for more than a certain number of days a year as a retiree, you become ineligible for government pension. Their government-funded healthcare leaves much to be desired. The lines are long and the quality of care isn't great. But, that's true of every government healthcare system, including the Veteran's Administration in the US.

Denmark consistently gets a #1 or #2 spot as the least corrupt country in the world. It's a big village of 5.5 million people, even if you embezzle you won't be able to do anything with the money. You can't hide it. Therefore, unlike California and New York, the tax kroner are not spent on some ridiculous leftist pet projects, but things like infrastructure and education. And by education I don't mean lining the pockets of corrupt teachers' union bureaucrats, but actually educating the people. Denmark has Europe's strictest gun laws, yet the difference in murder rates and suicide rates between them and Switzerland (Europe's most liberal gun laws) is statistically insignificant. Which implies that when guns are banned people find other means to get it done, and that crime and suicide rates are a function of the country's socioeconomic situation and not availability of guns or lack thereof.

Overall, Denmark is a small, rich, capitalist, mono-ethnic, mono-cultural European country. Danes are hard workers, slackers and criminals get no respect. Breaking the law is considered something to be ashamed of, not brag about. They have very low crime rate, low military spending and high taxes, but this money is spent well due to very low corruption. Additionally, the high tax rate is somewhat mitigated by more freedom to do business, with less red tape and regulation.

Contrary to what the left has been pandering, the US, being a diverse multi-ethnic and multi-cultural country of 320 million people, can learn exactly nothing from the experience of a tiny mono-ethnic and mono-cultural Denmark. Nothing that works for them would ever work for us.
 
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Denmark and the bike culture has more to do with a large spike in pedestrian and child deaths during the 50s/60s when more families were buying cars that resulted in transportation design favoring the safety of pedestrians and cyclists in cities rather than doing the American thing of bulldozing cities to fit cars that will never fit and wondering why the cities post bulldozing suck and traffic still sucks. Outside of cities Denmark has excellent highways connecting things, they don't try to ram highways through densely settled areas
Danish culture puts high value on perseverance. Danish climate is ill-suited for riding a bike for close to half a year, yet they do it. Riding a bike, against all odds, in miserable Scandinavian weather, is an artifact of Danish mentality. To be fair, their bike lanes in the cities are much safer than ours, because they are physically separated from the car lanes by curbs and other barriers.

Danish cities have grown organically for well over a thousand years and generally predate the discovery of the American continent by Europeans. No city planning and transportation recipes that work for Denmark would ever work for the US.
 
This isn’t entirely true. Exceptions exist, but not everyone knows about them. I personally know of a few exceptions to the rule.

Does anyone here know if they can actually do this? Is that why cigarettes are so ‘spensive in MA? Is it a state sales tax thing?

Plenty of spots to set up a tent or build an underground bunker here on my land in Kentucky…just saying.

If NES pools together the funds, I’d allow a doomsday bunker build where you can store all your ‘wares’ for the end times.
I'm all in for that. Problem is, getting from here to there after the SHTF. Otherwise, great idea
 
bike culture has more to do with a large spike in pedestrian and child deaths during the 50s/60s
dude, they ride bikes as they cannot afford the car. :) it was very distinctively explained when we talked to folks there.
The American left likes to paint an idyllic (to them) picture of Denmark as some "socialist" utopia that US should be aspiring to emulate, in their opinion. Denmark is not at all a socialist country, if we use the term "socialism" as it is defined in most encyclopedias and textbooks. The means of production are not "socially owned or controlled" in Denmark. On the contrary, if you look at components of the "index of economic freedom", which show you where a given country is located on the Capitalism vs Socialism sliding scale, Denmark is closer to the "Capitalism" side of the scale than US. This difference is even more striking if you compare Denmark to US states like California or New York. The assertion that Denmark is somehow a "Socialist" country is a straight-up lie. They are a market economy with less regulation and red tape than US in many cases. Denmark does have fairly high taxes, even by European standards. But, if you compare overall tax rate (how many cents out of every dollar you earn goes to taxes), in Denmark to high tax areas like California, the difference isn't all that dramatic. Danes are generally law abiding, so their spend on law enforcement and prisons is ridiculously small compared to ours. Given that they are a nation of 5.5 million, even if they contributed to NATO everything they got, it would be a drop in the bucket anyway. Their military spending is relatively small, simply because it wouldn't make a difference. They have fairly elaborate "social programs" and "safety nets", but they have been gradually reeling them in, after these programs almost bankrupted them. The same process is happening in Sweden. The Danish government pensions are very stingy compared to the US. You need to work for much longer than 10 years to be eligible for their version of SSI and it will be pro-rated based on how many years you worked and lived in Denmark. Additionally, if you live outside of Denmark for more than a certain number of days a year as a retiree, you become ineligible for government pension. Their government-funded healthcare leaves much to be desired. The lines are long and the quality of care isn't great. But, that's true of every government healthcare system, including the Veteran's Administration in the US.

Denmark consistently gets a #1 or #2 spot as the least corrupt country in the world. It's a big village of 5.5 million people, even if you embezzle you won't be able to do anything with the money. You can't hide it. Therefore, unlike California and New York, the tax kroner are not spent on some ridiculous leftist pet projects, but things like infrastructure and education. And by education I don't mean lining the pockets of corrupt teachers' union bureaucrats, but actually educating the people. Denmark has Europe's strictest gun laws, yet the difference in murder rates and suicide rates between them and Switzerland (Europe's most liberal gun laws) is statistically insignificant. Which implies that when guns are banned people find other means to get it done, and that crime and suicide rates are a function of the country's socioeconomic situation and not availability of guns or lack thereof.

Overall, Denmark is a small, rich, capitalist, mono-ethnic, mono-cultural European country. Danes are hard workers, slackers and criminals get no respect. Breaking the law is considered something to be ashamed of, not brag about. They have very low crime rate, low military spending and high taxes, but this money is spent well due to very low corruption. Additionally, the high tax rate is somewhat mitigated by more freedom to do business, with less red tape and regulation.

Contrary to what the left has been pandering, the US, being a diverse multi-ethnic and multi-cultural country of 320 million people, can learn exactly nothing from the experience of a tiny mono-ethnic and mono-cultural Denmark. Nothing that works for them would ever work for us.
we spent 2 days in Copenhagen and it was very nice.
my only remarks were sourced by what we talked about with people, and one of those was an older lady who rode her bycicle in the rain and found a shelter from the rain next to us at the bar at the pier, and we somehow started talking - she was not very fond of bicycles. :) but it was what she had to do.
 
dude, they ride bikes as they cannot afford the car. :) it was very distinctively explained when we talked to folks there.

we spent 2 days in Copenhagen and it was very nice.
my only remarks were sourced by what we talked about with people, and one of those was an older lady who rode her bycicle in the rain and found a shelter from the rain next to us at the bar at the pier, and we somehow started talking - she was not very fond of bicycles. :) but it was what she had to do.
That's like someone coming to America and talking to Reptile
 
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