Mass AR’s and HD4420

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Grab yourself a Ruger Ranch Mini14. Plenty of preban mags available. Convince yourself that it is just as good, and if it just sits in you safe - it is. Then go out shopping for a SKS and remember how these could be bought for less than $100 not terribly long ago.
That's an AW under the new bill too.

To @_KMB_
At the end of the day, you can buy or build an AR today and if the law passes have to turn it in sometime next year.

You can wait to see if the law passes and then make your decision, if the law doesn't pass you've lost two months of ownership, if the law does pass you saved yourself a grand or so along with the luxury of potentially being a felon, 2a advocate plaintiff, etc.

It doesn't sound like you're ready to own a AR if the law changes, so you may as well hold off and see if it does.
 
You’ll be rolling the dice either way. Here are your options:

1.) buy an existing rifle or build your own and make it compliant with current law as written. Spend as much, or as little as you want to accomplish this. Enjoy said rifle.

2.) don’t buy or build a rifle, save your money, see what happens with this bill.

If the bill doesn’t pass: enjoy your rifle until the next time a bill similar to this comes around and then we can all get anxious again

If the bill DOES pass, you’ve got 3 choices:

1.) sell your firearm to someone living in a free state. You’ll likely get less than half of whatever you invested into it since most of the buyers will know you don’t have much other choice, and because you pinned and welded items that they wouldn’t have had to do in their free state. This will be used against you in price negotiations. (Keep this part in mind when deciding how much to spend if you do indeed decide to buy/build something)

2.) turn your rifle into your local LEO office and be completely out of whatever amount of money you invested into it.

3.) choose not to comply. How you do so is up to you, some options are legal, some are not. Deal with any potential consequences you may, or may no, face.


I asked a similar question before and got my nuts handed to me. At the end of the day, all you need to remember are these two things:

1.) your choices are yours alone. Most of the people on here don’t actually have very good advice to offer one way or the other.

2.) I can absolutely promise you, hand to god, that not even one of the people on here that advises you to “not comply” will donate you even 1 dollar to your legal defense if you listen to them and get in trouble.

Best advice; contact a lawyer about what your options would be for storing your firearm out of state should the bill pass.
 
I have not bothered to read much about what queen Maura plans for her subjects. I will be out of here soon. Very soon ha ha ha.
 
Most threads here do go completely off topic and I proudly contribute to the "going off." Is this one off now?
I think I’ve gotten all I’m gonna get from this thread, so you can take over from here boss lmao.

Realistically thank you everyone who did provide some information on the topic, also thanks to those who just provided me with a good laugh at work. It’s all appreciated!
 
You’ll be rolling the dice either way. Here are your options:

1.) buy an existing rifle or build your own and make it compliant with current law as written. Spend as much, or as little as you want to accomplish this. Enjoy said rifle.

2.) don’t buy or build a rifle, save your money, see what happens with this bill.

If the bill doesn’t pass: enjoy your rifle until the next time a bill similar to this comes around and then we can all get anxious again

If the bill DOES pass, you’ve got 3 choices:

1.) sell your firearm to someone living in a free state. You’ll likely get less than half of whatever you invested into it since most of the buyers will know you don’t have much other choice, and because you pinned and welded items that they wouldn’t have had to do in their free state. This will be used against you in price negotiations. (Keep this part in mind when deciding how much to spend if you do indeed decide to buy/build something)

2.) turn your rifle into your local LEO office and be completely out of whatever amount of money you invested into it.

3.) choose not to comply. How you do so is up to you, some options are legal, some are not. Deal with any potential consequences you may, or may no, face.


I asked a similar question before and got my nuts handed to me. At the end of the day, all you need to remember are these two things:

1.) your choices are yours alone. Most of the people on here don’t actually have very good advice to offer one way or the other.

2.) I can absolutely promise you, hand to god, that not even one of the people on here that advises you to “not comply” will donate you even 1 dollar to your legal defense if you listen to them and get in trouble.

Best advice; contact a lawyer about what your options would be for storing your firearm out of state should the bill pass.
Thank you for the honest and real response. I’ll continue to look into this, appreciate your help!
 
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

IMHO buy or build whatever you want. Fixed stock AR with 16+" barrel (or pinned/welded brake on e.g. 14.5" bbl bringing overall length to 16+"), and ten round mags, and you're good to go. That's what's legal NOW, and if that atrocity of a bill passes it will immediately be challenged, as these are guns "in common use" (see Heller) and protected.
 
Thank you for the insight. As far as building one yourself goes. Is buying a completed lower and completed upper a good option if I know shops that will do this? I know I have seen many post here explaining that many people do it, so I guess I’m answering my own question. Just don’t know if completed lowers are treated the same as stripped lowers I guess.
A stripped lower or complete lower from a local shop and a complete upper mail order is the easiest way to get an affordable AR platform.
As long as it is AWB compliant, you are good to go (discounting hd4420)

There is no legal difference between a stripped or completed lower - the receiver is federally regulated but is not considered a rifle by Mass until it is capable of firing.
 
As @kalash says it's all up to your risk tolerance
Low risk = spend the extra for a preban and don't care what happens with hd4420

High risk = 80%, bang out the third hole, 10.5" barrel with a Chinese fuel filter screwed on.
Lets Go GIF by Regal
 
Damn sorry I come off that way, but no I’m just young curious and uneducated trying to become educated. That might explain it though.
No need to apologize, I was also young and curious once. I mean, how do you know you won't like something if you don't try it.
 
Sigh...another day...another bored fed trying to bring down some closet dem from mass for unpinning his stock
 
To honor my brothers and sisters about to get f'd hard in Mass, I am going to my local gas station to buy another AR. Your welcome. 😁

Oh, and some thirty round mags which are hanging right next to the cigarettes.

I just got 2 cases of Federal 147gr 9mm Syntech and 500 rounds of Federal HST, shipped to my front door.

Next I'm going to the local gun shop to buy a bunch of std cap G19 mags for $30.
 
I just got 2 cases of Federal 147gr 9mm Syntech and 500 rounds of Federal HST, shipped to my front door.

Next I'm going to the local gun shop to buy a bunch of std cap G19 mags for $30.
I've been waiting to retire and this will make it happen!
 
I think I’ve gotten all I’m gonna get from this thread, so you can take over from here boss lmao.

Realistically thank you everyone who did provide some information on the topic, also thanks to those who just provided me with a good laugh at work. It’s all appreciated!
Give Maura a super extra nice wet kiss on her kitty for us.
You could be a cabinet member in no time.
 
We gotta be good at something!
It's actually pretty f***ing impressive.

Especially the total lack of self awareness with which people post "Go GREEN" to a new poster who's getting gang-fukked by stupid unhelpful paranoid low-brow short-dick misanthropic dirt shooters.

I do feel bad for the owner, though.

It's like having your bar taken over by drunken a**h***s.

They spend, and you've gotta pay your bills--but I can't imagine its what he envisioned creating.
 
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Best advice; contact a lawyer about what your options would be for storing your firearm out of state should the bill pass.
No lawyer needed.

It is 100% legal to drive your firearms across the NH border to a paid storage facility and store your firearms until such time as the bill is law and/or you decide to dispose of them or move out of MA.

Now. Transfer to another party requires an FFL, so don’t think about any clever variants on this plan that involve “buddies” in NH. Etc

IANAL
YMMV
You’re on your own
Don’t blame me
Do your own research
Blah blah blah
 
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