Mashpee man offers to trade children for heroin

rudiewhitebwoy · May 27, 2015

I saw this around noon, I figured somebody would've posted it by now.

I searched and searched, hope it's not a dupe.

Mashpee man offers to trade children for heroin

RHJJ · May 27, 2015

Heroin is a horrible drug it makes people do stupid crap, thankfully the kids ended up all right. He will end up in prison with no help for his addiction.

mustagt02 · May 27, 2015

As always the comments are epic.

Sniper (+) · May 27, 2015

no trade value, i'm sitting here patiently waiting for mine to turn 18 so i can load a box of food in their arms, smack them on the ass and push em out the door.. wtf would someone want to reset the countdown for?

rudiewhitebwoy · May 27, 2015

When I read the headline today, I had a 70's flashback.
This is what I imagined the perp was saying to the cops, Gimmie Drugs

JayMcB · May 27, 2015

think of all the SNAP benefits, obamaphones, housing and medical care you could get with those 2 kids...they're almost priceless!

71montess · May 27, 2015

RHJJ said:
Heroin is a horrible drug it makes people do stupid crap, thankfully the kids ended up all right. He will end up in prison with no help for his addiction.

I wish there was an alternative to prison, I think it's becoming a epidemic in Mass. and these young kids need help but H is a hard drug to kick and prison at least gets them away from it. Someone close to me was one of the few to stop and go one to be a productive person now. The courts have to let the experts in drug addiction in but in the end if they don't want to get clean it's on them.

jkelly1229 · May 27, 2015

The dude lacks serious vision idk about you guys but if I'm going to jail with the list of charges this guy is facing I'm asking for a kilo and I'm getting so damn high I'm not remembering the first 30 years of my sentance.

JayMcB · May 27, 2015

jkelly1229 said:
The dude lacks serious vision idk about you guys but if I'm going to jail with the list of charges this guy is facing I'm asking for a kilo and I'm getting so damn high I'm not remembering the first 30 years of my sentance.

he'll get off with probation and home confinement from some panty wearing (male) MA libtard judge when he promises to turn his life around

josh2600 · May 27, 2015

71montess said:
H is a hard drug to kick and prison at least gets them away from it.

You're joking right? Drugs are easier to score in prison than on the street. I know of an H addict that intentionally keeps himself locked up for that reason. Gets let out, knocks over the first convenient store he sees, gets sent back where "life is easy and full of dope".

71montess · May 27, 2015

There are drugs in prison but no where near as much as you think.

second · May 27, 2015

This country needs a Devils Island, send all the violent criminals and three time looser's there, never to be seen again.

GPP · May 27, 2015

jkelly1229 said:
The dude lacks serious vision idk about you guys but if I'm going to jail with the list of charges this guy is facing I'm asking for a kilo and I'm getting so damn high I'm not remembering the first 30 years of my sentance.

If it were up to me, Id give you the kilo, and wait till you OD and die. Win win.

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71montess said:
There are drugs in prison but no where near as much as you think.

Suboxone is the numero uno one from the intel we get.

JayMcB · May 27, 2015

GPP said:
If it were up to me, Id give you the kilo, and wait till you OD and die. Win win.

Why you're way too smart to ever be promoted

GPP · May 27, 2015

JayMcB said:
Why you're way too smart to ever be promoted

Exactly lol.

AntiHippie · May 27, 2015

Shame he went that far. If he was just a junkie, I'd fully support something [that we haven't figured out yet and I'm damned sure not smart enough to have the answer to] to address the addiction and not the victimless crime of gradually killing himself.

I'm a humanitarian. I'm all for addicts that need help getting help rather than getting crushed by the legal system, compounding their problems.

Now when it comes to incidental crimes - sorry homie - addict, alcoholic, Mormon, Pope of Rome, you steal - you kidnap - you rob - you pay full freight for your sins. Don't care if you only did it because you're an addict. You still did it, and need to pay for that. If we (the taxpayers) are paying to keep these dudes locked away anyways for such crimes, might as well address the addiction thing while they're there. Maybe that happens. I don't know. Only guys I know that work in prisons are CO's in the SHU at Pelican Bay - their 'guests' don't partake in any extracurricular activities. If we, as a society, intend to keep someone locked away for life, no need to waste money on rehabilitation. Makes more sense to just put them down, really. But if we're looking at releasing them when they've paid their debt, I DO believe there's some moral obligation to set them up for success to some extent. [That might read wrong. Too tired to edit.]

71montess · May 27, 2015

GPP said:
If it were up to me, Id give you the kilo, and wait till you OD and die. Win win.

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Suboxone is the numero uno one from the intel we get.

Yes, this one kid I know gets a doctor to give him way more than he needs, scams the Dr. but as you know, druggies are great liars.

drgrant · May 27, 2015

71montess said:
There are drugs in prison but no where near as much as you think.

GPP · May 28, 2015

71montess said:
Yes, this one kid I know gets a doctor to give him way more than he needs, scams the Dr. but as you know, druggies are great liars.

So more than likely hes trading or selling the suboxone for $$ or dope, extremely common. Im sure you know people that do the same with their adderoll too, very common. Its a problem thats never going to get better or go away.

71montess · May 28, 2015

Heroin users need to shoot up every day, my nephew couldn't keep doing it do you know better first hand ?

GPP · May 28, 2015

71montess said:
Heroin users need to shoot up every day, my nephew couldn't keep doing it do you know better first hand ?

Not sure what youre asking? How big/bad your habit is determines how often youd need to shoot up, also how ,long you can take dealing with withdrawl (dope sick like our friend in Mashpee). The suboxone is cheaper than dope, and keeps the boogeyman away till you get your next $40.

71montess · May 28, 2015

I'm not referring to your post, Degrants post laughing at how much drugs are in prisons. I'm familiar with Bridgewater and some of the jails . Wonder what he's knoledgeable with.

drgrant · May 28, 2015

71montess said:
I'm not referring to your post, Degrants post laughing at how much drugs are in prisons. I'm familiar with Bridgewater and some of the jails . Wonder what he's knoledgeable with.

The amount of drugs floating around in prisons borders on the absurd. If you believe otherwise I have a nice bridge to sell you.

-Mike

M1911 · May 28, 2015

71montess said:
I wish there was an alternative to prison, I think it's becoming a epidemic in Mass. and these young kids need help but H is a hard drug to kick and prison at least gets them away from it. Someone close to me was one of the few to stop and go one to be a productive person now.

1) No, it is "becoming" an epidemic in Mass. It became an epidemic in Mass several years back.

2) No, prison doesn't get someone away from drugs. I know a number of recovering addicts who have spent time in prison. They all told me that they could get drugs in prison (mostly pills). They are all now clean and sober, living productive lives and paying taxes.

3) Prison doesn't provide drug treatment. Drug treatment doesn't have a great success rate, but it at least tries to help them recover.

ridleyman · May 28, 2015

trading wife I understand, but kids?

45collector · May 28, 2015

I lived in Mashpee from '06 until last year. The drug problem in that town rivals that of Yarmouth and Hyannis. The Cape is not the same place it was when I was a teenager. It's really sad. An ex-girlfriend's only sibling died of an H overdose a few years back. I've actually lost count of how many people I've known since I was in HS who've died of some type of drug overdose. I find it hard to feel bad for these people because they made their own decisions, but I understand that opiates are extremely addictive. Young, impressionable kids try it once and they're f*cked.

As far as this kid goes, holding a knife to a toddler's throat, how do you come back from that rock-bottom low and become a productive member of the community? Even if he cleaned up and had years of soberness under his belt, I still wouldn't trust someone like that.

GlockJock · May 28, 2015

45collector said:
The drug problem in that town rivals that of Yarmouth and Hyannis. The Cape is not the same place it was when I was a teenager. It's really sad.

Nowhere is the same as it was when I was a teenager, and that wasn't really all that long ago, in the grand scheme of things..I'm only 51 for Christ sakes...things (towns, states, COUNTRIES) can really go downhill, and really fast...

AntiHippie · May 29, 2015

45collector said:
I lived in Mashpee from '06 until last year. The drug problem in that town rivals that of Yarmouth and Hyannis. The Cape is not the same place it was when I was a teenager. It's really sad. An ex-girlfriend's only sibling died of an H overdose a few years back. I've actually lost count of how many people I've known since I was in HS who've died of some type of drug overdose. I find it hard to feel bad for these people because they made their own decisions, but I understand that opiates are extremely addictive. Young, impressionable kids try it once and they're f*cked.

As far as this kid goes, holding a knife to a toddler's throat, how do you come back from that rock-bottom low and become a productive member of the community? Even if he cleaned up and had years of soberness under his belt, I still wouldn't trust someone like that.

Last time I was back home someone was telling me a few people we went to high school with have fallen to heroin. I didn't ask who because I didn't want to know. The ones I know of from those days that got mixed up in that surprised me. You're right, though - definitely not the same place it was even 4 years ago when I moved out west.

jkelly1229 · May 29, 2015

Yeah its a serious problem down there I feel like it has something to do with the mentality of the kids never wanting to leave the towns. The ones who leave do fine the ones who stay at home get hooked not a rule but being from there everyone I know who left did fine everyone who stayed is dead or on their way. And Idk much about it but I thought heroine was like 15 bucks a gram I thought it was very cheap that's why everyone on pills switched over after going broke from pills.

fortitude42 · May 29, 2015

drgrant said:
The amount of drugs floating around in prisons borders on the absurd. If you believe otherwise I have a nice bridge to sell you.

-Mike

I'll buy that bridge. Suboxone is easy to find, heroin and other drugs, not so much. It is way easier to score on the street, and at least in prisons there is more incentive to participate in substance abuse programs due to the amount of good time one can receive.

Now does this help addicts? IMHO, no it doesn't. Most want to be addicted, they want that next high. I believe the only worse substance than heroin is alcohol. However addicts of both display very similar behaviors. The difference is when they return to jail, the alcoholics detox period is far worse and life threatening than someone with a heroin addiction that gets dope sick.

Mashpee man offers to trade children for heroin

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