Man Reporting Crime Given Less Than 2 Seconds To Drop Gun Before Officer Shoots Him

[Bfatz]

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150511/PC16/150519878

 

[atilla]

guess he was testing the guy's reaction time.

wish it was all on tape, how the dude approached could have been a contributing factor... but i don't think he'd be dumb enough to walk up on the cops with his weapon raised.

homeboy was just too quick on the trigger. sucks.

 

[PreliatorX]

"Tyner and a backup deputy are both on paid leave."

Shoot the wrong guy, get paid vacation!

 

[Beretta92FS]

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[robjax]

Was the deputy ever informed that the homeowner had a gun as well? Did the homeowner tell the 911 operator that he too had a firearm?

To me, this one looks to just be a bad case of circumstances. We want the cops to respond quickly. I can't fault him for his reaction time because that is what we expect him to use to save his life while he is in the field.

This is just a case of bad circumstances. I don't think this cop was out to just shoot someone.

I'll wait for the findings but just bad circumstances.

 

[NHAtHeart]

Was the deputy ever informed that the homeowner had a gun as well? Did the homeowner tell the 911 operator that he too had a firearm?

To me, this one looks to just be a bad case of circumstances. We want the cops to respond quickly. I can't fault him for his reaction time because that is what we expect him to use to save his life while he is in the field.

This is just a case of bad circumstances. I don't think this cop was out to just shoot someone.

I'll wait for the findings but just bad circumstances.

And if one of us accidentally shot the LEO that was responding thinking he was the bad guy?

 

[robjax]

And if one of us accidentally shot the LEO that was responding thinking he was the bad guy?

I know...I agree with you. But if you call the cops you would be expecting to see cops. I didn't read where the cop was told the homeowner was also armed. Probably a good piece of information for the cop to have since they were called to the scene.

Didn't this happen in Shrewsbury a few years back. A guy was out of town and came home late tripped the alarm..police responded and he shot the cop in the dark or something?

 

[DispositionMatrix]

There is a lot to this case. It has not been established whether Heyward _might_ have inadvertently pointed the gun in the direction of the responding officers. Also, the eight minute response time doesn't look good. The larger issue is police procedure. Officer safety now taking priority over all else, training that teaches any armed non-police or dogs on a scene are a threat--things that resulted from the War on Drugs--need to be reassessed. The professor brings up these points:

To some experts, the footage shows the further need for an in-depth review to determine whether a different tactical approach could have prompted a different outcome for Heyward. His shooting is the latest of many nationwide in which critics have questioned whether police too quickly resort to deadly force against black men. The fatal shooting of one of those men, Walter Scott, was captured on a passerby’s cellphone video early last month in North Charleston.

Seth Stoughton, a University of South Carolina law professor and former police officer, said that ordering a possible suspect to show his hands when they’re already visible “isn’t a very good command.” But in high-stress situations, when time seems to be moving slowly, officers sometimes give orders that don’t get someone to do what they want, Stoughton said.

“A suspect, or an innocent victim like Mr. Heyward, might very well respond by holding their hands out toward the officer,” he said. “The officer may view that as a threatening gesture. ... Unfortunately, that means that officers are more likely to perceive it as resistance and respond accordingly.”

 

[ToddDubya]

dupe