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Man Committed to Mental Institution Decades Ago Can’t Be Blocked From Buying Gun

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In the first legal ruling of its type, a federal appeals court in Cincinnati on Thursday deemed unconstitutional a federal law that kept a Michigan man who was briefly committed to a mental institution decades ago from owning a gun.

A three-judge panel of the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously ruled that the federal ban on gun ownership for anyone who has been “adjudicated as a mental defective or who has been committed to a mental institution” violated the Second Amendment rights of Clifford Charles Tyler, a 73-year-old Hillsdale County man.

“The government’s interest in keeping firearms out of the hands of the mentally ill is not sufficiently related to depriving the mentally healthy, who had a distant episode of commitment, of their constitutional rights,” wrote Judge Danny Boggs, an appointee of President Ronald Reagan, for the panel.

Lucas McCarthy, Mr. Tyler’s lawyer, called the ruling “a forceful decision to protect Second Amendment rights,” and said he hoped it that it would have “a significant impact on the jurisprudence in the area of gun rights.”

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http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-app...939537?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird
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He was committed for emotional problems after a divorce and was in a facility for less than 1 month.
The law says you can apply for "relief from disabilities" if you were committed.
Ohio had no funding for that feature.
He will get his gun now.
 
Good news for sure. Maybe this case will stop MA chiefs from denying someone an LTC at age 50 that shoplifted a pack of gun when they were 10?
 
not if the guys from the "what kind of law do you want" thread have anything to say about it.

Right? Only muskets allowed, after extensive physical and mental examinations. "It's for the children" and "do you really need a fully automatic assault rifle to hunt deer?"
 
The MA courts ignore USSC rulings, they won't give this decision a second thought.

Doesn't matter much in Mass anyway.

All committed people need is a doctors note- if they were committed in Mass.

If they are federally prohibited they must get the record cleared in the state the committal occurred.
 
Doesn't matter much in Mass anyway.

All committed people need is a doctors note- if they were committed in Mass.

If they are federally prohibited they must get the record cleared in the state the committal occurred.

And in the end, the COP has final say.
 
not if the guys from the "what kind of law do you want" thread have anything to say about it.

Yep. There were a few posters in that thread calling for a restriction of firearms to anyone who may have a "mental illness." Extremely vague term and this thread is a perfect example about someone who fell victim to it.
 
If the guy is able to function in normal everyday society without harming others than I do not see what the issue is.

The issue was that neither the federal government nor the state of Michigan had a mechanism by which he could appeal for removal of his disability. Thus, he was effectively denied his rights under the Second Amendment because there was no route of appeal.

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Yep. There were a few posters in that thread calling for a restriction of firearms to anyone who may have a "mental illness." Extremely vague term and this thread is a perfect example about someone who fell victim to it.

That's what CA and NY are doing. They are confiscating firearms from people with some vague diagnosis, even if the commitment was voluntary. It will be at least a few more years before those cases make their way through the courts.
 
Should be applied to non violent crimes as well, imo. Kid steals a car at 19, straightens out and goes on to live a productive life, should be able to defend himself and his family.
 
This is just another good en banc circuit court opinion that pokes another hole into the government's scheme of prohibiting the possession of firearms. We had the 3rd circuit's opinion in Binderup and Saurez. The net effect is that it's (slowly) becoming easier for people to regain their rights.

And yes, in a state like Massachusetts where we have very broad classes of prohibited persons, this is very good.
 
It will all come crashing to an end if the Hillster gets elected and stacks SCOTUS. I don't now whether Trump will be helpful, but he cannot possibly be worse.
 
MA considers going to drunk rehab a voluntary commitment and bans possession and purchase. But since it is voluntary it is not a permanent ban if I have read thing correctly.

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