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MA State Police M&P 2.0 trade in guns available
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Garys
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I may be wrong, but I believe LAPD officers pay for their own firearms. Or maybe they have the option of buying something that meets the specs if they don't like the issued pistol. On the Smith & Wesson forum there is a LAPD officer who bought, qualified, and carries a S&W 4506, which is a full size all stainless semi automatic with a 5" barrel.
Up until a few years ago, there were officers still carrying revolvers although they were older and close to retiring.
As to the MSP pistols, it doesn't seem like more than a few years ago when they switched to these. I wonder why they are trading them so soon?
Up until a few years ago, there were officers still carrying revolvers although they were older and close to retiring.
As to the MSP pistols, it doesn't seem like more than a few years ago when they switched to these. I wonder why they are trading them so soon?
Garys
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A good number of agencies are moving back to .45ACP, especially from .40S&W.
While regular Boston PD officers carry Glocks in .40, Special Ops officers carry 1911s in .45.
While regular Boston PD officers carry Glocks in .40, Special Ops officers carry 1911s in .45.
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I appreciate the well written response. I was actually referring to another thread at the time about 44 guns that went missing at lapd
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My guess with the decision to switch to 45 is probably how smith got the contract by offering the mighty 45. Plus the deal was probably to good to turn down. And 45 appeals to a lot of egos. I'm pretty sure they were using sig 226 Daks in 40 before.
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We carried the ‘mid size’ M&P 45. I love guns and recoil therapy…. But it’s a terrible gun for cops with 230gr +P and shooting twice a year. I was glad to be rid of it as an instructor
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Kinda surprised MA does this tbh. I'd have figured they would offer to sell to LE and melt down whatever's left before theyd sell them to civilians.
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That doesn't sound like any mass department of anything... we could save the taxpayers money by using stuff we already have
The typical ma response would be hey we have all this extra ammo
Cool let's scrap 45 go with 40... destroy all the 45 then scrap the 40 and go with 45 again and buy more than we had before
Time for another look?
exempt from MA and US laws
I was just wondering what laws the MA police are exempt from that the rest of us are subject to. Anyone have any of these they could help out with? AG's rules will also do. I also know that they are not listed in town/city clerk's listings of residents, nor assessor's records.
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Highway patrols tend to like .40s&w and .45 ACP because of a higher frequency of needing to penetrate car bodies or laminated safety glass. One of the few instances where the slightly better penetration characteristics matter more than capacity now that modern pistol ammo has almost the same wound channel.
Same reason they liked .357 magnum when every other PD was still using .38 special.
Same reason they liked .357 magnum when every other PD was still using .38 special.
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Purchased and inventoried but never issued. Being dumped on the market instead of given to officers.
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Is the SIG the official sidearm and what caliber do we know?
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Is that really a thing?
I can't remember the last shootout i heard a car being in with cops
Is that real or one of those internet urban legends
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Well, Good to know S&W would dump a bunch of reject handguns on the public. If the problems were cosmetic or other non-safety related issues, fine.
If it is something that could get you killed...? A pox on the house of S&W.
Looks like moving to. At the time in July though. Mush has changed since then. The article was from July 21. But i just deleted my post as i see another poster above already posted the link. Thanks.
I think @OnTheRoad has good explanation above.
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I'm surprised they didn't require the MSP logo and nomenclature to be removed - like on the batch of former NJSP HK P7-M8s that were butchered by milling work to remove their engraved logo.
Just imaging the fun the police, prosecutors and press would have if you used one of these in self defense.
Just imaging the fun the police, prosecutors and press would have if you used one of these in self defense.
the problem MAY have been operator induced, like limp wristing a Glock.
There is nothing the factory can do about operator error, and the buying agency is going to place the blame on the manufacturer to save the ass of the person who recommended the purchase.
Remember we have to arm the whole department to the level of the worst shooter..... why did the FBI abandon 10mm?
I wish S&W had the stones to say "we are not allowing any distributor we have agreements with to sell ANY S&W product to ANY agency in MA"
Allegedly there were sight issues (mfg related) with the 2.0's and S&W would not make them right. 1.0's are still in circulation but over 10 years old now. I wouldn't be surprised to see SIG 9mms in the future...
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