SpaceCritter
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...which is even less useful, if that's at all possible.Hey, 2 in a row and you didn't use the words "stinky", "bike", "vitamin D", or "zinc"! ;-)
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MA shut down well into June???.....Wife’s work says so.
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Asaltweapon
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Nope. I’m getting a few laughs out of this however. The conformists don’t have the balls to ask is my observation to date.
Damn. Hendricks made me quote the wrong post. Sorry.
Mostly out of tradition.
"Overall, we found very few studies and identified no new trials for this latest update. We analysed a total of 2106 participants from the three studies we found. All three studies showed that wearing a face mask during surgery neither increases nor decreases the number of wound infections occurring after surgery. We conclude that there is no clear evidence that wearing disposable face masks affects the likelihood of wound infections developing after surgery."
Soundwave
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Again it depends on what you're trying to do. If you're protecting yourself n95 is effective if fitted properly. The other masks for the general public are of course catering to the lowest denominator but it's just like covering your mouth when you cough only better. It's really that simple. Yes of course you'll still have people not washing them etc etc but something is better than nothing. And then ofcourse there's overall morale. It makes you feel like youre doing something. I get that the media isnt helping with the hysterics but it is what it is.
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Mostly out of tradition.
"Overall, we found very few studies and identified no new trials for this latest update. We analysed a total of 2106 participants from the three studies we found. All three studies showed that wearing a face mask during surgery neither increases nor decreases the number of wound infections occurring after surgery. We conclude that there is no clear evidence that wearing disposable face masks affects the likelihood of wound infections developing after surgery."
Well I guess I stand corrected in the surgery room
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lol. It’s about outflow, not inflow
Mostly out of tradition.
"Overall, we found very few studies and identified no new trials for this latest update. We analysed a total of 2106 participants from the three studies we found. All three studies showed that wearing a face mask during surgery neither increases nor decreases the number of wound infections occurring after surgery. We conclude that there is no clear evidence that wearing disposable face masks affects the likelihood of wound infections developing after surgery."
Interesting. Maybe. Maybe not. One study 5 years ago. It seems if it had merit, we would have had more intel by now. But the cost of a 10c mask seems lower than a potential lawsuit if you decide to no longer mask your crew.
Hmmm.
Energizer
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With that f'ing blue paint that was worse than black ice when it was wet? Good riddance.
And I'd be driving or making my 10 yr old take the bus if they had to walk (or cross) that stretch of Oxford St.
PS - Julia Bancroft has been closed for 5 years. Your kids would be walking to the old Junior High now. Marginally safer as they'd only have to cross Oxford St once (at a much safer spot).
June 29th will be the first day when things could potentially start to look normal. All Day Cares are shut down until then. With no school, if parents have to go back to work, what do they do with the kids?
BTW, can't wait to go to St. Louis on Wednesday. I can get a haircut, eat at a restaurant, go to a bar.
BTW, can't wait to go to St. Louis on Wednesday. I can get a haircut, eat at a restaurant, go to a bar.
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Daycare and summer camps in limbo, serious problem. Bright side this will lead to more stay at home parents and less warehousing of kids. Coronachan has a lot of upsides.
Antibody studies in CA and NY are showing WAY more people got this than the tested numbers show: like 3-5X.
Cuomo said they were going to need 30,000 ventilators. NY peaked at 1,705.
This is Mass data from yesterday (credit where credit is due, MA daily reports are excellent). For healthy people under 65, death is a rarity.
HARRYM
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Maybe we should just hold the November 2020 election now and win, lose draw just get it over with and let the 99.7% of us get back to our lives. Because, believe it or not, that's all it would take.
All this has been is the perfect example of the SWAMP showing us we are nothing more than indentured servants.
All this has been is the perfect example of the SWAMP showing us we are nothing more than indentured servants.
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At 51, I'm liking that I'm still under the curve on this one. My folks? Not so much, obviously. (Math was my strong suit. LOL)
But I've got Shhh. . . tuff to do in this world.
By Czarlie's own graphs, our peak hospital utilization was 2-3 weeks ago. We are off by 25% at this point from the peak.
One other thought that someone else has probably already had about this and the elderly:
If this thing ran rampant through NH's and assisted livings and such, what's the rate-per-100K of people in those age groups NOT in facilities in the first place????? Is it possible this isn't so much an elderly killer as a sick-people killer???? I mean, older folks SHOULD have a higher incidence, but rate-per-100K is just MASSIVE. And over 60% of all deaths are LTC-related. So even assuming that ALL of the other deaths are from the over-80 squad, you're talking a death rate near half of what they are claiming. Just for that age class.
Knowing what we know now about taking care of these later-life-care places, I suspect if things "flare up" later this year the death rate will be SIGNIFICANTLY lower because these places will have procedures in place.
Last item - # of filled COVfefe beds in Morton Hospital this week - about half of what it was last week.
OPEN UP THE DAMNED STATE, CHAHHLIEEEEE!
But I've got Shhh. . . tuff to do in this world.
By Czarlie's own graphs, our peak hospital utilization was 2-3 weeks ago. We are off by 25% at this point from the peak.
One other thought that someone else has probably already had about this and the elderly:
If this thing ran rampant through NH's and assisted livings and such, what's the rate-per-100K of people in those age groups NOT in facilities in the first place????? Is it possible this isn't so much an elderly killer as a sick-people killer???? I mean, older folks SHOULD have a higher incidence, but rate-per-100K is just MASSIVE. And over 60% of all deaths are LTC-related. So even assuming that ALL of the other deaths are from the over-80 squad, you're talking a death rate near half of what they are claiming. Just for that age class.
Knowing what we know now about taking care of these later-life-care places, I suspect if things "flare up" later this year the death rate will be SIGNIFICANTLY lower because these places will have procedures in place.
Last item - # of filled COVfefe beds in Morton Hospital this week - about half of what it was last week.
OPEN UP THE DAMNED STATE, CHAHHLIEEEEE!
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MA seems to be flattening out. These are the numbers I personally rely on.
Fingers crossed!
- MA has been testing roughly 10K per day since early April. Percentage of those tested positive has been dropping since April 22: from a peak of 34% to 10% yesterday.
- Net hospitalizations have been decreasing since April 21.
- Daily deaths declining since April 22.
In the meantime, most of NH is doing pretty well, (although 30% more than VT and 108% more than ME in total cases) with fewer than 100 hospitalizations. While Nashua now has over 200 cases, Manchester is the hotspot.
4/13 report: 156
4/20 report: 272 - 74% increase
4/27 report: 405 - 49% increase
5/3 report: 529 - 31% increase
We can't draw any conclusions from the statistics. In NH people in LTC, a hospital, or a high risk group (medical staff and first responders) are getting tested. Outside of that you have to convince a phone jockey at the state triage line that you have the classic dry cough and high fever Wuflu symptoms to get a test. The real infection rate is unknown. With that the recovery and death rates are unknown. Recovery is a relative term since recovered currently means left the hospital alive, not back to pre-infection functioning.
That was on purpose. Sweden's Prime Minister said early on that thousands would die as a result of their approach. It was culturally acceptable there as sacrifice for the greater good. It would never fly here.
SpaceCritter
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It HAS flown here. Once again, nobody even remembers the 1968 Hong Kong Flu let alone 1957's Asian Flu. US death rate for the latter: 674/M. Present US death rate for the Wuhan bug: 263/M.
mothybee
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Hey. dogs and democrats love it.
Also, nobody has died from any other cause.
SpaceCritter
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But we have scads of evidence from other parts of the world. And other states in this country. We're seeing numbers drop even as things open.
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That along with pissed off people, will be what ends house arrest. States opening and no piles of bodies, or worse from the states perspective neighboring states opening and 'stealing' tax revenue from closed states.
It is eventually "flying" here, whether people want to actually grow a set of balls or not and actually f***ing admit it, is another story. Most of the NPCs would rather believe their handlers talking to them through the noise box about how serious it is and blah blah blah, so wah lah, etc. The rest of us know better- eg, that people will die, and all the lockdown has done is maybe flatten out the death rate over time.... and only so much can be done to stop it. The politicians are still playing in hand wringing land when its pretty obvious a lot of the public was never playing along to begin with
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Another perspective from MIT’s magazine.
www.technologyreview.com
Stop covid or save the economy? We can do both.
Contrary to what you’ve heard, shutting down the country is also the quickest way to get it started back up again
www.technologyreview.com
SpaceCritter
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Another perspective from MIT’s magazine.
Stop covid or save the economy? We can do both.
Contrary to what you’ve heard, shutting down the country is also the quickest way to get it started back up again
Again this is neither the first nor worst pandemic that has faced this country. In those cases, the sick were quarantined, the vulnerable (old and infirm this time, to which often young children and/or pregnant women would be added) protected. NOT randomly close various industry sectors for months, do the mask hokey-pokey, and ship virus patients into nursing homes.
A clownshow. With Fauci driving the little car.
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Laura
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I can't see him changing his mind with a rally. The man is a drama queen....
"Areas in the United States that do not adhere to any social distancing policies face 35 times more cases of the novel coronavirus, according to a study published Thursday in a peer-reviewed health-care journal.
....Holding the amount of voluntary social distancing constant, these results imply 10 times greater spread by April 27 without [shelter-in-place orders] … and more than 35 times greater spread without any of the four measures,” the researchers wrote in “Strong Social Distancing Measures in the United States Reduced the COVID-19 Growth Rate.”
SpaceCritter
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Worldometer says otherwise.
1) I thought they were supposed to test everybody.
2) Has anyone seen the movie "Midsommar" yet? It is about some weird Swedish stuff, one bit is of having old people jump off a cliff.
See also:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwD7f5ZWhAk
You going? Where does he even live, anyhow?
Looks like there might be company.
POSTPONED: Car Protest @ Governor Baker's Home, No Reopening Without Our Voices
This event has been POSTPONED to May 23. Governor Baker is promising to lift the stay at home advisory on Monday, even as COVID cases rise in MA. At 5,482 deaths as of May 14, our state has more fatalities than Canada. Meanwhile, Baker's 17-person "Re-opening Committee" has nine CEOS and only three
All I know, is SOMEONE should toilet paper his trees.
This is what they needed to keep the State shut down
abcnews.go.com
With over 200 possible cases, doctors warn reports of rare, coronavirus-linked child inflammatory illness likely to rise
220 confirmed or suspected cases of the rare coronavirus linked-illness are being investigated in 20 states and Washington D.C., according to a new ABC News survey.
abcnews.go.com
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