pdm
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You can buy all your wallet can stand. You can only sell 4 in face to face sales per calendar year.
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MA Handgun Compliance Q+A Thread (new)
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You can buy all your wallet can stand. You can only sell 4 in face to face sales per calendar year.
You can buy as many guns as you want, as long as your LTC is valid, whether it's from private sales or from a dealer.
The only restriction is on private sales- you can only sell 4/year on FA-10s via private sale. You can bypass this somewhat by using a dealer transfer when selling guns whenever possible, as those sales through a dealer do not count against your limit. I try to do this whenever I am selling an MA compliant handgun, or any rifle/shotgun, unless I know I'm not going to need them later in the year.
-Mike
pdm
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Stores can sell to out of state customers, where such firearms are legal for the dealer to sell.
Thanks guys now I can go shopping ,
wonder why i was told different by two officers from Fitchburg
wonder why i was told different by two officers from Fitchburg
namedpipes
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They could innocently believe what they said.
They could be actively misleading you in hopes you will sheepishly obey.
Or anything in between.
They could be actively misleading you in hopes you will sheepishly obey.
Or anything in between.
Thanks guys going to Blue Northern Trading this am to get three used guns
Have a nice day
Have a nice day
namedpipes
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Don't forget to show them off when you get home!
http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=799136#post799136
I have a question as a buyer... Do to some areas of MA completely dragging their feet on giving people Class A LTC's after they've met all the requirements, would someone, like Paratrooper, who has just moved in to the state have to wait until they recieve their Class A LTC to sell anyone of their firearms in a private sale to a Class A LTC holder?
Yes, FTF sales can only be between Licensed individuals. So no license means no sale/transfer.
i am new to the gun community and i am learning the ridiculous laws mass has for us. my question is what is the loophole to getting a non-compliant gun in mass that isnt an 11 year old gun.
i understand that you can buy them from a private party but not a dealer. so what private party can purchase a non-compliant gun if i can not? or is there a simple loophole which i can use to buy a new non-compliant myself?
i understand that you can buy them from a private party but not a dealer. so what private party can purchase a non-compliant gun if i can not? or is there a simple loophole which i can use to buy a new non-compliant myself?
Hi and welcome
There isn't any loophole. They only way you can purchase a handgun not approved by the AG is by purchase directly from another licensed gun owner here in MA. They only way a gun not approved by the AG can get INTO MA is if someone living in another state brings it here when he or she moves and then sells it to you. This is just the AG consumer protection regs. Any gun brought into MA must be legal per the MA AWB - i.e. none of the 'evil' AW features.
What gun are you looking to buy?
Apparently you didn't read the faq above.
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At least as far as the law is concerned, a dealer is not supposed to sell a LEO
an off list gun....
However, that being said, if a LEO did have one of these and was licensed, he could sell it to you FTF no problem. Be aware however, if this hypothetical LEO purchases a gun strictly for the purpose of reselling it to you, he may be committing a straw purchase (federal law) violation, which is a serious felony.
That's a different ball of wax that's really outside of the scope of this thread.
-Mike
oh, i didnt understand what LEO (law enforcement officer im guessing?) meant until now. i did read it, i just dont get a lot of the acronyms.. sorry.
a straw purchase from what i read is to attempt to hide the identity of the end purchaser. if the FA10 form was filled out completely when i bought it from the cop wouldnt that negate the idea of it being a straw purchase?
a straw purchase from what i read is to attempt to hide the identity of the end purchaser. if the FA10 form was filled out completely when i bought it from the cop wouldnt that negate the idea of it being a straw purchase?
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No. A straw purchase is the purchase of a gun with the intent to sell it to another individual who ordinarily would not be able to purchase the gun himself.
i.e. if the cop bought the gun for himself, decided he didn't like and and sold it - no straw purchase but IF he said 'hey Joe, I'll buy this Kimber and sell it to you' or if he decided to buy the Kimber with the intent of selling it at a mark-up to the public that IS a straw purchase.
The key is intent. This has been covered fairly extensivly in some other threads. Search 'straw purchase' and it should give you a lot more information.
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FWIW a straw purchase is actually "worse" than this, by the letter of the law. Under some circumstances, an otherwise innocuous purchase may be considered a straw buy by the ATF. The problem is that the law is not very "clean" in this regard. As you suggest, this topic is discussed
(at length) in numerous threads here.
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-Mike
pdm
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Other than the PPS, anyone notice anything new on the April 2009 roster?
i saw a dealer with a springfield xd at the wilmington show i was told that it was not mass complainant from someone elseis this gun mass complainant
FWIW a straw purchase is actually "worse" than this, by the letter of the law. Under some circumstances, an otherwise innocuous purchase may be considered a straw buy by the ATF. The problem is that the law is not very "clean" in this regard. As you suggest, this topic is discussed
(at length) in numerous threads here.
-Mike
Thanks Mike, I didn't mean to simplify. It's a dangerous situation for the seller and the buyer and a great illustration why being a gun owner in MA sucks some times.
thanks pmd
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or the person who sold it to you
Sparkey
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Thanks thats what I thought from all the reading of mass laws and all the reading I did here. But when I was asking for ammo at the gun store this afternoon (which I will leave unnammed ) the owner asked what I was shooting it thur so I told him and he went in to a rant on how it is illegal in Mass and If I was caught with it it would be big trouble. I love how some of these guys think they know everything.
