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Lyme Disease Article in The Atlantic magazine

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Reptile, Aug 15, 2019 at 6:44 PM.

  1. Reptile

    Reptile NES Member

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    Lyme Disease can be extremely serious and it can be chronic. Ex GF is from Oregon and the doctors there couldn't diagnose it. Referred her to psychologists and whatnot. She eventually diagnosed herself through internet research and moved to MA to get treatment. It wrecked her life, she had to quit her master's program and her job, move here on her own, find a cheap place in an awful neighborhood and live in poverty for a couple of years. Lots of time at doctors in Boston and NYC. Port in her chest for IV antibiotics. She pretty much wanted to die. Eventually she started getting better and that's when I met her. We dated for a year and she moved back to OR. The whole ordeal was about five years and she now has a pretty big financial hole to climb out of.
     
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    With all the hiking and outdoorsy stuff I do, it’s a miracle that I haven’t had a tick bite.

    My buddy recently hiked Mt Washington and a couple weeks later he was getting weird joint pains. Then he caught two large bulls-eye rashes on his back. His PCP gave him a 21-day course of doxycycline. Seems to be better now, but who knows what chronic ailments lie down the line.
     
  4. The5thDentist

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    That's a book, not an article.
    Started it. Seems good. Will have to come back to it.
     
  5. snax

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    I read it today on my various trips to the toilet.
    It is pretty long winded.
    I'd find it weird how so many doctors completely dismiss it.
     
  6. Reptile

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    I don’t think I ever read anything for an hour straight.

    Lyme is a big worry for me even though I’m not in the woods much.

    I hate laying in grass to zero my rifle in classes.

    I once got a tiny nymph tick like that but it was ok.

    Now I spray my training clothing with that anti tick chemical that starts with the letter P.

    So many people hike in Massachusetts. It’s a shock that more people don’t have Lyme.

    Recently a girl I know got it and her face was paralyzed. She was treated and I hope there are no lingering effects.

    I know people who have Lyme. Your average person won’t tell you unless it comes up in conversation.

    The big takeaway from the article is that Massachusetts has the best treatment. Also, even the worst cases can improve with proper diagnosis and treatment.

    One such treatment is very painful and sickening for a period of time. Ironically that means it’s working.
     
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    I read the article and didn't see it mentioned but I've been told that insurance won't cover treatment for the chronic type. Doctors have to follow medical protocols and base their diagnosis and treatments on established science. Veering away from that can be considered malpractice or fraud. It's also in the insurance companies' best interest to deny that chronic Lyme disease is real.
     
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    I don’t trust the Atlantic. Ive gotten Lyme a few times, luckily caught
    It early each time. Have an older neighbor who gets relapses that really f*** him up but he is mostly ok. I’m fine, but I’m in my 30s. Can’t keep me out of the woods.

    I know it’s tinfoil but I’m fairly certain .gov created the problem.
     
  9. 76Too

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    One of my worst fears...who knows though, I may already have it.

    As long as I don’t get eaten by multiple sharks while being watched by a bunch of tourists from NY and Quebec, i’m still doing ok.
     
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    I did not read the article. Have an Uncle who started getting real sick. At first they thought it was ALS. Tests came back negative. Then they thought he had lyme disease, so he goes to see a specialist. Turns out he has mercury poisoning. The specialist tells him that he believes the mercury poisoning may be related to lyme disease. This is where I got confused but the doctor was saying there is some links between lyme disease and mercury poisoning and fillings in teeth. Although every dentist in the world will dispute this
     
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    Scary stuff. I know of one woman who got it and couldn’t get rid of the awful symptoms. She ended up committing suicide because of it. My father in law has had it two or three times. The most recent was not Lyme but something that starts with A (cant remember what the medical term was but it was from a tick bite.) Damn near killed him. In fact doctors said if he waited one more day to come in he would have died. Organs began to shut down. Spent around two weeks in the hospital recovering. I saw him about a week after he got out of the hospital and I was stunned at the way he looked. A shell of the man I knew. Aged like twenty years. Was skinny and frail and needed a cane to walk. Blurred vision, memory loss. A hobbled old man he became. Awful shit.
     
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    Lyme is an issue if you dont check for ticks and let it suck your blood for an entire day.

    If you get a tick on you, you go home and find it 2 hrs after it got on you, you should be fine.
     
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    I've had Lyme Disease. Caught it fairly early after I started to feel extremely fatigued, I could barely put one foot in front of another. This fatigue was unlike anything I'd ever felt before.

    My doctor at the time gave me 14 days of doxy, silly biotch. I asked for more but she wouldn't budge. However, it seemed to do the trick though I can occasionally convince myself I have post-Lyme syndrome.
     
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    Yup, congress ordered an investigation at the pentagon to see if it was created as a bio weapon.
     
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    When I was a kid in the 70s we would get ticks on us all the time and no one ever got sick. Weird how Lyme pretty much showed up out of nowhere. My dad got it when they lived down the Cape but 2 weeks of antibiotics seemed to clear it up.
     
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    My understanding is that once you have Lyme disease, you have the titres for it and have it forever, its just whether you ever become symptomatic or not and how severe those symptoms are. ABX TX is for symptomatic relief. My son has it. Out of my three boys, the one who spent the least amount of time in the woods ended up getting it. Go figure.

    One day he came home from school and his knee was ballooned up. Talking cartoonish like. There was no pain, he didn't have an affected gait, no instability at all. I was worried about some kind of septic join somehow but he wasn't running a fever and aside from the profound swelling there was so S/S of infection.

    Took him to an urgent care clinic anyway, and they diagnosed him with a knee sprain? I wasn't comfortable with that but NSAIDS brought the swelling down a little, but two days later his other knee swelled up like the previous incident. Took him back to the Dr who approached it with a little more concern and drew a Lyme titre, and thats what it was. 14d regimen of Doxy cleared him up. Hes been asymptomatic for the past 6 years aside from the occasional joint stiffness.

    I know another gal who has lyme though and it all but basically has wrecked her life much like some of the previous posters have mentioned.

    Im always in the woods and always pulling ticks from me. Almost daily before I go to bed my wife gives me the once over for ticks and its not uncommon for me to pull two to three off a week when the ticks are bad at various times of the year. Just out of curiosity I had my PCM draw labs for all three tick borne illnesses and all came up zero. Knock on wood.
     
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    I mean, I hated ticks BEFORE Lyme disease.

    I just don't go in teh woods anymore. Haven't since we got rid of the dog a decade or so ago. Skeeves me out to no end.

    I was meeting with a client a month or two ago with some chronic medical issues. "They can't figure it out." He's from CT. So I figure this is a stupid statement. "Tom, they checked you out for Lyme disease, right?"

    The look of shock on his face. WTF,O????? Not him nor 3 doctors in CT thought of testing for Lyme?????
     
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    Sadly, I don’t have much faith bureaucrats will blow the whistle on other .gov bureaucrats. National security and all.
     
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    I must be lucky. I got it, complete with the bull eye pattern right on my butt. Joint pain and minor lock jaw was next. A trip to the doctor got me that pink liquid they give kids with ear infections, ampicillin, and everything was better in two weeks.
     

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