Loophole

[one-eyed Jack]

Suppose that you live in a RED town in Mass and can't get the LTC unrestricted. Suppose that you rent a small cheap space in the GREEN town next to you. Suppose that you go into the computer repair business and get cards printed up. You now own a business in that GREEN town and might just get the LTC with no restrictions in that town. Just saying. Jack.

 

[StevieP]

That's not a loophole.

That's the way the law was written.

 

[one-eyed Jack]

That's not a loophole.

That's the way the law was written.

True, but we have to find ways to make it work in our favor. Jack.

 

[drgrant]

Suppose that you live in a RED town in Mass and can't get the LTC unrestricted. Suppose that you rent a small cheap space in the GREEN town next to you. Suppose that you go into the computer repair business and get cards printed up. You now own a business in that GREEN town and might just get the LTC with no restrictions in that town. Just saying. Jack.

This only works if the town your business is in issues "Business" LTCs. Some chiefs balk at doing this or refuse to do it at all. Most people are mum about this for obvious reasons.

The Business LTC wallhack can also be used to circumvent having to obtain a non resident LTC. Business LTCs can be issued to anyone regardless of whether or not they are an MA resident. So if you live in NH or RI or someplace but own a business in MA, you can obtain an LTC as a business owner in MA and dodge all the yearly CJIS renewal crap house. (Business LTC issues for 6 yrs, just like a normal one.)

-Mike

 

[Boghog1]

Another option is move out of the state

 

[ColdDayInHell]

Another option is move out of the state

 

[ProGun]

Another option is move out of the state

True, but still an issue if they want to carry in MA. When we do move, I'll need to go to Chelsea

 

[Boghog1]

True, but still an issue if they want to carry in MA. When we do move, I'll need to go to Chelsea

Just avoid MA and if you have to go well....

 

[one-eyed Jack]

This only works if the town your business is in issues "Business" LTCs. Some chiefs balk at doing this or refuse to do it at all. Most people are mum about this for obvious reasons.

The Business LTC wallhack can also be used to circumvent having to obtain a non resident LTC. Business LTCs can be issued to anyone regardless of whether or not they are an MA resident. So if you live in NH or RI or someplace but own a business in MA, you can obtain an LTC as a business owner in MA and dodge all the yearly CJIS renewal crap house. (Business LTC issues for 6 yrs, just like a normal one.)

-Mike

I've seen regular (not business) LTCs issued to business owners. The greener the town, the more likely that it will happen. The owner of the buildings that I manage lives in hell town (Boston) and got his unresticted LTC here in greentown, USA. No questions asked. I know it's not "automatic", but doable. Jack.

 

[ProGun]

Just avoid MA and if you have to go well....

Oh, believe me, I will. That said, all of my family is in Mass and I expect to need to be in MA at least once a week for business reasons. Otherwise I plan on breathing as much free air as possible!

 

[drgrant]

I've seen regular (not business) LTCs issued to business owners.

Well, technically, they are normal LTCs, but issued under a different section of law. I should have been more specific. Instead of "resident" the requirement for issuance is "business owner".

-Mike

 

[FalArAk]

I think your idea would be a lot more expensive than just hiring a lawyer...

 

[Mike-Mike]

Take it to the next step. Open a gun rights org in a green town and allow all the members to be "part owners".

 

[warwickben]

Take it to the next step. Open a gun rights org in a green town and allow all the members to be "part owners".

To bad this don't work for ffl's and nfa toys......
God I need to figure out how I can get / afford a FFl

 

[Rob Boudrie]

This only works if the town your business is in issues "Business" LTCs. Some chiefs balk at doing this or refuse to do it at all. Most people are mum about this for obvious reasons.

Some towns will issue "business" LTCs to residents of other towns only with permission from the chief in the town of residence, so as to not step on the territory of another PD.

I think your idea would be a lot more expensive than just hiring a lawyer...

"Just hiring a lawyer" does not always work. In fact, most "gun attorneys" will tell you that filing a case to have a restriction removed when facing a motivated adversary (think Brookline) is a waste of legal fees, particularly in the MA courts.

 

[JZ1018]

Once I became an instructor, Boston removed my restrictions.

 

[FrugalFannie]

Once I became an instructor, Boston removed my restrictions.

I know a Non-resident that instructed for years and had an LTC 0 no restrictions. last time he renewed they put restrictions:target&instructing on it

 

[one-eyed Jack]

To bad this don't work for ffl's and nfa toys......
God I need to figure out how I can get / afford a FFl

It's a lot easier than you think. Jack.

 

[warwickben]

It's a lot easier than you think. Jack.

I just need to figure out how to afford the space to rent since the town is being dicks about rezoning the barn/work shop etc .

 

[JayMcB]

.....the town is being dicks about rezoning the barn/work shop etc .

SHOCKER....

 

[warwickben]

SHOCKER....

I wish I could afford to rent a place but I help my family a lot so it would make things tight and not know when / if the FFl would pay for the space sing some thing I can afford monthly at this point .

 

[CrackPot]

I know a Non-resident that instructed for years and had an LTC 0 no restrictions. last time he renewed they put restrictions:target&instructing on it

Let me INSTRUCT you on how to carry...


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[skeetshooter]

Property group buy in Wyoming?

 

[NewGuyRay]

Property group buy in Wyoming?

How is "residency" determined in Wyoming? I know that if you own property in Idaho, you are considered to be a resident for the purpose of buying firearms on any day you are physically present in the state.