Local MA ordinances that bar FTF sales & CCW

[GSG]

This is a list of ordinances and bylaws in Mass. that outlaw activity that would normally be legal for a licensed gun owner otherwise. Many cities and towns have ordinances barring things such as carrying knives or discharging firearms, but this is for much less known violations.

Amesbury: No guns in cemetaries

237-4 General Cemetary Rules
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K. No firearms are allowed in the cemeteries unless by public safety personnel or authorized persons on military occasions.

237-7 Violations and Penalties
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A. Any person violating this chapter shall be liable to the City in the amount of $50 for the first violation and $100 for each subsequent violation. Fines shall be recovered by or on complaint before the District Court or by noncriminal disposition in accordance with MGL c. 40, § 21D and Chapter 1, Article I of this Code. Each day of violation shall constitute a separate offense. The Director of the Department of Public Works and his designees are authorized as enforcing persons for this purpose. Section 237-4M may be enforced by the Animal Control Officer.

Attleboro

Illegal to carry in many public areas (see list)

Revised Ordinances of the
City of Attleboro

Section 12-3.3 Prohibited Activities (amended 4/3/08)

Unless otherwise directed, organized, or permitted by the Commissioners, it shall be unlawful in the parks, commons, playgrounds, athletic fields, and outdoor recreation facilities of the City of Attleboro to:
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s. Carry or discharge any firearms, fireworks, rockets, or other explosive devices.
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Section 12-3.5 Penalty for Violations
Any person who disrupts any activity being held in a park, common, playground, athletic field, or recreation center shall be removed from the facility. A person who violates any provision of this ordinance shall be punished by a fine according to the following schedule:
a. First Offense: $150.00
b. Second offense and each offense thereafter, $300.00.
Such penalties shall be assessed in accordance with the provisions for the non-criminal disposition of violations kin General Laws Chapter 40, Section 21D, as amended.
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Section 16-20 Restricted Use of Orr's Pond and Manchester Reservoir
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16-20.6 No person shall build a fire, picnic, smoke, hunt, shoot or trap on these fishing grounds. No person shall in any way bring firearms of any nature on these fishing grounds.

Long list of off-limits places in that city.

Boston

No carry in City Hall, even with an LTC

21-1.1 Possession, Detection of Weapons in City Hall.

No person other than a sworn officer of the Commonwealth, a member of the military service on active duty, or a constable, officer or official of the City or County having a license to carry firearms shall in any part of City Hall have possession of any dangerous weapon, which term shall include any firearm, and any item described in paragraphs (b) or (c) of Section 10 of Chapter 269 of the General Laws, unless authorized by the Commissioner of Real Property or that Commissioner's designee. If the Commissioner shall determine public safety requires, a system for detection of weapons may be established in City Hall and no person shall be admitted to, or enter, the building without submitting to such detection system. Any person violating the provisions hereof shall be punished by a fine of two hundred ($200.00) dollars.

(Ord. 1992 c. 3 § 2)

Sale of replica firearms prohibited

City of Boston Municipal Code 16-5A says:

16-5A. Regulating the Sale and Marketing of
Replica Firearms in the City of Boston

16-5A.1. Definitions. As used herein, the following words shall have the following meanings:

a. Commissioner shall mean the Commissioner of the Boston Police Department or his designee.
b. Department shall mean the Boston Police Department.
c. Market shall mean to display for sale.
d. Replica firearm shall mean any toy, imitation, or facsimile pistol, revolver, shotgun, rifle, air rifle, B-B gun, pellet gun, machine gun or other similar simulated weapon which because of its color, size, shape or other characteristics, can reasonably be perceived to be a real firearm from which a shot or bullet can be fired and which, pursuant to Subsection 16-5A.4, has been determined to pose a threat to public safety.
e. Sell shall mean to exchange or deliver.
1. For money or its equivalent; or
2. As a promotion or an inducement to buy.

16-5A.2. Regulation.

Except as provided in Subsection 16-5A.3 herein, no person or entity shall sell or market any replica firearm in the City of Boston.

16-5A.3. Exceptions.

Notwithstanding the foregoing, the sale of replica firearms shall be permitted if the sale of such replica firearms is solely for purposes of or for transportation in intrastate, interstate or foreign commerce.

16-5A.4. Enforcement.

a. The Commissioner shall identify those replica firearms which he deems to pose a threat to public safety and shall make a list thereof. Such list shall include, where available, the following information: the product name, the manufacturer and the model number. The Commissioner shall post the list in the Department and shall make available copies thereof to the general public. The Commissioner shall update the list from time to time as he deems warranted. Any individual may provide information to the Commissioner regarding replica firearms to be added to the list.

b. Any person who observes the sale or marketing of a replica firearm which he believes to be a violation of this section may register a written or oral complaint with the Department. A Boston Police Officer, in response to each complaint, shall investigate the complaint forthwith in person and determine whether there is such a violation.

c. Any Boston Police Officer who observes the sale or marketing of a replica firearm which he believes to be a violation of this section shall investigate forthwith and determine whether there is such a violation.

d. If a Boston Police Officer determines that there is a violation of this section, he shall order the individual or entity to remove immediately from sale or marketing all the replica firearms found to be in violation. In addition, the Department shall impose the following penalties on the individual or entity violating the section:

1. A written citation or warning for the first violation;
2. A one hundred ($100.00) dollar fine for the second violation; and
3. A two hundred ($200.00) dollar fine for the second and any subsequent violations.

For purposes of penalties to be imposed under this section, if a Boston Police Officer determines that a sale or marketing of replica firearms has occurred, that determination shall constitute one violation, regardless of the number of replica firearms involved. A Boston Police Officer shall return, unannounced, to the site of the violation within the thirty (30) day period following the determination of a violation to ensure that the individual or entity has not resumed the sale or marketing of replica firearms.

16-5A.5. Appeal Procedure. Any individual who is aggrieved by an action taken by a Boston Police Officer under this section may, within ten (10) days of such action, file an appeal, in writing, to the Commissioner. After notice to such individual, the Commissioner shall hold a hearing, after which he shall issue a decision in which he affirms, annuls or modifies an action taken by a Boston Police Officer, giving his reasons therefor. The Commissioner shall send the decision to the individual by first class mail within ten (10) days after the hearing. The decision shall be a final administrative decision. The individual shall have thirty (30) days from the date of the written decision to seek judicial review in the Suffolk County Superior Court.

Notice that they're to return to the site of the violation unannounced to make sure you're not still engaging in this activity. I have no idea how that would be handled if the violation had occurred inside your home.

Boxborough

Illegal to carry on private land without owners express permission

HUNTING AND TRAPPING BYLAW
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Section 2.
No person shall carry a rifle, pistol, shotgun or other firearm, or a trap or traps on any private land within the Town of Boxborough without the express permission of the landowner, except a law enforcement officer in the discharge of his duties.
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Section 4.
Any person who violates any of the foregoing provisions shall be subject to a fine of twenty ($20.00) dollars, to be collected as provided in the General Laws.

It was written for hunting, but it's vague enough to outlaw any carry on private property without explicit permission to do so.

Cambridge

Cannot possess a toy gun on the street if it annoys anyone

9.16.080 - Toy pistols, slingshots and other weapons.
No person shall have in his possession a toy pistol, crotch, rubber sling or other device for throwing missiles of any kind, with intent to use it to the injury of persons or property, or to the annoyance or discomfort of any person, upon the street.
(Prior code § 13-17)

You can't make this stuff up...

Cannot sell replica firearms

9.16.090 - Replica firearms.
A. Definitions. As used in this section, the following words shall have the following meanings:
1."Chief" means the Chief of the Cambridge Police Department or his designee.
2."Department" means the Cambridge Police Department.
3."Market" means to display for sale.
4."Replica firearm" means any toy, imitation or facsimile pistol, revolver, shotgun, rifle, air rifle, B-B gun, pellet gun, machine gun or other similar simulated weapon which because of its color, size, shape or other characteristics, can reasonably be perceived to be a real firearm from which a shot or bullet can be fired and which, pursuant to subsection D of this section, has been determined to pose a threat to public safety.
5."Sell" means to exchange or deliver:
a.For money or its equivalent, or
b.As a promotion or an inducement to buy.
B.Regulation. Except as provided in subsection C of this section, no person or entity shall sell or market any replica firearm in the City.
C.Exceptions. Notwithstanding the foregoing, the sale of replica firearms shall be permitted if the sale of such replica firearms is solely for purposes of or for transportation in intrastate, interstate or foreign commerce.
D.Enforcement.
1.The Chief shall identify those replica firearms which he deems to pose a threat to public safety and shall make a list thereof. Such list shall include, where available, the following information: the product name, the manufacturer and the model number. The Chief shall post the list in the Department and shall make available copies thereof to the general public. The Chief shall update the list from time to time as he deems warranted. Any individual may provide information to the Chief regarding replica firearms to be added to the list.
2.Any person who observes the sale or marketing of a replica firearm which he believes to be a violation of this section may register a written or oral complaint with the Department. A Cambridge police officer, in response to each complaint, shall investigate the complaint forthwith in person and determine whether there is such a violation.
3.Any Cambridge police officer who observes the sale or marketing of a replica firearm which he believes to be a violation of this section shall investigate forthwith and determine whether there is such a violation.
4.If a Cambridge police officer determines that there is a violation of this section, he shall order the individual or entity to remove immediately from sale or marketing all the replica firearms found to be in violation. In addition, the Department shall impose the following penalties on the individual or entity violating this section:
a.A written citation or warning for the first violation;
b.A one hundred dollar fine for the second violation; and
c.A two hundred dollar fine for the third and any subsequent violations.
5.For purposes of penalties to be imposed under this section, if a Cambridge police officer determines that a sale or marketing of replica firearms has occurred, that determination shall constitute one violation, regardless of the number of replica firearms involved. A Cambridge police officer shall return, unannounced, to the site of the violation within the thirty day period following the determination of a violation to ensure that the individual or entity has not resumed the sale or marketing of replica firearms.
E.Appeal Procedure. Any individual who is aggrieved by an action taken by a Cambridge police officer under this section may, within ten days of such action, file an appeal, in writing, to the Chief. After notice to such individual, the Chief shall hold a hearing, after which he shall issue a decision in which he affirms, annuls or modifies an action taken by a Cambridge police officer, giving his reasons therefor. The Chief shall send the decision to the individual by first class mail within ten days after the hearing. The decision shall be a final administrative decision. The individual shall have thirty days from the date of the written decision to seek judicial review in the Third District Court of Eastern Middlesex County.

fairhaven

 

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Dalton

Cannot carry in many public areas in town (see list)

Dalton town parks

195-1

Applicability
In accordance with the provisions of Chapter 45 of the General Laws, these rules and regulations are hereby enacted and shall apply to all Town parks, playgrounds, beaches and recreational areas.

195-2

Prohibited activities and conduct.

Prohibited activites and conduct
It shall be unlawful for any person to commit the following:
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G.
To have possession of or discharge any firearms or fireworks, or to use, explode or cause to explode, any combustible or explosive composition or substance.

195-3 Exceptions by Permit

Exceptions to the foregoing rules and regulations may be obtained only through the issuance of a permit by the Select Board.

195-5 Violations and Penalties

Whoever shall violate any provision of this bylaw or fails to comply with any of its requirements shall upon conviction thereof be fined not more than $300 for each offense or be subject to noncriminal disposition of the offense pursuant to Chapter 1. If such violation is also a violation of a state law, the penalty for same shall be that which is provided in such state law.

You need special permission to be exempt from this law.

Cannot carry in cemetaries

701-1 applicability

For the mutual protection of lot holders and the cemeteries as a whole, the following rules and regulations have been adopted by the Dalton Cemetery Trustees as the Rules and Regulations of the Dalton Cemeteries, and all lot holders and visitors within the cemeteries, and all lots assigned shall be subject to the following rules and regulations, and any amendments or alterations as shall be adopted by the Cemetery Trustees from time to time.

701-3

A General rules.
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(12)
It is of the utmost importance that there be a quiet and calm atmosphere maintained in the cemeteries. Persons in a cemetery shall avoid unbecoming conduct, such as:
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(f)
Bringing a firearm there, except by a military escort participating in a burial service or attending a memorial service.

701-11 enforcement of rules

The Burial Agent, Superintendent, and Cemetery Trustees shall seek to enforce these Cemetery Rules and Regulations, and to exclude from the cemeteries any person violating them.

To save space I didn't copy every rule, but they put carrying a gun in the same category as all kinds of disruptive and offensive behavior.

Danvers

No guns on town-owned property

CHAPTER XXV Regulations Governing the Use of Town-Owned Land

Section 3. The following activities are expressly prohibited on all Town-owned land:
a) Trapping, hunting, shooting or the carrying of weapons or firearms (even if unloaded) that are not properly encased or covered, except by law enforcement officials and except on Town roads and ways.

Section 11. On all Town-owned property, violations of these regulations may be punishable by fines not to exceed $100.00 (M.G.L. Chapter 40, Section 21).

"Covered" does not seem to include CCW.

East Longmeadow

Cannot carry on private property without written permission of owner

8.110 Fine for Carrying Firearms
Any person, who, without the written permission of the owner, enters upon the improved or unimproved land of another while carrying firearms, shall be punished by a fine of one hundred dollars for each such offense. This by-law shall be enforced by police officers and may be administered under the provisions of Massachusetts General Laws, Chapter 40, Section 21D, the Non-Criminal Disposition Law. (Section 8.110 added May 1991)

It may have been written for hunting, but it's too broad to be limited to that.

 

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Lawrence: No guns in parks or playgrounds

12.24.050 - Firearms and fireworks.

No person shall, within any park or playground of the city, discharge or have possession of any firearm or make any fire, or discharge or set off any fireworks, except by written permission of the director of the department of public works.

(Ord. dated 8/17/99 § 12 (part); prior code § 21-4)

1.16.010 - General penalty.

Whoever violates a provision of any ordinance, whether of these ordinances or another hereafter enacted, shall, unless otherwise provided by law or ordinance, be liable to a penalty of not more than three hundred dollars ($300.00) for each offense.

Lowell: No FTF's at yard sales

City of Lowell Code of Ordinances 185-10 says:

Any display of merchandise for sale or barter at a residential location not otherwise regularly used or specifically designated for the sale or exchange of merchandise. For the purpose of this section, yard sales include similar events also known as "garage sales," "tailgate sales," "flea markets," "house sales" and "moving sales."
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(4) All items for sale at the event must originate from the home and may not include merchandise such as alcoholic beverages, firearms, fireworks, animals, or any other merchandise that requires proper licensing or authorization from state or local authorities.
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B. Violations and penalties. Any property owner and/or resident who fails to obtain a yard sale permit three days prior to the opening day of the yard sale, or otherwise violates this section, shall forfeit $50 for the first violation of this section, $100 for the second violation of this section, and $200 thereafter.
C. Enforcement. This yard sale § 185-10 shall be enforced by the City of Lowell Police Department, Building Inspectors, Health Inspectors, Trash Inspectors and any other personnel so authorized by the City.

Medford

Taxi drivers can't carry

Sec. 90-36. Public safety requirements.
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(d) A taxicab driver shall not be permitted to carry a firearm of any sort while in the performance of his duties while a licensed taxicab driver in the city.

Sec. 1-13. General penalty.
Any person who violates any provision of these Revised Ordinances or of any ordinance of the city, whether included in these Revised Ordinances or any hereafter enacted, whereby any act or thing is enjoined or prohibited or required, shall unless another penalty is provided, upon conviction, be liable for a penalty not exceeding $300.00 for each offense. This section shall not preclude the city from proceedings to restrain the violation of any provision of these Revised Ordinances or other ordinance of the city by injunction where such proceeding is more appropriate. Each day a violation continues shall constitute a separate offense.
(Rev. Ords. 1974, ch. 1, § 3; Ord. No. 420, 6-23-1981; Ord. No. 444, 11-16-1982)

An interesting side note, taxi drivers are also presumably required to check the license status of any passenger who they know to have a gun.

Sec. 90-66. Contagious disease and firearms.
No driver having charge of any taxicab shall knowingly receive or permit to be placed therein or convey in or upon the same any persons infected with any contagious disease and/or known to be carrying a firearm without authority.
(Ord. No. 577, § 35, 5-11-1993)

To further complicate this issue, they have no right to request one's license.

New Bedford: Illegal to carry in a church in some circumstances

Sec. 2-136 Bias Crime

(c) Ethnic or racial intimidation. No person shall by reason of any motive or intent relating to, or any antipathy, animosity, or hostility based upon the race, color, gender, religion, national origin, age, ancestry, sexual orientation, disability, handicap or health-related conditions of another individual or group of individuals:

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(13) Carry a firearm or other weapon of lethal use into any church, synagogue or other buildings, structure or place used for religious worship or other resligious purpose or within one hundred (100) yards of any school, education facility, community center, hospital or medical clinic owned or operated by a religious or sectarian group.

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(f) Penalty. Any person convicted of violation of paragraphs (b) or (c) of this section shall be punished by a fine of three hundred dollars ($300).

This law is worded way too vague for my liking.

Pittsfield: No courthouse carry

Sec. 14-21. Firearms and explosives in courthouses.

No person other than judges of the Massachusetts Trial Court, court employees, attorneys licensed to practice law in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, local, county, state and federal law enforcement officers and their agents, shall, in any building housing a courtroom of the Massachusetts Trial Court, possess a gun, firearm, ammunition, explosive or incendiary device.
(Ord. No. 682, § 1, 10-10-91; Ord. No. 777, § 1, 11-10-1994)

Notice it's not just courts, but any building that a court is in.

Plymouth: No carry in parks or beaches

§ 30-19. Hunting and Firearms.

No hunting or firearms are allowed within any park or beach except for properly licensed hunters on Town beaches during the migratory waterfowl open hunting season.

§ 30-22. Violations and penalties.

Unless otherwise specifically provided herein, any person who violates any provision
of this chapter shall be subject to the following penalties:
First offense $25.00
Second offense $50.00
Third and subsequent $100.00

No exception for licensed individuals who aren't hunting.

Springfield: Taxi driver's cannot carry guns

Springfield City Ordinance 5.28.050

5.28.050 Drivers not to smoke, carry firearms or have scanners.


A. No person driving a Taxicab or Livery Vehicle shall have in his possession a lighted cigarette, cigar or pipe at any time, with or without fares present.

B. No person driving a Taxicab or Livery Vehicle shall have in his possession a firearm, with or without fares present.

C. No person driving a Taxicab or Livery Vehicle shall have a scanner, either functional or nonfunctional, in said vehicle. If any Taxicab or Livery driver is found with a scanner in his possession, he shall be fined one hundred dollars ($100.00) for the first offense and shall be fined three hundred dollars ($300.00) and be suspended for six (6) months for a second or subsequent offense. (Prior code §23-5) (as amended 09/12/2007 and 04/30/2008)

Notice that this doesn't specify that it only applies to driver's licensed in that city, but any driver of such a vehicle. So if someone takes a taxi from another city to this one, the driver could be in violation.

Winthrop: No guns on town beaches

12.36.060 Throwing missiles--Possession or discharge of firearms or explosives--Fires.

No person in or upon any town beach shall throw any stone, ball or missile; or have possession of or discharge any destructive weapon, firearm, fireworks, torpedo or explosive; or make any fire except with the written approval of the chief engineer of the fire department as required by law.
(Prior code § 208-6)

12.40.130 Violation--Penalty.

A. Any person who violates any provision of this chapter or regulations or permits issued hereunder shall be punished by a fine of not more than three hundred dollars ($300.00). Each day or portion thereof during which a violation continues shall constitute a separate offense, and each provision of this chapter, regulations or permit violated shall constitute a separate offense.

B. In the alternative to criminal prosecution, the commission may elect to utilize the noncriminal disposition procedure set forth in MGL c. 40, § 21D.
(Prior code § 138-11)

Woburn

Constables can't carry guns

2-8A Appointment of Constables.

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10. No constable appointed by the City of Woburn shall carry on his person or be in
possession of any firearm while in the exercise and performance of the powers,
duties and responsibilities of the position of the constable for the City of Woburn.

11. Any constable found guilty of violating the provisions of Paragraph 10 shall be
punished by a fine of $250.00.

No guns in city parks

VIII. PARK AND RECREATION AREA USE REGULATIONS
12-41 Areas under control of recreation commission.

No person shall within any park or playground area throw any stone or missile;
or have possession of or discharge any destructive weapon, firearm, fireworks,
torpedo or explosive; or make a fire except by written consent of the recreation
commission...

K. Any person violating any of the foregoing subsections shall, for each offense,
be punished by a fine of not more than twenty dollars.

Worcester: No FTF sales whatsoever

Revised Ordinances of the City of Worcester Chapter 11 Section 9

9. Firearm Sales
(a) No person shall sell any firearm without a license issued by the chief of police pursuant to the provisions of G.L. c. 140, §122. The fee shall be twenty dollars per year. Such licenses shall be issued consistent with the provisions of G.L. c. 140, §§ 121 to 131I.

(b) The penalty for each violation of this section shall be three hundred dollars.

The license listed that exempts one from this law is a dealer license (i.e. FFL), not an LTC or FID.

 

[GSG]

This is NOT a complete list of ordinances, bylaws and local regulations such as this. I plan to update this thread periodically, but before carrying, selling or doing anything else with a gun, even if you have a license, check the local laws before proceeding. They can often be found right on the town or city website.

*Edited to add*

Aside from the generic "no discharge of firearms" or redundant "if carrying illegally in the 1st place our ordinance makes it more illegal-er" laws, if you know of any more examples similar to the ones I've listed let me know and I'll post them up. Mass. has no preemption law and 351 municipalities, so I'm positive there's more out there.

 

[Palladin]

What about them Packers yesterday??

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Mass. has no preemption law and 351 municipalities, so I'm positive there's more out there.

The concept in MA is not a "firearms pre-emption law" but "home rule petition". Certain types of local laws that occupy areas traditionally covered by state law must be approved by a home rule petition in the state legislature to be effective. For example, passage of the Boston AW ban took two steps - approval by the Boston City Council, followed by state approval of the city's home rule petition.

So, each of the above come with two questions.

1) Is the law in an area that does not require home rule approval?

2) For which of the laws have the cities or town listed obtained home rule approval from the MA legislature?

 

[P-14]

Don't worry about Boston City Hall. They have metal detectors at the entrance. No weapons allowed - just like the airport. Period.

Statehouse is the same way.

Chelsea City Hall is open to the public with no such restrictions, though.....

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Don't worry about Boston City Hall. They have metal detectors at the entrance. No weapons allowed - just like the airport. Period.

Quite different than the airport.

- Different charging level (minor municipal offense vs. federal charge)

- Even low level local LEOs are generally exempt from these state level bans. The airport is limited to the Feds, MSP, and "sub-federal" police who have been granted advance job need based access and given a one time pass code distributed to their agency through the LE teletype network.

- Many (but probably not all) state buildings will check a firearm for you while you visit.

 

[MisterHappy]

Don't worry about Boston City Hall. They have metal detectors at the entrance. No weapons allowed - just like the airport. Period.

Statehouse is the same way.

Chelsea City Hall is open to the public with no such restrictions, though.....

Re the statehouse: I've seen a school tour group directed around the metal detectors....so, like much in life, timing is everyting!

 

[GSG]

1) Is the law in an area that does not require home rule approval?

2) For which of the laws have the cities or town listed obtained home rule approval from the MA legislature?

Excellent questions.

Re the statehouse: I've seen a school tour group directed around the metal detectors....so, like much in life, timing is everyting!

 

[MaverickNH]

So when I finally DO get that 10th yearly non-res LTC-A(ALP) renewal, 4mo+ after they cashed my $100 USPS Money Order, I'm left to random whims and vaguaries as to where and when I can CCW without breaking laws?

F-ing amazing. The dimensions of screwed-up know no bounds in MA.

But thanks for the information. Wisht I could make a wallet card of MA silly gun laws, but it would take a forklift to carry my wallet.

 

[GSG]

So when I finally DO get that 10th yearly non-res LTC-A(ALP) renewal, 4mo+ after they cashed my $100 USPS Money Order, I'm left to random whims and vaguaries as to where and when I can CCW without breaking laws?

Basically. The good news is, none of these are statutory LTC DQ's. Such an arrest or prosecution could definitely play into "suitability" and get the gun you were carrying at the time sent off into the abyss, but at most the criminal penalty is a $300 fine. Some of them are as low as $20. That's why I suggest checking the local laws of any towns you plan to spend time in with guns in Mass.

 

[GSG]

Updated the list with more from Attleboro, Boxborough, Cambridge, Dalton, Danvers, and East Longmeadow. The laws in Boxborough and East Longmeadow would definitely make "no guns" signs legally binding. Some of those towns will have a huge list of no-no places due to the wording of their laws.

I found a few other local laws that I'm not posting for space reasons but that you can look up if you want...Barre and Concord will terminate town employees with unauthorized guns, Brookline has a similar "annoying person with a toy gun" law as Cambridge, and Cambridge has a law against kids with laser pointers that could affect young FID holders trying to buy or use laser sights there.

 

[blindfire]

How do you find these anyway? Is there an on-line resource you are using? If so, share please...

 

[Palladin]

No Boston cabbie carry either.

 

[Kevlar]

No Boston cabbie carry either.

Could you please provide a citation, as previously requested...

What regs? I am unaware of any law/regulation (other than company policy) prohibiting "delivery drivers and taxi drivers" from carrying.

I'm pretty sure there is a Boston ordinance which prevents cabbies from carrying.....I'm trying to find it..

I don't know of any such statute, regulation or city ordinance.

 

[GSG]

How do you find these anyway? Is there an on-line resource you are using? If so, share please...

Google-fu. I've been checking the local laws of every municipality in Mass. A handful don't have them online, some of them haven't been updated in a few years, and I haven't read them all yet, which is why I'm stressing that this isn't a complete list. If you have a town you want me to check or something you can PM me a request, but otherwise I'm just slogging through them for fun when I get bored.

A ton of towns have generic laws against dicharge or hunting in town, others have ordinances that mirror other MGL on the subject. I'm only posting the ones that will restrict many gun owners from buying, selling, carrying and so on more than the MGL's and CMR's already do.

Could you please provide a citation, as previously requested...



I don't know of any such statute, regulation or city ordinance.

I've heard of such an ordinance from other people as well, but I searched extensively and couldn't find any law for the city of Boston. The only thing I've found that's even slightly related is the DOJ report posted on Boston PD's website:

http://www.cityofboston.gov/Images_Documents/DOJ Taxi Robbery Prevention_tcm3-9926.pdf

33. Carrying a weapon. Many drivers carry something in
their cabs that can be used as a weapon in an attack, such
as a blunt instrument or spray. It is not known whether
potential offenders will try to avoid drivers who they think
may be carrying a weapon. The primary danger for drivers
carrying such weapons is that the weapons may be used
against them. In addition, it may not be legal for them to
carry these types of weapons in their cabs.

and a reference to a 1925 law:

http://www.cityofboston.gov/Images_Documents/100 Years City Council Revised_tcm3-15851.pdf

1925
• Allows jitney (buses) to work like tour vehicles
• City council gives $25,000 to cover Beach St. disaster
• The new research lab in Boston city hospital is funded
• Taxi cab employees are issued permits to carry firearms
• Telephone rates are regulated and installed

That's the only two things that I can find published on it. Now I'm not saying that it doesn't exist; heck, the Boston AWB isn't in the cities online version of their local laws. But given Boston's *ahem* unique interpretations of various firearms laws, I would not be at all surprised if driver's were told that it's illegal when obtaining a hack license, or made to sign a document that bars it somehow, with the penalty being the loss of thier license (and livelihood). If anyone here is a cab driver in Boston or has been one recently, I'd be interested to hear what they have to say on the subject, but I'd prefer that they PM me to keep this thread on track.

 

[Kevlar]

I searched extensively and couldn't find any law for the city of Boston.

The only thing I've found that's even slightly related is the DOJ report posted on Boston PD's website:

http://www.cityofboston.gov/Images_Documents/DOJ Taxi Robbery Prevention_tcm3-9926.pdf

That was the only thing I found, as well.

...the Boston AWB isn't in the cities online version of their local laws...

Because it's not a municipal ordinance.

I would not be at all surprised if driver's were told that it's illegal when obtaining a hack license, or made to sign a document that bars it somehow, with the penalty being the loss of thier license (and livelihood)...

I wouldn't either.

 

[GSG]

Because it's not a municipal ordinance.

It's authorized under a home rule petition, right? I was saying that their municipal code does list fees for AW licensing in Boston, but you need to search extensively to find the Boston AWB online.

 

[Len-2A Training]

It's authorized under a home rule petition, right? I was saying that their municipal code does list fees for AW licensing in Boston, but you need to search extensively to find the Boston AWB online.

It is posted here on NES. It takes some digging but it is here.

 

[Kevlar]

It's authorized under a home rule petition, right?

Yes, enacted by the Legislature (via home rule petition), not a municipal code enacted by the city council (via home rule authority), therefore it's not listed in the municipal code.

I was saying that their municipal code does list fees for AW licensing in Boston, but you need to search extensively to find the Boston AWB online.

Not at all. Google the controlling legislation (cited in that section), it's the first link.

 

[GSG]

It is posted here on NES. It takes some digging but it is here.

Not at all. Google the controlling legislation (cited in that section), it's the first link.

Allow me to re-phrase. For the average gun owner, it is very difficult to find it on your own if you don't already know that it exists. Many people have no idea that there's local firearms regulations in Mass. NES has spoiled us.

 

[Kevlar]

Allow me to re-phrase. For the average gun owner, it is very difficult to find it on your own if you don't already know that it exists. Many people have no idea that there's local firearms regulations in Mass. NES has spoiled us.

Sorry, I misunderstood. (It did strike me as odd, as I know your Google-fu is strong ).

I agree, especially with the bolded part.

 

[Len-2A Training]

I mis-understood what you were saying too.

You are right, I wasn't aware of any other city/town gun restrictions other than Boston.

 

[pyro451]

Don't forget, if you are visiting Boston as a tourist and want to see the USS Constitution, it is on an active military base and weapons are not allowed. There are metal detectors at the entrance.

They will not check weapons for you.

I made the mistake of carrying there and of course quietly informed the officer at the gate of my LTC-A and firearm when I saw the signs and metal detector. I asked if he could check my gun for me and he very politely declined. So, I got to sit on a bench outside while my family toured the ship. Lesson learned.

 

[DavidC77]

Very interseting work you have done here, thank you.

Just posting to refreash this link also.

 

[OfficerObie59]

Yes, enacted by the Legislature (via home rule petition), not a municipal code enacted by the city council (via home rule authority), therefore it's not listed in the municipal code.

It should be under session laws on the Legislatures site (the same site that has all the MGL's). Session laws are ordered by date of enactment, so if anyone happens to remember about when the Boston AWB was enacted, that should narrow the search considerably.