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I have a question for the for the folks residing in New Hampshire. Assuming you are a conservative, gun owning, hunting, fishing, skiing type family, is this the State to be in? My wife and I have taken a few trips now out to Montana and Idaho, and we would love to eventually end up out there (although we have to take some January and February trips to get a feel for real winter out there). However, my parents are still in very good health, and if they are unwilling to come with us, well I just can't get myself to leave them. Being a few hours away from them is manageable though, and I could probably drag them north if it only requires a drive in a car.

If I ever move from the Republic of Mass, I want to do it right. I want a small home (which I have now), but I want to own some acreage. I want to be able to hunt my own land. I also want to be close to skiing, which should not be a problem. I would love some good rivers that hold lots of trout, but that may be asking for too much; but you never know. Currently we ski Sunday River, almost every weekend in the winter. Northeastern NH, is actually pretty close to it.

Thanks Pete
 
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we need more Conservatives to counter the mass hole libs that are invading Southern NH and turning everything south of Concord into North Massachusetts.( really? the word mass hole, when typed together as one word gets censored on this forum? Ma**h***? )
 

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Lots of homes for sale up in NH that do have acreage. That doesn't mean that they will be easy for a commute or convenience to retail stores or such. Its always a compromise about something no matter where you make your home. I have 5 acres and have a larger river behind my house, plenty of wildlife walking through the yard, deer, turkey, woodcock, etc. however house is way off main road but neighbor's house is only 100' away. Falls under the 300' discharge of firearm or bow when hunting. He and I get along and he gave me permission to shoot, so that works out. Some neighbors might not be so kind!! If you do find a nice spread up here, you may want to go off your property to hunt and fish which you can do with appropriate licenses just to break up the same yearly events. Skip a year or two on your own property to hunt somewhere else to allow deer back into your area for later on. That is provided your acreage isn't to small. My 5 doesn't cut it, I would have been much happier if we had gotten many more acres but hey, you can't have everything on your list all at once. So it's that compromise again.
If you do get a larger spread you can always snowmobile, atv/utv your property during the year to manage it and enjoy it. It you get the smaller spread you'll make that work too. May also allow you to try other ski resorts in the area you choose.

Best of luck no matter how it works out for you.

We moved up from Ma. but in no way did we bring ANY Ma. Bullshit with us. We were ecstatic to finally get up into the free land and have never looked back. Appraiser is correct though, many retards are moving up here and trying to change the Live Free or Die state motto.
 

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we need more Conservatives to counter the mass hole libs that are invading Southern NH and turning everything south of Concord into North Massachusetts.( really? the word mass hole, when typed together as one word gets censored on this forum? Ma**h***? )

Check your map, it's the back country folk in NH that is blue:
https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/new-hampshire/
I'm sure Keene State, Plymouth State, and UNH may have something to do with the coloring.
Alot of towns with MA transplants, are actually RED.
https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/new-hampshire
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we need more Conservatives to counter the mass hole libs that are invading Southern NH and turning everything south of Concord into North Massachusetts.( really? the word mass hole, when typed together as one word gets censored on this forum? Ma**h***? )

Non-Mass-Hole Libs won lots of victories in the past few elections north of Concord. NH is like a normalized VT in a lot of ways. They vote D on a lot of social issues but have reasonable thoughts on taxation and guns. . . .usually.

To the OP - nowhere is safe. NO. WHERE! You will fight no matter where you go. Anyone who is looking to plant a flag somewhere where the liberals can't pull stupid stuff should look for a conservative dictatorship somewhere. But NH is a whole lot better than MA.
 

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I'm in Bedford, just west of MHT. People from north of Concord ask me when I'm going to move out of Northern MA to NH ;-) The former Chief of Police here, Bailey, said SoNH character really started changing in the mid-90s with MA resident migration, but that have started decades earlier.. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/08/13/upshot/where-people-in-each-state-were-born.html

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When I was out in Montana, I told a local that if I wasn't a NH resident, I'd be a MT resident. He said to stay home, MT doesn't need any more people, half tongue-in-cheek. Too many liberals moving in.
 

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I have a question for the for the folks residing in New Hampshire. Assuming you are a conservative, gun owning, hunting, fishing, skiing type family, is this the State to be in? My wife and I have taken a few trips now out to Montana and Idaho, and we would love to eventually end up out there (although we have to take some January and February trips to get a feel for real winter out there). However, my parents are still in very good health, and if they are unwilling to come with us, well I just can't get myself to leave them. Being a few hours away from them is manageable though, and I could probably drag them north if it only requires a drive in a car.

If I ever move from the Republic of Mass, I want to do it right. I want a small home (which I have now), but I want to own some acreage. I want to be able to hunt my own land. I also want to be close to skiing, which should not be a problem. I would love some good rivers that hold lots of trout, but that may be asking for too much; but you never know. Currently we ski Sunday River, almost every weekend in the winter. Northwestern NH, is actually pretty close to it.

Thanks Pete

I have most of that and I don't live anywhere particularly far away from convenience. I don't know what "acreage" means to you, but if you hunt around you can buy less land and if it abuts conservation land or state/national forests or parks it's almost like you get more for free. I live in a pretty central area of the state and don't ski, but I could be skiing in less then an hour or be on the beach in the same amount of time.

Don't worry about liberalism taking over NH, it is going to take over everywhere, that is just human nature in 2017. The best you can do is show up here, leave MA and all of it's nonsense in your rear view, get active locally, make every town meeting and vote on every issue you can, and enjoy a freer life while you and your family are alive to do so. There is no such thing as "Free America" so forget that fantasy, but I can argue that NH is good enough on the issues I care about while still being able to attend to regional family affairs.

One thing though, Sunday River is near the northeastern border of NH, and really not even that far north.
 
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I just bought 35 acres in SW Maine for this exact reason. I can't move up there yet, but in the next 3-5 years, I am going to be spending as much time North, as I do in PRM.
 

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I moved into NH in 2012, and will NEVER move back to MA (willingly). I'm hoping to move deeper into NH within the next 5 years. My soft plan is to get a decent sized house (it's just me for now) on a good amount of land (enough where I can shoot without checking with the neighbors). I never had the MA mind-set, since we had moved out in the mid-80's (to FL) and then back in 97. NH just feels 'right' to me. The mindset of MOST people is really good. Less .gov, NFG if you're carrying a gun (open or concealed).

We DO need more right-minded people in NH. Where ever they come from. WE NEED to retain the freedoms we have, and NOT let the moonbats or dumbocrats erode them. If anything, we need to take steps to expand the freedoms we have.
 
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Also moved to NH 2012. I love it up here. I do miss being in Mass sometimes for the convenience factor. Most of my friends and family are there.

I would say what I really hate about NH is the Car inspections/Registrations. We are trying to get rid of inspection stickers but it gets shot down every time.
 

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I would say what I really hate about NH is the Car inspections/Registrations.

If you saw what I saw every day you would be encouraging stricter safety inspections.

The OBDII part can go away as far as I am concerned, but I see cars that have no business being on the road trying to get inspection sticker.... bad suspension components, rotted brake and fuel lines, you name it. You can't use salt on your roads and expect people will willingly maintain the hidden systems on the car.

The registration fees are brutal.... I have 2 cars and 2 bikes due this month, I have a check for almost 800 bucks on my desk to take to Town Hall this week. The 3 cars and trailer that we do in August are about 600 dollars....
 

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This isn't even really a question.

Basically if you want to stay in this region of the US (northeast) and you want to avoid as much communism as humanly possible, NH is pretty much the only answer.

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If you saw what I saw every day you would be encouraging stricter safety inspections.

The OBDII part can go away as far as I am concerned, but I see cars that have no business being on the road trying to get inspection sticker.... bad suspension components, rotted brake and fuel lines, you name it. You can't use salt on your roads and expect people will willingly maintain the hidden systems on the car.

I disagree. Should be up to the people to maintain their cars. My truck failed for foolish things and it was just a money grab. Go to a different shop and you will get a different results.

The registration fees are brutal.... I have 2 cars and 2 bikes due this month, I have a check for almost 800 bucks on my desk to take to Town Hall this week. The 3 cars and trailer that we do in August are about 600 dollars....

That we can agree on.
 

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If you saw what I saw every day you would be encouraging stricter safety inspections.

The OBDII part can go away as far as I am concerned, but I see cars that have no business being on the road trying to get inspection sticker.... bad suspension components, rotted brake and fuel lines, you name it. You can't use salt on your roads and expect people will willingly maintain the hidden systems on the car.

No, sorry, that shit needs to go away too. The whole inspection thing is a state orchestrated boondoggle of epic proportions. There are entire states that have none or very little of that horsehit and they have very little problems. There's just a cabal of people that like the free money from the inspection racket (as well as the overpriced light bulbs they sell when someone fails for a license plate bulb or whatever).

The other problem that I have with this is- that stupid sticker not being "up to date" sort of violates due process. I can have a car on the road, with an expired
sticker, that will still easily pass inspection. The state is allowed to cast an aspersion on the condition of my vehicle without actually having to prove it, in that
moment in time. The reverse is also true where the state is giving someone a false sense of security by issuing that sticker. You can get a sticker for a car that has tires that have the legal minimum tread on it. In a month or two it will be out of compliance and "zomg DANGEROUS!!!" a lot of good that sticker did someone in terms of "keeping peoplesafe".

Also, when I was far younger, and dumber, I've literally lost count of the amount of times that I had a car on the road that was paper legal with a perfectly good inspection sticker, but I either had horrible brakes that were failing (like metal scraping on metal kind of failing, not just "oh, the pad wore down a bit, but was basically at end of life" or had bent suspension components like trailing arms, etc... for a short while until I could afford to fix those issues. Or tires that were extremely worn but still structurally sound. I just kept the car off wet roads until I could afford to replace the tires.

That magic sticker really did a GREAT job of keeping my my "bad, dangerous car" off the roads.

Also is there even an actuarial value in it? I don't see this, at least among passenger vehicles, as being a primary cause of accidents/car wrecks. Nobody ever legitimately says "I wouldn't have hit that bus full of nuns if my brakes didn't suddenly give out" It's always some form of gratuitous direct negligence by a driver that causes it, not bad equipment.

If there was an actuarial value you wouldn't need a state mandated inspection sticker because an insurance company would mandate some kind of inspection as a condition of getting insurance, or perhaps they would offer a big discount. In the states that don't have this crap, do such programs exist? I'm doubtful of that. If it meant something ins. cos would be asking for inspections at least 3 times a year.

This inspection business is mostly the product if pant shitters and some people who want a lot of free cash. It's the same kind of mind virus as the people who think there are tons of vans with FREE CANDY roaming around going to scoop up all their kids if theyre not within eyesight, because nancy grace has convinced everyone that diddlers are everywhere just waiting to jump out of the bushes and rape children at any moment....

-Mike
 
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I've had many breakdowns that resulted in coasting to the side of the road and waiting for a tow truck. (or a friend to bring me parts for a roadside repair)

Of the countless accidents I've been in, none were caused by mechanical failure. Usually it's excessive speed, falling asleep, reading or something like that...
 

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Assuming you are a conservative, gun owning, hunting, fishing, skiing type family, is this the State to be in? My wife and I have taken a few trips now out to Montana and Idaho, and we would love to eventually end up out there (although we have to take some January and February trips to get a feel for real winter out there). However, my parents are still in very good health, and if they are unwilling to come with us, well I just can't get myself to leave them. Being a few hours away from them is manageable though, and I could probably drag them north if it only requires a drive in a car.
Unless you can convince your parents to move to Montana with you, then you seem to have talked yourself into New Hampshire.
 

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If you want some acreage in the northeastern part of the state, look at Milan or Jefferson. Shelburne is nice, but property values are higher.

As for "conservative", you really have to recalibrate your thinking in NH. Many of the the blue towns are former mill towns where the "blue" is blue-collar union worker, and they're as socially conservative as it gets. The biggest blue patch isn't the boondocks at all, but West Leb and the area around Dartmouth, which is filled with socialists. And, many of the red towns went for Trump, but not for any reason of principled conservatism.
 

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My only problem with NH is that both myself and my fiancee have jobs in MA that we're going to stay in. Some NH towns are ~40min away without traffic but with traffic that grows to over an hour, which sucks.

BTW, is there a resource somewhere that outlines property taxes in different NH towns as well as what services you get for your money?
 

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My only problem with NH is that both myself and my fiancee have jobs in MA that we're going to stay in. Some NH towns are ~40min away without traffic but with traffic that grows to over an hour, which sucks.

BTW, is there a resource somewhere that outlines property taxes in different NH towns as well as what services you get for your money?
My commute is only Danvers to Chelsea and its a good 45min easy on an average day. Figure that would at least double even if I was just in Salem NH. Seems to be a big difference if youre on 93 or 95 though. 93 is backing up in Stoneham before 3 pm while if youre on 95 at 4pm youre doing 70 mph around Peabody and Danvers. A couple people I know who are in the Londonderry/Windham area and use 93 say its a miserable commute. Another guy who's in Raymond and uses 95 says its not bad. Again, this is just to Chelsea, so if youre going into Boston proper, you still have a good amount of crawling to do. Might be better to drive to a purple line stop close to the border or an outlying T stop.

Iirc, soloman (I think his user name is?? Something Han Solo related...) is a state rep up there in the Seacoast area. He posted a map before that I saved and cant seem to find now. It was color coded by tax rates if Im not mistaken. Maybe he could point you in the right direction regarding how to get that info. Dont hesitate to share. ;)
 

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My only problem with NH is that both myself and my fiancee have jobs in MA that we're going to stay in. Some NH towns are ~40min away without traffic but with traffic that grows to over an hour, which sucks.

BTW, is there a resource somewhere that outlines property taxes in different NH towns as well as what services you get for your money?
Property taxes, yes.

Services offered, no.

Suggest that you whittle it down to a handful and then do what we did, take a few days off and pay a visit to the Town Clerk in each of those towns with a list of questions. They love it and you'll get the info you need. We did that in 7 towns over 1.5 days in October.
 

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My only problem with NH is that both myself and my fiancee have jobs in MA that we're going to stay in. Some NH towns are ~40min away without traffic but with traffic that grows to over an hour, which sucks.

BTW, is there a resource somewhere that outlines property taxes in different NH towns as well as what services you get for your money?
This is the best resource I've found for tax rates. Can't help with the services part.
 

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If you're looking for acreage in NH, try and keep in mind there is a 'current use' law that can help with property taxes.

When I'm at our place up there, I can shoot my Barrett there. I (have) also hunted it. There are trout in the pond at the bottom of the property.

I can't keep up with the deadfall for firewood. (2-3 cords per year).

It is >10 miles to the nearest store/fuel/walmart, etc. in Plymouth.

That's what I wanted up there, peace and quiet.

Once you're up in a sparsely populated area, you get a kind of quiet you won't get in the burbs. It's also an unbelievable level of dark.

The politics of NH are going purple, or there wouldn't be 2 democrat Senators and 2 democrat congresscritters, but opinions vary.
 
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i just moved to NH recently. I am originally from MA but lived in Ocala, FL for 16 years where i had a shooting range on the back of my property then moved to Alaska for 2 years. after living in 2 Free states before coming back to New England in my opinion NH is the most "free" state up here but its nothing like living in a true free state. the people are great here but there is a lot of rules and regulations that someone coming from MA to NH wouldn't think is a big deal. but for someone like me its friggen annoying. I almost moved to Maine and made an offer on a farm with 20 acres, they accepted my offer but it didn't pass inspection luckily for me cause after going through the whole ordeal they told me I would have had to ask permission to the town to put horses and cattle on the place. I was like what its 20 acres of pasture land and it gets used for hay!! I couldn't believe it but was completely happy that didn't work out. the more I looked into Maine the more I decided on NH as it was less strict but still not what I personally consider free.

on another note when we left AK this September we had a 5th wheel we traveled all out west for 2 months. Montana and Idaho we liked the best. Idaho is cheaper than MT for most things. we have several friends in MT and we stayed out there for 3 weeks. they all said its very liberal and it has definitely changed since I had last been there about 20 years ago but its still an incredible place. I went to a shooting match in Hamilton and everyone at the match was from CA except one guy. I really liked the Bitterroot Valley area but man is it expensive for property there and water rights is tough deal out there still don't fully understand all that. anywhere you go there is stuff to put up with but I only came back here cause of family.
 
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