Liberals Shoot Guns for the First Time

The offensive thing about this is the implication that "liberals" don't know how to shoot guns, which is absurd. Some of the finest pistol instructors I know are "liberals." This just plays into the old & tired red vs blue, & liberal vs conservative.
 
The offensive thing about this is the implication that "liberals" don't know how to shoot guns, which is absurd. Some of the finest pistol instructors I know are "liberals." This just plays into the old & tired red vs blue, & liberal vs conservative.

This video is about 5 Liberal anti gunners. None of them were experienced with firearms.

As far as my take. It sucks they fight the urge to like it. Just give in.
 
This video is about 5 Liberal anti gunners. None of them were experienced with firearms.

As far as my take. It sucks they fight the urge to like it. Just give in.

That was just their initial response. The one girl who wanted to do it again probably will. The rest may come around after they've had some time to marinate on it.
 
"Just ask Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Castro and a host of other liberals (or their victims)."

Must be the first time I've ever seen these names listed as anything other than megalomaniacs. "Liberals" they were not. At least not in the reality of the 20th century.
 
I was a bit nervous about watching that video. I didn't really want to, but then I did it anyway and I started liking the video. Then I felt bad about liking the video. Maybe that video would be ok on VHS tapes but I'm still not sure if it should be allowed on the internet. In the end, I'd watch that video again.
 
The offensive thing about this is the implication that "liberals" don't know how to shoot guns, which is absurd. Some of the finest pistol instructors I know are "liberals." This just plays into the old & tired red vs blue, & liberal vs conservative.

No, that's not the implication about this at all. The implication is that "liberals" tend to be antigun and supportive of taking away our 2A rights, which obviously isn't true in every case but was true for each of these ones.
 
I was a bit nervous about watching that video. I didn't really want to, but then I did it anyway and I started liking the video. Then I felt bad about liking the video. Maybe that video would be ok on VHS tapes but I'm still not sure if it should be allowed on the internet. In the end, I'd watch that video again.
Just remember that not everything that is fun is legal.
 
"Just ask Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Castro and a host of other liberals (or their victims)."

Must be the first time I've ever seen these names listed as anything other than megalomaniacs. "Liberals" they were not. At least not in the reality of the 20th century.

Socialists and big government proponents they were. While certainly not fitting the enlightenment definition of a liberal, modern "liberals" do not fit that definition either. The left would like to distance itself from there "megalomaniacs" but it is hard to distance oneself from your ideological forefathers. The lines are sufficiently blurred, I would also toss into the list Roosevelt.
 
Liberals know how to shoot guns very well. Just ask Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Castro and a host of other liberals (or their victims).

I agree with you but, technically speaking, Lenin and Stalin weren't shooters. Stalin's bio is really murky, I remember reading about his participation in some armed robbery. and that's AFAIK the only time when he might've actually held a firearm. Lenin apparently was somewhat of a hunter, at least he asked for a permission to obtain a shotgun for hunting during his exile to Siberia. Castro definitely knows how to shoot (if he's still alive, a lot of people doubt it). IDK about Mao.
 
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The offensive thing about this is the implication that "liberals" don't know how to shoot guns, which is absurd. Some of the finest pistol instructors I know are "liberals." This just plays into the old & tired red vs blue, & liberal vs conservative.

You seem to be defending this "liberals can like guns too" thing pretty strongly. Yet given the current political landscape, the modern American liberal ideology and private ownership of guns just doesn't mix.

So I'll turn it around on you. Assuming that you call yourself a liberal, why hold on to the liberal moniker when you could just easily say that you are an issues person, and can formulate your own opinion?

There are plenty of people on this site that probably agree with many of your opinions on the various issues of the day, whatever they may be, but would rather not hold on to any of the tired, broken labels.

Just some food for thought. [grin]
 
+1

Ive gotten into a number of debates with liberals who ignorantly say things like "NAZI's were conservatives!" And "I dont want to live in a country dominates by conservatives like thise communists in Russia!" Jesus lord help us....


Liberals know how to shoot guns very well. Just ask Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Castro and a host of other liberals (or their victims).



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There are plenty of people on this site that probably agree with many of your opinions on the various issues of the day, whatever they may be, but would rather not hold on to any of the tired, broken labels.

Just some food for thought. [grin]

I would agree with you on the point of that sometimes labels overtake the significance of what they are being used to describe. Though I have always considered it more of a Kinsey Scale type of measure which can vary by the situation or even the day.

Also, I would say when I took my buddy's gf shooting, who is very much in line with "liberal" social and economic policy minded people, she really enjoyed her self and said the only thing she didn't like was that she didn't like the trigger pull on my revolver. She said she would by happy to go again but just with a different gun. [sad2]
 
I don't have a dog in the liberal vs conservative argument, but I am offended whenever people are categorized in one of the camps as being "anti-gun." It's never so simple. I have a central Mass certified pistol instructor who is wildly anti-NRA. He specializes in teaching troopers how to survive. I also have a close friend who is about as right wing as you'll find; he hates guns, and anyone who owns one. I'm yet to admit I'm a shooter when I'm around him.

The more people I know, the more I realize that nothing is as simple as this thread seems to indicate. Perhaps there's a general tilt by liberals to favor gun control. Perhaps there's a general tilt by conservatives to support gun ownership. But tossing all liberals into an anti-gun category is beyond stupid. And the reverse is true.

Btw, calling Mao, Stalin, Lenin, and Castro liberals is absurd. It's a gross ignorance of history.
 
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Ive gotten into a number of debates with liberals who ignorantly say things like "NAZI's were conservatives!" And "I dont want to live in a country dominates by conservatives like thise communists in Russia!" Jesus lord help us....






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Nazis were "national socialists" but really fascists. fascism straddles the left/right continuum. It would be wrong to categorize fascism as solely right or solely left.
 
The offensive thing about this is the implication that "liberals" don't know how to shoot guns, which is absurd. Some of the finest pistol instructors I know are "liberals." This just plays into the old & tired red vs blue, & liberal vs conservative.

I hope those instructors are working hard to get their liberal friends to stop crapping all over the 2nd Amendment.

I wish the correlation were old and tired but unfortunately, it still exists.
 
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I don't have a dog in the liberal vs conservative argument, but I am offended whenever people are categorized in one of the camps as being "anti-gun." It's never so simple.

There's a simple acid test, imo. There are people who think they have the right to control other people's behavior and there are people who want to be left alone and offer others the same courtesy. In my experience the control freaks are mostly political lefties. Like my in-laws. "Why does anyone need a gun?" they ask. I refrain from asking why they need a bag of golf clubs.

And yes I know Republicans, gay marriage, abortion, etc.
 
2 things stand out to me... 1. Once shooting, it was smiles all around. Each and every one. 2. For people that "demanded" stricter gun rules, regulations, safety, and "control" every one of them broke all of the most fundamental gun safety rules in there most basic form
 
I have a central Mass certified pistol instructor who is wildly anti-NRA. He specializes in teaching troopers how to survive. I also have a close friend who is about as right wing as you'll find; he hates guns, and anyone who owns one. I'm yet to admit I'm a shooter when I'm around him.

Neither of your two examples sheds any definitive light on their respective 2A views.

You should man up and confess that you shoot to your close-minded friend. Hiding in shame doesn't do the pro-gun side any good.
 
so I wasn't the only one gasping at the fingers on the triggers and the blatant muzzle sweeping?

2 things stand out to me... 1. Once shooting, it was smiles all around. Each and every one. 2. For people that "demanded" stricter gun rules, regulations, safety, and "control" every one of them broke all of the most fundamental gun safety rules in there most basic form
 
I don't have a dog in the liberal vs conservative argument, but I am offended whenever people are categorized in one of the camps as being "anti-gun." It's never so simple. I have a central Mass certified pistol instructor who is wildly anti-NRA. He specializes in teaching troopers how to survive. I also have a close friend who is about as right wing as you'll find; he hates guns, and anyone who owns one. I'm yet to admit I'm a shooter when I'm around him.

The more people I know, the more I realize that nothing is as simple as this thread seems to indicate. Perhaps there's a general tilt by liberals to favor gun control. Perhaps there's a general tilt by conservatives to support gun ownership. But tossing all liberals into an anti-gun category is beyond stupid. And the reverse is true.
The lowest common denominator rules here as it does on any gun forum, and this site is dominated by people who are economically, politically, and socially conservative. Acknowledging the middle-ground occupied by people who might own guns, might not be that politically active, and might not fit neatly into liberal or conservative boxes is inconvenient and doesn't lend itself well to sound bites and catch phrases.
 
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