Law Tactical AR Folding Stock Adapter GEN 3-M: Is this now legal in Massachusetts?

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AR Pistols now legal?

is this legal, too?

www.lawtactical.com

Law Tactical AR Folding Stock Adapter Gen 3-M

The first and only folding stock adapter compatible with all AR platform rifles. The Law Tactical Folding Stock Adapter works with direct impingement or gas piston systems and fits any A2, carbine, mil spec or commercial buffer tube and stock
www.lawtactical.com

www.brownells.com

Brownells - Serious about firearms

Brownells is the destination of choice for all your Law Tactical product needs.
www.brownells.com www.brownells.com

Here is a photo of the adapter on a pistol...

noveske.com

12.5" Batwing 6mm ARC Pistol | Noveske Rifleworks

noveske.com noveske.com
 
paul73 said:
heh. the answer is cmmg dissent.
the $250 adapter is, of course, not needed. there are way simpler ways to deal with this.
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The Dissent line is interesting, but a $1500+ upper vs. a $200 adapter is a different discussion.

The Law Tactical adapters are solid, or so I have heard from a friend.
 
Mountain said:
The Dissent line is interesting, but a $1500+ upper vs. a $200 adapter is a different discussion.

The Law Tactical adapters are solid, or so I have heard from a friend.
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$1200 on gunbroker, for .223 even less, like a $1150 i think. i got one in 9mm, it is a fun thing in 10.7" barrel, as of other calibers they got, not sure, i do not need them, but, well, it is a very interesting concept. i did not compare yet in detail if you can actually swap out the bolt assembly with a standard AR one. looks to be very similar, but cmmg is known to throw in obstacles and making parts proprietary.

obviously, there are more moving parts that can potentially brake in dissent design compared to a classic AR, but if one wants a functional 10" ar pistol - it is an ideal solution right now, better than a brownels alternative. a 9mm one has no gas tube and is quite soft to shoot from what i can tell.

ps. as of those adapters - sure they are solid, but it is a $250 solution for a $20 problem, that is all. :)
 
I have one of those LAW folders, they are big meh. Adds weight, can't shoot it folded, expensive, and overall pretty gay. Just take the upper off the lower, it will make for a shorter package and you won't have to worry about being turned gay, either by LAW tactical or law enforcement.
 
Reptile said:
AR Pistols now legal?

is this legal, too?

www.lawtactical.com

Law Tactical AR Folding Stock Adapter Gen 3-M

The first and only folding stock adapter compatible with all AR platform rifles. The Law Tactical Folding Stock Adapter works with direct impingement or gas piston systems and fits any A2, carbine, mil spec or commercial buffer tube and stock
www.lawtactical.com

www.brownells.com

Brownells - Serious about firearms

Brownells is the destination of choice for all your Law Tactical product needs.
www.brownells.com www.brownells.com

Here is a photo of the adapter on a pistol...

noveske.com

12.5" Batwing 6mm ARC Pistol | Noveske Rifleworks

noveske.com noveske.com
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Law is LITERALLY in the name of the product. Of course it's legal.
 
I swear,
ChevyGuy91 said:
I have one of those LAW folders, they are big meh. Adds weight, can't shoot it folded, expensive, and overall pretty gay. Just take the upper off the lower, it will make for a shorter package and you won't have to worry about being turned gay, either by LAW tactical or law enforcement.
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Yeah, “meh” was my feeling as well when I tried them. It wasn’t worth the added weight. But, I’m sure they’re great for some people who want their normal AR upper instead of a proprietary upper, but still need folding for transport. Though, I think breaking down the receiver halves is a different use case than the folder though.
 
south park cartman GIF
 
paul73 said:
heh. the answer is cmmg dissent.
the $250 adapter is, of course, not needed. there are way simpler ways to deal with this.
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Do they make an upper for 450BM? (I didn't see one online).

Asking for a friend that might want to build a 7" 450BM pistol. (Crazy kid).
 
Mountain said:
The Dissent line is interesting, but a $1500+ upper vs. a $200 adapter is a different discussion.

The Law Tactical adapters are solid, or so I have heard from a friend.
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Hilarious thing about the Dissent was it was supposed to be 50 state legal and a workaround for people who want the AR experience in a ban state... but it's still only 47 state legal.
 
G4Y4HK said:
Hilarious thing about the Dissent was it was supposed to be 50 state legal and a workaround for people who want the AR experience in a ban state... but it's still only 47 state legal.
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Why wouldn't the fudd stocked version be 50 state legal? I can see the 'normal' versions having a problem in some states.

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Broc Tuah said:
Do they make an upper for 450BM? (I didn't see one online).

Asking for a friend that might want to build a 7" 450BM pistol. (Crazy kid).
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Their ar10 uppers do not fit standard lowers. I did not check it myself but several forums state that, that neither type of ar10 lowers works there.

Ar15 smaller ones do fit standard lowers. So you can swap barrels to what you want as long as supplied bolt works for you.

As i stated I did not take apart its bcg to check for compatibility.
 
paul73 said:
Their ar10 uppers do not fit standard lowers. I did not check it myself but several forums state that, that neither type of ar10 lowers works there.

Ar15 smaller ones do fit standard lowers. So you can swap barrels to what you want as long as supplied bolt works for you.

As i stated I did not take apart its bcg to check for compatibility.
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The 450 BM uses an AR15 lower. But I would need to make sure the bolt works.
 
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I bought a Noveske pistol with a LAW folder and scrapped that sumbitch within 30 minutes of getting home. In case anyone wants the folder.
 
I'm personally OK with a 226 on my hip with a spare mag or 2, and a long gun in the trunk. A pdw under the drivers seat would be really cool but it would have to be full auto with a can to make me want one. I'm not gonna fell undegunned with a 16" AR, LPVO, and 3 spare mags.
 
PappyM3 said:
This could be an option with a normal 450 BM upper and an adjustable gas block.


Though, they do say .223/300blk. I’m not sure if it would work if swapping to a 450 BM bolt. Might be too much oomph for the spring.
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I am not sure if I would trust very much that design of a cmmg bolt assembly for larger calibers, to me it looked a bit flimsy compared to a similar design of tavor.

I may get one more out of curiosity , but, I would not treat it as a primary platform or replace my current larues with that.
 
paul73 said:
I am not sure if I would trust very much that design of a cmmg bolt assembly for larger calibers, to me it looked a bit flimsy compared to a similar design of tavor.

I may get one more out of curiosity , but, I would not treat it as a primary platform or replace my current larues with that.
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I don’t think anybody is treating a 450 bushmaster pistol as a primary platform.
 
PappyM3 said:
I don’t think anybody is treating a 450 bushmaster pistol as a primary platform.
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It was an overall comment about dissent upper design. I don’t think it will be overstressed by .223 but anything bigger, doesn’t seem like a great idea, if one wants to start swapping barrels and reusing the rest.

Still, it is probably the best cheap bufferless upper right now.
 
paul73 said:
It was an overall comment about dissent upper design. I don’t think it will be overstressed by .223 but anything bigger, doesn’t seem like a great idea, if one wants to start swapping barrels and reusing the rest.

Still, it is probably the best cheap bufferless upper right now.
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Oh, my link wasn’t the Dissent. It was an aftermarket bufferless BCG. Though, I certainly wouldn’t trust it on a defensive weapon.

As for the Dissent, its BCG/recoil spring setup is extremely similar to the Sig MCX, which seems pretty reliable. Both are basically beefed up/improved AR-18/AR-180 designs. I’m not sure if the Dissent is reliable in general, but the overall design of the BCG/recoil springs shouldn’t be a concern.
 
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