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Ladies, help me in breaking the news to the Wife ...

Quiet said:
You need to tell her that she needs to get her license as well, take the training and make the application for her license.
She needs to be able to take control of (and responsibility for) the guns in the house when you're not home. Or if they're in your car. She should be able to handle them safely. Take her to a very nice and clean range for the training, such as Mass Firearms School.
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Most people don't take well to being told what to do and from the OPs description of his wife 'being told' what to do will go over like a lead balloon with his wife and probably damage their relationship even more. From the sounds of it she is very controlling. It's his marriage so I wont pass judgment on it just point out the obvious fail in suggestions like this one.
 
AllaSnackbah said:
Im rooting for you brother!
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I think she'll come around, at least enough to tolerate the situation.

I've joked with her about what would be required for her to pick up a revolver right beside her for defense purposes.

It starts in a hostage standoff with Abdullah and a knife to my throat.

He saws my head off with a dull blade.

She makes no move for the gun.

But as soon as he makes a move to harm one of the golden retrievers ... she empties the gun into him.

She thinks hurting one of the dogs is what it would take ...
 
PennyPincher said:
Most people don't take well to being told what to do and from the OPs description of his wife 'being told' what to do will go over like a lead balloon with his wife and probably damage their relationship even more. From the sounds of it she is very controlling. It's his marriage so I wont pass judgment on it just point out the obvious fail in suggestions like this one.
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LOL don't mistake my lack of tact in wording a post for a suggestion on how OP ought to approach his wife.
 
Concealed is concealed.
lasitter said:
I think she'll come around, at least enough to tolerate the situation.

I've joked with her about what would be required for her to pick up a revolver right beside her for defense purposes.

It starts in a hostage standoff with Abdullah and a knife to my throat.

He saws my head off with a dull blade.

She makes no move for the gun.

But as soon as he makes a move to harm one of the golden retrievers ... she empties the gun into him.

She thinks hurting one of the dogs is what it would take ...
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There's your answer. Just tell her you're protecting the dogs, if she asks.
 
There are much deeper issues here than her giving the op permission to carry. Time for some counseling. Your gonna spend the rest of your life licking her boots if you don't start living the life you want.

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I will try this again (hit backspace)

I don't tell my wife when I am CCW. None of her business. Also- sounds like you are sacrificing a lot to advance her career. Has that come up?

I don't want to sound judgmental, but here goes- if she is unwilling to "tolerate" your State and Federal RKBA, I personally would tell her to ...... . ....... ...... .........!

Move if you must, but CCW and stop caring.
 
lasitter said:
I think she'll come around, at least enough to tolerate the situation.

I've joked with her about what would be required for her to pick up a revolver right beside her for defense purposes.

It starts in a hostage standoff with Abdullah and a knife to my throat.

He saws my head off with a dull blade.

She makes no move for the gun.

But as soon as he makes a move to harm one of the golden retrievers ... she empties the gun into him.

She thinks hurting one of the dogs is what it would take ...
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This is meant to be funny, but this speak volumes for how you likely feel. Op, you remind me of Lester Burnham from American Beauty before he change for the better....

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AllaSnackbah said:
OP, I stewed on this after editing my original reaction, but it needs to be said. This is going to sound harsh, but i think you need to hear it.



Who in the **** are you calling ladies dude? You better soak up all the advice you can get in this thread before she takes away your internet privileges for the night and delegates you back to kitchen bitch duties. You need to reach down in your apron and grab hold of that floppy little piece of dead epidermis between your drumsticks and kindly tell this lady to go make you a sandwich, and allow me to digress for one second, i dont mean a ****in little PBJ or anything, I'm talking one of them big ****ers subway makes for superbowl parties and shit bro. You need to march your ass down to the gun store, with her credit card, tomorrow, and buy a Barrett M107 or a solothurn or some shit, call up bravo concealment, or go to the saddle shop, and have them make you a custom OWB holster for that shit, pop a handful of viagra and march around your house carrying that shit with no pants on for the next month. IF she can't deal, it wasn't meant to be bro, seriously. Now I'm by no means a tough guy or badass, especially with women, and granted you've been married since i was like 7 years old, but the game dont change with age dude, you still need to put your man pants on, at least on occasion and say "bitch, sandwich." My lady accomplice told me once, just once, early on in our living together that if i bought another gun she was going to leave me because i "had enough", the next day i brought home $3,000 rifle just to see if she had the balls, but i already knew the answer to that question, nope, because I wear the manpants. Obviously I am jesting a little here bro, and please dont misjudge me for a sexist douche or anything, but dude real talk for a minute, if you are really truly interested in something and she refuses to accept you for who you are, it just isn't going to work, you are going to die a miserable old bastard hating her someday if you dont put a kabosh on this shit stat. Relationships are all about compromises dude, judging from your OP, she needs to give a little, cuz she somehow won the life lottery and got herself a great dude who will literally go to hell (MA) for her.

Im rooting for you brother!
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Best post in thread![rofl]
 
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The only time wives or girlfriends should come up on NES is when a good one like Notrucksallowed's wife who bought him a new Kahr just cause it rained that day (rained a million times for me and I get dick) or Basscatfrank's who let him choose anything for Xmas. Another good time is when you are like 90% of us with normal human SO's and you get to talk about sneaking new guns into the house. 9% of the guys who say their girlfriends are totally cool with the splurges are either rich, dating a tranny and don't know it, or in too new of a relationship where she will still put up with his BS.

don't know you so I can't judge but you sound institutionalized man. It's great that you bend over backwards for her and you should but It sounds like you think it's your purpose of existence. You use words like "beg". You're convinced she cares more about the dogs than you and you accept that?

If you buckle under her pressure, you are doing HER a disservice and are not being her better half. You let it get this far.

Growing a pair is the best thing you can do for the both of you. That doesn't mean to be a dick but to draw boundaries and respect hers. Have a strong opinion.

Anyone can make a marriage last if they lose their spine to do it. The question is can you do it? Are you gonna snap? Is it going to be ugly?

You can either try to make it better and risk divorce or let this get ugly and die miserable.
 
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jho said:
don't know you so I can't judge but you sound institutionalized man.
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Surely there are worse things in life ...
jho said:
It's great that you bend over backwards for her and you should but It sounds like you think it's your purpose of existence.
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I don't believe in "symmetrical" relationships. I think the world is littered with broken marriages where each party was willing to meet the other exactly half way, and not an inch more.

The problem with these relationships is that both sides usually have a different idea about where that midpoint lies. I think successful relationships usually depend on having at least one person that's willing to go very far past the midfield stripe to make the relationship work. I decided a long time ago that I wanted to be that person.

jho said:
You're convinced she cares more about the dogs than you and you accept that?
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She gives the dogs unconditional love in a way she doesn't give any human being, and they give it right back. The dogs are our surrogate children. We call them our "furry babies". Many of her decisions are emotion based, and this is one area where emotions rule absolutely. If she had actual children, I'm certain that she'd care about them more than me. Why be mad about something neither of you can change?

jho said:
Anyone can make a marriage last if they lose their spine to do it. The question is can you do it? Are you gonna snap? Is it going to be ugly? You can either try to make it better and risk divorce or let this get ugly and die miserable.
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The purpose of this thread was to seek advice on ways to preserve my 2a rights and also a marriage. I've gotten some great ideas here, but suggestions to "grow a pair" or pistol whip her into submission are not the ones I value.

I have no intention of being or staying miserable. I will always have the power to bring about a change in the relationship, even if that means ending it. But before I even consider that step, I have to have an idea about what's next. It's all to easy to jump from the frying pan into the fire.

It's taken months of work but now I'm pretty sure I will find things to enjoy about living in Massachusetts. If my brother could do it for over 10 years with his second wife in a rathole of a house and an armpit of a town (New Bedford), I like my chances in Ludlow.

Of course, he's the real relationship expert. He's working on his third marriage and I haven't even finished my first one yet ...
 
lasitter said:
Surely there are worse things in life ... I don't believe in "symmetrical" relationships. I think the world is littered with broken marriages where each party was willing to meet the other exactly half way, and not an inch more.

The problem with these relationships is that both sides usually have a different idea about where that midpoint lies. I think successful relationships usually depend on having at least one person that's willing to go very far past the midfield stripe to make the relationship work. I decided a long time ago that I wanted to be that person.

She gives the dogs unconditional love in a way she doesn't give any human being, and they give it right back. The dogs are our surrogate children. We call them our "furry babies". Many of her decisions are emotion based, and this is one area where emotions rule absolutely. If she had actual children, I'm certain that she'd care about them more than me. Why be mad about something neither of you can change?



The purpose of this thread was to seek advice on ways to preserve my 2a rights and also a marriage. I've gotten some great ideas here, but suggestions to "grow a pair" or pistol whip her into submission are not the ones I value.

I have no intention of being or staying miserable. I will always have the power to bring about a change in the relationship, even if that means ending it. But before I even consider that step, I have to have an idea about what's next. It's all to easy to jump from the frying pan into the fire.

It's taken months of work but now I'm pretty sure I will find things to enjoy about living in Massachusetts. If my brother could do it for over 10 years with his second wife in a rathole of a house and an armpit of a town (New Bedford), I like my chances in Ludlow.

Of course, he's the real relationship expert. He's working on his third marriage and I haven't even finished my first one yet ...
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No way do I think you should whip her into submission but you can't let her walk on your values. Like I said I don't know you. I don't meet my girlfriend half way in a lot of things but we make up for it in other assets of our life.

My girlfriend might complain about how much I spend on ammo and guns rightfully so. But she knows she can't step on my belief that I should be able to own them. That's not a male dominance thing at all. I stated my beliefs with her and said its part of my core values. I also told her that if she feels like she can't trust me with a common household tool then we have other things to talk about, not just the guns. She's totally cool with it and I've even overheard her quote my 2A rants when discussing politics with her friends even though I was convinced she was ignoring them.

I guess you just need to decide where you stand on your right to bear arms and decide why it's so important, then convey that to her and I hope she meets you more half halfway on that point.

Enjoy MA and make sure you buy all the cool guns we can't get here before moving.




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jho said:
The only time wives or girlfriends should come up on NES is when a good one like Notrucksallowed's wife who bought him a new Kahr just cause it rained that day (rained a million times for me and I get dick) or Basscatfrank's who let him choose anything for Xmas. Another good time is when you are like 90% of us with normal human SO's and you get to talk about sneaking new guns into the house. 9% of the guys who say their girlfriends are totally cool with the splurges are either rich, dating a tranny and don't know it, or in too new of a relationship where she will still put up with his BS.

don't know you so I can't judge but you sound institutionalized man. It's great that you bend over backwards for her and you should but It sounds like you think it's your purpose of existence. You use words like "beg". You're convinced she cares more about the dogs than you and you accept that?

If you buckle under her pressure, you are doing HER a disservice and are not being her better half. You let it get this far.

Growing a pair is the best thing you can do for the both of you. That doesn't mean to be a dick but to draw boundaries and respect hers. Have a strong opinion.

Anyone can make a marriage last if they lose their spine to do it. The question is can you do it? Are you gonna snap? Is it going to be ugly?

You can either try to make it better and risk divorce or let this get ugly and die miserable.
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Bwahahahahahahahaha he said tranny hahahahahahaha
 
My wife once mentioned moving to mass.
I shut that idea down so fast it hasn't been mentioned in the last 20 years!
Guns are the great equalizer & any woman that doesn't carry is either nuts or Naive'.(My wife belongs to both camps..)
She's not into them at all, but I could care less. I've been shooting since way before she came into the scene.
There is no news to break bro!
She gets a new job, house & gets to torture & bring you to commieland. You should get SOMETHING out of the deal!
 
Which one of you is happy when:
She gets a new haircut?
She gets a new purse?
You get a new holster?
She gets a raise?
She gets a new car?
You get a new leather jacket?
You get new tires for the minivan?
She puts money into savings?
She goes out with the girls?
She cooks?
She wants to go to a restaurant?

If the answer isn't "both of us" to all of them and almost every other thing in both of your lives, in my opinion you're doing it wrong. It's shouldn't be a competition. You don't lose if only she "gets something" out of this deal. It isn't a "zero sum game." You both win when either of you wins and both of you can celebrate together.
 
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Glock-Girl said:
I find it funny that you have specifically asked for advice from ladies, and 98% of the responses are from guys. Lol
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yeah but about half of us in here are light enough in the loafers to legally qualify as female under massachusetts law.

also women are as rare as hen's teeth on NES, there are a handful of you ladies left but a lot get fed up and leave, or the leghumpers push them out.
 

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