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L.A.Times editorial board wants federal firearm storage law

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by DispositionMatrix, May 17, 2019.

  1. DispositionMatrix

    DispositionMatrix NES Member

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    Gun storage laws save lives, so why don't we have more of them?
     

  2. one-eyed Jack

    one-eyed Jack Manufacturer Dealer NES Member

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    They cite Mass. Seems to work as we have no firearms crimes here. Jack.
     
  3. Cipher

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    Good thing I don't care about the opinions of the LA Times editorial board.
     
  4. Uzi2

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    Well, they can shit in one hand and want in the other and see which one fills up first.

    The Right to KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!
     
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    More Fake News from La-La land.
     
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    BUMPA01603 NES Member

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    There is nobody working for that moonbat rag that has my best interests in mind, f*ck them!
     
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  7. jhblaze1

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    gun laws work, which is why MA has so little gun crime. Also, because of the epidemic levels of gun crime in MA, we need more gun laws.
     
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    SCOTUS says no. So do the words in the 2nd Amendment
     
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    That’s some catch that Catch-22
     
  10. C. Stockwell

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    I would say "explain to me how you intend to use the Commerce Clause to make this a law", but the Commerce Clause is basically a door mat.
     
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    The huge problem with a national safe storage law is the requirements they are likely to demand, like you must have a GSA Level 5 safe with Sargent and Greenleaf electronic combination dial, with the combo stored at the local PD (just as a backup naturally). This would be expensive! I think in CA you must show that the safe you own has room for any new acquisitions, just to add more fun to the mix.
     
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    Funny how this proposal is pushed by the same clowns who are eager to tell everyone that what they do in the privacy of their own home is their own business.
     
  13. Dadstoys

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    I would guess that their building has armed security.
    Are their guns kept in a locker ?
     
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    yea, like DUI laws work so well
     
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    A like explicitly for your avatar sir.

    Go B’s!
     
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    Common sense isn't.

    *I* keep my doors locked. There may or may not be "unsecured" guns, accessible to me and others who need to know where they are. *Most* of my guns (i.e. long guns & pistols that are not part of my home defense plan) are indeed locked up. If they're not part of my H-D plan or EDC, I a) don't want them stolen, b) don't want anyone to access them and use them negligently, and c) "don't touch my stuff!"

    Everyone should have their own plan about how they handle "safe storage." If you have kids in the home, either full-time or day visitors, you should take precautions to ensure they're not accessible. Same if you have visitors in your home (everyone has a shitbum brother-in-law) who shouldn't be around guns. Secure them when the shitbums of your world arrive at your doorstep. If/when you're not home, you ought to take reasonable precautions to ensure nobody's going to just walk in and take your stuff. At the very least, don't make it easy for them.

    I sort of do have a problem with .gov telling people ANYTHING AT ALL, about their guns, what they can have, or how it should be stored, under penalty of _______. Period, full stop.

    But I have no problem with them "educating" people on "best practices" to avoid theft or accidental/negligent discharge, so that people can make an educated decision, balancing their needs vs some perceived risk.

    Stupid people will always be stupid. You can't regulate stupidity.
     
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    Same can be said for alcohol and pills. Make sure those little f***ers are locked up because they may get someone drunk or high.
     
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    * Nods.

    Which are responsible for like 10x the deaths of firearms. Right?
     
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    I used to work with their security folk, long before the buyout by biotech billionaire Patrick Soon-Shiong. Most of the focus was on parcel threats (anthrax letters and mail bombs), but they did have some actual hardcore "executive protection" staff.

    IIRC, they fired the security staff and outsourced their armed security to the lowest bidder when they were hurting for money. I'm sure the contract specifies that the minimum-wage guards store their firearms in a locker at end-of-shift.
     
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    But not while they are on duty I would guess.
    There should be plenty of time to run to a safe and unlock them should something happen according to the times logic so no need to have them on the job.
    Of course the reality is that you can bet your ass they have them at the ready to protect the times staff, because they are a different and better class of people than the population at large .
    Kind of like when you see Faker or Healy talking about how YOU don't need to have a gun while everywhere they go there are a couple of armed Staties not more than two steps away at all times.
     
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    The item/object does not do anything. The human does.
     
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    How many children must die before we let parents with common sense make informed decisions without government interference?

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