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"Just Right Carbine"
- Thread starter IDPA Mike
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There really aren't a lot on 9mm carbines to choose from.
Uzi comes to mind as does the Cobray M11/9 .
You can also get an AR variant in 9mm or look around for a Ruger PC9.
Marlin once made a neat little Camp Carbine in both 9 and .45, they even had a quick-takedown variant that took hi-cap S&W mags.
Uzi comes to mind as does the Cobray M11/9 .
You can also get an AR variant in 9mm or look around for a Ruger PC9.
Marlin once made a neat little Camp Carbine in both 9 and .45, they even had a quick-takedown variant that took hi-cap S&W mags.
A 9mm upper is about $500 Mag well adapter 150+, Total = $650 not including mags.
I am only looking to shoot this gun at pin matches once a month or so.
I was considering the High point 9mm. $270 but it only has 10 round mags
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I don't know if it would work for matches, but I actually like the Beretta storm. I shot a buddy's 9mm storm a little while ago and it was actually a cool little carbine. I've heard they stand up to "hard use" as well...
One of the guys has one. Kind of expensive for plinking though $7-800
Mass-diver
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$629 new at FS - I would think a used one could be had for maybe $500? Still more than a hipoint though. Plus, preban 15rounders are big bucks these days
Closer to $550-$600 used if you find the right one. I have one and it's a fun cheap, pretty accurate lil carbine.
If a JRC was available for $500 jump on it... especially if you have a glock 9mm for a sidearm... if you can find 17 rnd mags or even a 33 round mag and have a bunch of spare 10 rounders it would be a great plinking carbine and be a great setup to compliment a glock handgun if the SHTF. one caliber for a sidearm and a carbine is a plus in my book.
haqve you checked out the high point 995... i'm trying to find a used one now... great little plinkers too
haqve you checked out the high point 995... i'm trying to find a used one now... great little plinkers too
My 2 choices for what I want the gun for are the High point, $270 or the Just Right Carbine for $570 .
I just don't know if its worth the extra $300 to use my Glock mags,.
It is not my defense gun ,just a plinker
I have a Beretta CX Storm in .45 ACP which I like a lot (max cap in standard mags is 8 rounds of .45) . If I didn't have to live with neutered magazines, I think the 9mm would be a good choice. Good ergonomics...lots of after market accessories, reliable and lightweight, plus it can be adapted to take a variety of Beretta 9mm magazines.
if the SHTF every gun becomes a defense gun... lol
have you seen a lot of 995's out there???
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I have one also, and love it! Mine uses the Beretta 92FS mags, so you can get pre-bans pretty readily. I had a long standing order for the Glock17 version, because of the 33 round mags, but evidently everyone else wants them for that reason too. When my shop called and said they had the 92 version they were holding for me, I just jumped on it, and have been very pleased with it - especially given the fact you can fit it in a laptop case, or backpack very easily! I also fitted mine with the buttpad extender (which is a must inmo), as well as the Keltec rail system, which allows for mounting lights, lasers, bi-pods, etc. Now I just need to pick up a Beretta 92FS handgun so that I have that to share the mags with.
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Thats why I went with the G22 mag version, I have a Glock 22 already, so they can all share magazines. It is a perfect bug out rifle. fits in my back packs' laptop sleeve perfectly. Some web sites say the 9mm hits with the velosity and energy of a .357 magnum, and the .40 hits like a .41 mag. Either way, perfect for hunting, zombies, and plinking.
I have a Hi-Point 995, bought used for $170. They supposedly make 15 round mags for it, but not for MA. 10-rounders are $17/ea and shipped same day by the lady that answers the phone. She also sent me (no charge!) a new firing pin and springs cyz the previous owner f-ed them up. Oh, no s&h bs either. 2 mags, pin and springs, $34, no muss no fuss, and no "1 for English 2 for Spanish" crap either! Another thing... I had a question, talked to the tech/service guy for 15 minutes, he looked something up and called me back. When's the last time you got THAT kinda service???
Also, their warranty is LIFETIME! Not for the original owner, for the GUN! When I called Sig with a problem on my used Mosquito (so I can teach handgun safety to my daughters) they told me "Send it in, we'll look at it, and let you know what the repair us going to cost.". This, on a gun with KNOWN problems, by supposedly one of the best names in the biz...
Anybody that wants to try mine is welcome, I almost always have it when I go to the range, and will bring it to Manchester on Friday for my "Mosin Gang". One more thing... Send the Hi-Point in for service, they send back a free mag to "cover shipping". Not bad
ETA: they also make the gun in .40 and .45 and those mags are apparently interchangeable with their handguns, although I have zero experience with them or knowledge about them.
Also, their warranty is LIFETIME! Not for the original owner, for the GUN! When I called Sig with a problem on my used Mosquito (so I can teach handgun safety to my daughters) they told me "Send it in, we'll look at it, and let you know what the repair us going to cost.". This, on a gun with KNOWN problems, by supposedly one of the best names in the biz...
Anybody that wants to try mine is welcome, I almost always have it when I go to the range, and will bring it to Manchester on Friday for my "Mosin Gang". One more thing... Send the Hi-Point in for service, they send back a free mag to "cover shipping". Not bad
ETA: they also make the gun in .40 and .45 and those mags are apparently interchangeable with their handguns, although I have zero experience with them or knowledge about them.
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I did have a post about my gun to competition problem.
I never said I had to many. It was more of a joke on me and as usual spun off track.
Just as this post has. I do not want a Barretta. I was just looking for some input on the JRC 9mm. I only want it for 1 application, bowling pins at 50yds.
Thanks for remembering me though
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I just picked up the Kel Tec Sub 2000 in 9mm for $310. I took it to the range and gave it a spin. So far I like it,but I need to evaluate it better when I have more time. I was able to hit soda cans at 50yds with the factory sights. All I had for ammo was my IDPA light loads,147gr fmj w/3.3 gr of Titegroup. I had a few stove pipes,probably due to the light load.I am going to try 124gr fmj w/ 3.9 Titegroup to see if that solve the issue. The only other thing that will take some getting used to is that the sight is on the same plane as the stock. My eye does not line up easily with the sight. I am going to order the SUB-2000 Aluminum Forend Picatinny Rails and add a red dot.
Thanks, Mike
I have the KELTEC in 9mm and 40 and love them both. I have the 33 round Glock mags and the hi caps for the 40. I also have the Camp 9 with S&W 59 hi cap mags, that is fun to shoot, put a blackjack buffer in it though. I also picked up the Ruger PC-9 and again, it is a good one to shoot and probably the most accurate one, close to the camp-9. I had a phase where I wanted as many different 9mm carbines I could get a hold of that's why I have the inventory. I shoot 115 and 124 and load them up with Bluedot, 8.7 and 8 with magnum primers. Don't shoot 147 out of a carbine, just don't like it. If I had to choose one, probably the Camp 9, it's accurate, hi cap, rock solid, compact and good looking and very dependable.
I only used the 147 because thats all I had in my bag. Will magnum primers work better than standard CCI primers for 9mm ?
Congrats! How can you beat a carbine that folds up and stores in a backpack or
briefcase! I have not had any ftf or ftf's, so it probably is the light load. I only fired a small variety of factory ammunition. Let us know how the forend and red dot work out.
Back ordered. Waiting for them to reply. I just ordered these 2 items
Description
SUB-2000 Buffer Cylinder = Less recoil for long shooting days
Item# S2K-BC
$9.50 USD
SUB-2000 Bolt Tube Cover = keeps the cheek off of the steel
Item# S2K-BTC
$13.50 USD
Use a Dremel with a polishing bit, some compound and smooth out the feed ramp. This will take care of any cycling problems you may encounter with hollow point ammo.
Light reloads will definitely not have enough nut to push that spring and will result in stove pipe issues.
The biggest drawback on these guns that most people complain about is the sight. It just takes getting used to. Wrapping the tube with a few layers of hockey tape makes for easier shooting, especially in cold weather. I also avoid any accessories for the Sub 2000 as 99% of them are junk. Even the sling swivel attachment sucks. The only reason why I leave it on mine is because it is still handy if I ever want to use it.
You're better off spending the money on ammo and range time to get used to how it shoots and how to shoot it efficiently.
Sorry I didn't post earlier, hockey tape at Dicks Sporting goods is $3 for a roll. You could have used the other $10 for ammo.
