Just another day.

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Another pro-2A rally, another set of unconstitutional laws passed (in CT), some gun owners are in a grumpy mood, and today is the same as yesterday.

Politicians are still above the law of the land, and citizens still permit them to be. Ignorance and fear have once again trumped Liberty, but no one cares enough to do anything about it, because we are afraid of a little conflict, and we fear for our personal safety.

We spew our "principles" all over the internet, but when push comes to shove, we always cave. Stand up to the government?! pssshhh. That's crazy talk! I don't want to get arrested and go to jail! I want my warm bed and Netflix! Yeah, they passed some more laws, but those don't really affect me, because they're in a different state. Besides, I can always go buy some "pre-ban" mags later, even if the price is a little higher. Yeah, liberals suck and all that. But they haven't physically hurt anybody, and their heart is in the right place, so they can't be that bad, even if they are a bit misguided on these gun laws.

Violence definitely is not the answer, because that never solves anything. Plus we still have enough of a democracy....I mean....constitutional republic... that it's still not a bad place to live. I mean, yeah I work hard to get ahead, and I do have to give up 1/3 of my earnings to the government, but again, it could always be worse.

Yeah, I've got it pretty good. No need to rock the boat. I should probably get back to work.

Just another day.


Buck.
 
Violence actually solves many things every day, and very effectively. That's not to say now is the time and place, but that statement is thrown around a lot, and its demonstrably false. :D

Governments use it to great effect every day. Rofl. Sad.
 
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Another pro-2A rally, another set of unconstitutional laws passed (in CT), some gun owners are in a grumpy mood, and today is the same as yesterday.

Politicians are still above the law of the land, and citizens still permit them to be. Ignorance and fear have once again trumped Liberty, but no one cares enough to do anything about it, because we are afraid of a little conflict, and we fear for our personal safety.

We spew our "principles" all over the internet, but when push comes to shove, we always cave. Stand up to the government?! pssshhh. That's crazy talk! I don't want to get arrested and go to jail! I want my warm bed and Netflix! Yeah, they passed some more laws, but those don't really affect me, because they're in a different state. Besides, I can always go buy some "pre-ban" mags later, even if the price is a little higher. Yeah, liberals suck and all that. But they haven't physically hurt anybody, and their heart is in the right place, so they can't be that bad, even if they are a bit misguided on these gun laws.

Violence definitely is not the answer, because that never solves anything. Plus we still have enough of a democracy....I mean....constitutional republic... that it's still not a bad place to live. I mean, yeah I work hard to get ahead, and I do have to give up 1/3 of my earnings to the government, but again, it could always be worse.

Yeah, I've got it pretty good. No need to rock the boat. I should probably get back to work.

Just another day.


Buck.

no words....'enough'? 1/3? liberty? It's not good to bring this shit up the week before I get bent over a pole for my annual screwing by the IRS
 
80,000,000 Gun owners in US (I imagine this is only the legal ones - not counting gangs and criminals)

800,000 Total Local Law Enforcement count (with arrest powers)


Piss off just 1% of the gun owners and they are matched in qty.

The 3%rs in full 2,400,000 gun owners.


Keep pushing liberal/socialist/anti-constitutional crap and reap the whirlwind.

We know (and have examples) of police raids that resulted in the wrong house/wrong person/"accident"/dog (or some combination) being shot to hell. When you decide to show up on the wrong doorstep - WHAT IS A THINKING PERSON TO DO?

Then you decide to go in heavy, every time.

That 3% becomes 15% PDQ.
 
Piss off just 1% of the gun owners and they are matched in qty.

I haven't met a 1%, me included. But math/statistics can be natural law. Somewhere there's an outlier whose predator is a SWAT team that takes no prisoners.

Lots of wishful internet thinking. CA, NY, CT, MA, MD, DC, IL, CO, NJ, I must have missed a couple of them. But you see a trend. The most 'affluent' states are now antigun. Someone has posted that confiscation is next logical step. Sounds logical.
 
"You ganna bark all day, little doggie? Or are you ganna bite?"
"Lots of talk on the internet." Says the guy bitching on the internet, why don't you take the first shot?

Where the hell else is he going to rant?

Nothing pisses me off more than someone saying "Why don't you take the first shot?"
 
overheard yesterday at the rally
"our ancestors would have been shooting by now"

GMAFB tough guy. I don't see you putting holes in anyone.
 
People do have plans, and the last place you're going to hear about it is on a public Internet forum.
I think we're currently maintaining the moral high ground by showing some amazing restraint. They're being given every chance to do the right thing, and uphold their oaths. They are failing miserably, and will be held accountable in the coming days.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that just because bullets haven't started flying yet, that they won't.
 
I think we're currently maintaining the moral high ground by showing some amazing restraint. They're being given every chance to do the right thing, and uphold their oaths. They are failing miserably, and will be held accountable in the coming days.
Good point. I just got a "New Frontier" polymer lower. Still trying to figure out what that brand name implicates.
 
Yeah, like I said above I'm posting when I shouldn't be and being all dickish about it. I'm going to edit it to a dot.

Seriously, don't even worry about it. I totally understand where you're coming from. I've been there myself more often then I care to admit.

Buck.


EDIT: The OP was kind of a dickish post to begin with, and I deserved it. Apologies for getting people riled up.
 
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when does the NES militia meet for drills?

I'm GTG. [wink]

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Unless you're organizing now this sentiment is shit when it counts
that's what I am saying. no harm in having an organized and ready militia for whatever circumstances may arise (korean invasion?)

I can't think of many new englanders I'd rather have in arms beside me than NES members
 
overheard yesterday at the rally
"our ancestors would have been shooting by now"

GMAFB tough guy. I don't see you putting holes in anyone.

You are absolutely right. My OP was probably uncalled for. Last night's events in CT just put me in a (really) bad mood. The fact that Obama will be going there to grandstand just makes it worse. And even (far, far) worse than that is the fact that I am one of the suckers that fell for the "hope and change" act during the 2008 election and I voted for the bastard. (In my defense, that was about one year before I was introduced to Ron Paul, but it still doesn't excuse it).

I don't mean to diminish in any way your efforts and those of GOAL, Comm2A, and ItsTime.org. You guys are heros in my book, and you are doing far more for the cause than I am. It just frustrates me to no end when folks that put in as much time and effort as you (and GOAL and the other groups; albeit in other states) get completely steamrolled. It greatly reduces my faith that lobbying/voting alone can repair the damage that's been done to Liberty in states such as MA and, now, CT.

At any rate, please accept my apologies if I have caused offense.

Buck.
 
You didn't offend me. It's kinda the way it is. I think for many of us, it is a slow awakening...that what was formerly unthinkable is now entered the realm of possibility, but there is still a lot of resistance and even denial with regard to the idea. Currently there are only a few that are willing to make a drastic move, think American colonies circa 1770, or John Brown in 1858. Anything drastic is still premature IMO and may hopefully never happen, but that the fact it is now regarded as within the realm of possibility by a growing number of people, people who are mainstream is significant IMO.
 
Interesting thread. Let's say the Patrick Bill passes and at a specific time I become a felon for possessing a 30 round mag. Keep in mind my mags. are preban and were bought legally in MA with after tax dollars and I paid sales tax on them when I purchased them. But I'm a radical and I didn't turn them in or sell them out of state.

I could stand at the bridge at Lexington and Concord and say, "MOLON LABE." Others could stand with me, but here's why I probably won't and why you probably won't:

You and I probably won't because if we are not outright murdered on the bridge by law enforcement we will be deemed unfit and lose out LTC's and have our guns confiscated on a good day, and will all go to prison for felony whatever on a bad day.

Therefore we will STFU and take the laws that they give us.

We don't know how to take a stand, because we are by and large lawful citizens and taking a stand is essentially suicide.
 
We don't know how to take a stand, because we are by and large lawful citizens and taking a stand is essentially suicide.
Negative. It is because we are disconnected from each other and suspicious of sell-outs. Unlike the Minutemen, we are not family, we don't see each other in church every sunday and we don't live close enough to trade/barter. We are by and large, a country made up of people driving by in cars who live down the street who you don't know at all. Nobody trusts anybody, and rightfully so. We are isolated. The only thing that gets the ball rolling would be a Boston Massacre type incident perpetrated by loyalist LEO's on a group of peaceful armed 2A protesters. The chances of that are somewhat unlikely, as the system can't afford the exposure. What is likely is the continuation of the application of slow, incremental tyranny that nobody responds to because nobody is going to act alone. There is the rub. So far it is working just fine. What would change things in a hurry would be if the people who describe themselves as Patriots determined their "line in the sand" and when that had been breached, to summon up the courage to act alone. The very fact that we have not yet done so proves " that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
 
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Negative. It is because we are disconnected from each other and suspicious of sell-outs. Unlike the Minutemen, we are not family, we don't see each other in church every sunday and we don't live close enough to trade/barter. We are by and large, a country made up of people driving by in cars who live down the street who you don't know at all. Nobody trusts anybody, and rightfully so. We are isolated. The only thing that gets the ball rolling would be a Boston Massacre type incident perpetrated by loyalist LEO's on a group of peaceful armed 2A protesters. The chances of that are somewhat unlikely, as the system can't afford the exposure. What is likely is the continuation of the application of slow, incremental tyranny that nobody responds to because nobody is going to act alone. There is the rub. So far it is working just fine. What would change things in a hurry would be if the people who describe themselves as Patriots determined their "line in the sand" and when that had been breached, to summon up the courage to act alone. The very fact that we have not yet done so proves " that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."

Interesting observation about modern isolation. I suppose that is all the more reason to attend NES gatherings!

Buck.
 
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