Joe Rogan endorses Sanders

The libs here think he’s relevant.

He has higher viewership than most CNN shows. He IS relevant in a social media way. Just because you don't know him doesn't mean millions don't.

I'm no liberal. From the few episodes I've watched, Rogan seems to be a libertarian with a social nanny state lean. I can tell you, I actually thought his was a joke thread. But I've only listened/watched a half dozen of his podcasts.
 

The problem with Joe is he doesn't have consistent partisan views. So to pigeon hole him like (R)s and (D)'s want to do is hard. Conservatives don't like him mainly now due to his current endorsement. Many on the left to this day consider Joe to be alt-right (whatever the f*** that means, basically the left's version of calling the other side a commy).

Rogan does one thing very well, and that's speak his mind. A lot of his ideas are good. Some great. Plenty are retarded. Being a free thinker in todays ultra partisan society makes you an enemy to both sides rank and file. Which Joe mostly is, as is Bernie Sanders. I doubt Sanders will get the nomination as he hasnt kissed that (D) ring. I don't even think he is a Democrat normally.

Joe's said that hes never voted Republican, so I wouldnt call him one. That said I don't think he's a hard core leftist either. Joe has also gone on to say plenty of reasonably positive things about Trump personally, so he's far from being some random celebrity Trump hater.

Liking Bernie Sanders is like liking Ron Paul. Everyone will hate you for it.
 

I'd have to watch the video in question. But what I'm saying is every one I've listened to, Rogan sounds libertarian. So there must be a side of him that want's to 'help' people, but using the government, since Sander's biggest deal is free health care. It's not like he'd be the only person who's moderately 'conservative/libertarian' but has that one issue that makes everything else disappear. I know tons of people who are anti-2A but right down the libertarian ticket on everything from open immigration (let supply and demand of labor work), to low or no taxation, doing away with the nanny state. Are those people not 'conservative' just because they are not avid 2A supporters?

He's had 2A guys on his show, he's willing to talk to almost anyone who can present a decent discussion. That alone makes him different than most leftist/socialists in this country.

Edit: I went looking for the statement. I found a 51 second video of him saying he'd vote for Bernie. I also found a video of him saying he's voting for Tulsi. So, yeah. I'd say it's just a statement he figured would gin up some views. They guy probably makes a half mil every time someone clicks on his videos. Good business for him.
 
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I'd have to watch the video in question. But what I'm saying is every one I've listened to, Rogan sounds libertarian. So there must be a side of him that want's to 'help' people, but using the government, since Sander's biggest deal is free health care. It's not like he'd be the only person who's moderately 'conservative/libertarian' but has that one issue that makes everything else disappear. I know tons of people who are anti-2A but right down the libertarian ticket on everything from open immigration (let supply and demand of labor work), to low or no taxation, doing away with the nanny state. Are those people not 'conservative' just because they are not avid 2A supporters?

He's had 2A guys on his show, he's willing to talk to almost anyone who can present a decent discussion. That alone makes him different than most leftist/socialists in this country.

Edit: I went looking for the statement. I found a 51 second video of him saying he'd vote for Bernie. I also found a video of him saying he's voting for Tulsi. So, yeah. I'd say it's just a statement he figured would gin up some views. They guy probably makes a half mil every time someone clicks on his videos. Good business for him.

Hes had Tulsi on the show quite a bit, so his endorsement of her early on made sense. Now that shes basically about to drop out, he's going onto the next candidate. Tulsi is kyroptonite to both mainstream dems and repblicans. Whereas at least Sanders is liked by the young (D) base and who knows what the older (D) base wants, probably just electability and not worried about actual issues.
 
Hes had Tulsi on the show quite a bit, so his endorsement of her early on made sense. Now that shes basically about to drop out, he's going onto the next candidate. Tulsi is kyroptonite to both mainstream dems and repblicans. Whereas at least Sanders is liked by the young (D) base and who knows what the older (D) base wants, probably just electability and not worried about actual issues.

Pretty much everyone else either has no chance, or has flip flopped all over the place. That leaves Bernie for someone with some standard of wanting a 'decent' person to vote for. Bernie's a lazy POS, but he's not an absolute dirtbag like Biden. The left calling Trump a criminal must live in houses with no mirrors.
 
Pretty much everyone else either has no chance, or has flip flopped all over the place. That leaves Bernie for someone with some standard of wanting a 'decent' person to vote for. Bernie's a lazy POS, but he's not an absolute dirtbag like Biden. The left calling Trump a criminal must live in houses with no mirrors.

I wouldn't call him lazy considering all the shit he's doing and how old he is.

Just because most of us disagree with him doesn't mean we need to make up lies.
 
The conservative sycophants of NES never fail to deliver.

I like Joe Rogan’s podcast. He has a really wide range of guests on which is appealing. It can be purely a comedy show or deal with some pretty serious stuff. His shows with Gabbard and Andrew Yang were interesting because his long form broadcast style allowed them to talk about lots of things in detail. The show with Bernie was pretty good for like 30-45 minutes but the conversation just kept circling back to universal health care and “free” college.

I definitely dont agree with a lot of the people above believe, but Rogan definitely gave them a fair shake and takes people to task when they start spewing bullshit.

The “Joe who?” crowd is laughable. Sorry he doesnt share your every belief, and sorry hes chosen a variety of media that didnt exist in 1978. Adapting as society changes is important.
 
I wouldn't call him lazy considering all the shit he's doing and how old he is.

Just because most of us disagree with him doesn't mean we need to make up lies.

He’s lived off the taxpayers his entire life and he never held down a real job. He may not be lazy but he’s done nothing productive.
 
I work with an SJW who digs guns. They do exist, but they're rare. This guy doesn't buy the idea that the left wants to grab his guns, or at least thinks it's not practical that they'll actually do it.

I'm not with him on that first part, but he might be right about the second.

He's got some nice stuff, actually. His father was FBI, I think, so he's getting a lot of his dad's old pieces. But yeah, he also runs a blog that reads like it might as well have been written by Elizabeth Warren, and he does volunteer for Dem campaigns.

He's a Bernie guy, too.

I have a friend like that, just had the “they’re not coming for your guns” conversation w him the other day. He seemed to acknowledge that just because they haven’t doesn’t mean they are trying or planning to. Then we laughed about the AR he got a while back, he says he thinks they should be banned but that since they’re out there that he should also have one... and because they told him he couldn’t have one, he got one 😂😂😂
 
I wouldn't call him lazy considering all the shit he's doing and how old he is.

Just because most of us disagree with him doesn't mean we need to make up lies.

He's lazy because he's never done anything noteworthy but be a politician his entire adult life. I'm sure he's doing things, but I have issues with anyone who's entire life is related to being a politician.
 
Honestly, only STEM degrees should be compensated for.
He has higher viewership than most CNN shows. He IS relevant in a social media way. Just because you don't know him doesn't mean millions don't.

I'm no liberal. From the few episodes I've watched, Rogan seems to be a libertarian with a social nanny state lean. I can tell you, I actually thought his was a joke thread. But I've only listened/watched a half dozen of his podcasts.

social state libertarian. That’s like a black Swede.

He’s lived off the taxpayers his entire life and he never held down a real job. He may not be lazy but he’s done nothing productive.

2.5M net worth. Shocking he hasn’t been so forthcoming in spending his OWN money for the causes he believes in. “The tax rate is too low yet I’ve yet to pay any extra.”
 
And a majority of them are useless.

Eh. Country is working decently
I have a friend like that, just had the “they’re not coming for your guns” conversation w him the other day. He seemed to acknowledge that just because they haven’t doesn’t mean they are trying or planning to. Then we laughed about the AR he got a while back, he says he thinks they should be banned but that since they’re out there that he should also have one... and because they told him he couldn’t have one, he got one 😂😂😂

It's not even possible to make the gaslight special they aren't coming for you anymore.


This cards have been shown.
 
The one thing about Bernie is he doesn't hide the ball unlike most politicians.

This. I believe a ton of Bernie supporters don't agree 100% with his policies as much as his what he says is what you get. No surprises, no changes, not going to tell you something a little more to your liking to get your vote. You know EXACTLY what you are getting.

If he says, 'free college for all', he doesn't come back at a later time and say, 'what i really meant was a year of extended high school that we call college' or some other qualification. He says, 'no, i meant free college for all.' If you don't like it, don't vote for me, or run for office yourself.
 
I have a friend like that, just had the “they’re not coming for your guns” conversation w him the other day. He seemed to acknowledge that just because they haven’t doesn’t mean they are trying or planning to. Then we laughed about the AR he got a while back, he says he thinks they should be banned but that since they’re out there that he should also have one... and because they told him he couldn’t have one, he got one 😂😂😂

So a Progressive Socialist.

"I believe in X. But I want it for YOU." Same reason Bernie isn't giving all of his millions to pay for college or support young working wimmins or nothing. He wants YOUR money to do it, not his.


Everyone's a fascist as long as their little thing can still be free. AR15. Joe Rogan and his libertarian weed smoking. "Oh, make everyone pay to support whatever, but as long as I get my little thing, I'm 100% against freedom! Down with Freedom!"
 
Who cares who he likes? I mean really, do you know even a single person who changed their mind on who they would vote for based on someone else's endorsement?

I don't know if it is 10% of the country or 50%, but some very large % of the county's population vote based on what the guy on the pulpit on Sunday morning's tells them to do.
 
Liking Bernie Sanders is like liking Ron Paul. Everyone will hate you for it.

Lol not sure if serious, but Sanders is exponentially more in line with being a stereotypical D than RP is with being a strereotypical R.

The only thing Sanders is off on the D platform is middle america Ds still like bombing brown people to feel safe, other than that, he's right up their alley on nearly everything
else.

Also let's not go into meaningless promise weeds territory. For example you might say "well sanders yaps about free college and joe biden doesnt" but that bullshit is basically
meaningless, because even if he is elected, it's never happening. Vermin Supreme even sort of lampoons this bullshit on his own platform, with the whole "Everyone Gets a Pony" thing. He's basically mocking this default political tendency among any presidential candidate. Promising something that's basically impossible. Candidates promise all kinds of stupid shit but there's very little chance any of it is realistic. It's like when Ron Paul says he wants to end the fed. Even if he was President the federal reserve just being "switched off" isn't
happening. All of that trash is the presidential equivalent of this:



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx217LaYiqM



[rofl]

Smart people realize this, but every candidate sucks for it, because being realistic doesn't make people excited.

ETA: Or if we were going to convert this into a Trumpism, it's like when he started talking about Mexico paying for the wall. Anyone with one brain cell knew that was never happening from day 1.

-Mike
 
I don't know if it is 10% of the country or 50%, but some very large % of the county's population vote based on what the guy on the pulpit on Sunday morning's tells them to do.

Obviously not because otherwise Trump wouldn't have won the GOP nomination. Ted Cruz was out Jesus Juicin and it basically cost him the nomination.

-Mike
 
Lol not sure if serious, but Sanders is exponentially more in line with being a stereotypical D than RP is with being a strereotypical R.

The only thing Sanders is off on the D platform is middle america Ds still like bombing brown people to feel safe, other than that, he's right up their alley on nearly everything
else.

Also let's not go into meaningless promise weeds territory. For example you might say "well sanders yaps about free college and joe biden doesnt" but that bullshit is basically
meaningless, because even if he is elected, it's never happening. Vermin Supreme even sort of lampoons this bullshit on his own platform, with the whole "Everyone Gets a Pony" thing. He's basically mocking this default political tendency among any presidential candidate. Promising something that's basically impossible. Candidates promise all kinds of stupid shit but there's very little chance any of it is realistic. It's like when Ron Paul says he wants to end the fed. Even if he was President the federal reserve just being "switched off" isn't
happening. All of that trash is the presidential equivalent of this:



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx217LaYiqM



[rofl]

Smart people realize this, but every candidate sucks for it, because being realistic doesn't make people excited.

ETA: Or if we were going to convert this into a Trumpism, it's like when he started talking about Mexico paying for the wall. Anyone with one brain cell knew that was never happening from day 1.

-Mike


It's probably going to happen, though. And the reason is the youngins don't like what they grew into and I suspect a lot of them will remember how lame it was. Since most of the shot callers now didn't have any of these generationally new experiences, it won't happen on their time. But I suspect it will in the future.

Sanders does say a lot of things that arent possible. So does Trump, my boy RP and basically everyone that gets this far in the race. Things are going to change one way or another though.

Shit, I hold no student loans and I don't have problems with finding healthcare. Even though these arent problems I face it doesn't mean I can't devils advocate why people support them. Politics shouldn't be an exercise in conflict of interest mega bonus land where we f*** each other as hard as we can for our personal gain. Shit needs to get done. And a lot of shit needs to get re-prioritized.
 
The old good-of-the-nation. You're in the wrong country. Try Scandinavia. EVERYONE is partisan based on what they want personally. But the problem with the two issues you brought up aren't the problems themselves but the crappy moronic 3-brain-cell solutions they've foisted upon us. How about SOLVING a problem?? Oh yeah. Scandinavia. Nevermind.
 
Meh, I still enjoy Joe Rogan cause he seems like an all-around good guy who tribalists on the left and right hate. He's friends with Ben Shapiro and he's friends with leftist commentators pretty equally. He interviews such a fascinating broad array of people, so I'll continue to listen. He is pretty liberal, and pretty vocally 2A, but certainly not as absolutist as most of NES. This also may come as a shock to you, but not everyone is a one issue voter. Furthermore, Republicans, just as quickly as democrats, will shove the big dick of Statism right up your ass without a second thought. He also is very anti SJW. His philosophy is essentially anti foreign intervention, pro safety-net, pro gun, anti-SJW, 1A absolutist. He's a big hunter, conservationist, etc, who probably agrees with most of you that society has become too soft. His "endorsement" for Bernie was probably 50% because of his policies and 50% cause he doesn't think Bernie is an absolute scumbag of a human being. I probably agree with the ladder, I think he's probably a nice guy who is a bit of an idiot... who I wouldn't vote for in a million years.

The "Joe Who" crowd are just like the "face-what" crowd. You can close your eyes to how the world around you is changing, but that just means you'll get left behind. You don't need to embrace podcasts and social media, but plugging your ears to it doesn't make it go away. JRE has 10s of millions of followers.

Could not have said it better myself. [thumbsup]
 
The old good-of-the-nation. You're in the wrong country. Try Scandinavia. EVERYONE is partisan based on what they want personally. But the problem with the two issues you brought up aren't the problems themselves but the crappy moronic 3-brain-cell solutions they've foisted upon us. How about SOLVING a problem?? Oh yeah. Scandinavia. Nevermind.


The conservative base is in for major problems if they don't shake off the dust and get over the lie of muh bootstraps.

if the (D)'s weren't so dogmatic on things like personal liberty specifically around firearms and avoided race baiting I don't even see how the Republican party could remain relevant. Trump won because he's an outsider, tells people off and says it like he sees it. Which was a refreshing break from complete f***ing sociopath a**h***s like Clinton. What Republican is going to replace Trump in 5 years? I have absolutely no idea.

We all like to talk the big game about the importance of keeping (R)'s in office. Well, in terms of 2A support there has been next to zero. When the (R)'s had a super majority they took zero steps to actually pass anything that would break up all the old legacy f***ing bullshit that was laid on us, some of which was put in by (R)'s. And the conservative SCOTUS still to this day continues to refuse to hear meaningful 2A cases and takes completely moronic cases like this NYC case as a freebie while ignoring cases that are vastly more important to the right in terms of militia service. The one thing the conservative SCOTUS has done is jam draconian police state bullshit straight up our asses though on several recent occasions.

And here we have Trump. Every (R) member on NES has clearly forgotten that Trump is THE reason that bump stocks got banned. And the problem with that is how he went about it and the unbelievably bad precedent that his decision has set. He was about to do it to for suppressors until one of his handlers finally pulled him in and told him to shut the f*** up about it.

I've been reading it on NES for 12 years. (R)'s are better off, etc etc. We should keep telling ourselves that.
 
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