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Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Big_Red, Apr 30, 2009.
Holy sh*t! That's quite possibly the worst response to a concerned consumer that I've ever seen. I can't say I'm "just about" to buy a shed, but it honestly is something that I think about from time to time. What I can say is that if and when I do decide to buy one it sure as hell won't be from Reeds Ferry.
Here is my email to Reeds.
You know what, I'm going to start a separate thread on Reeds Ferry to make sure everyone knows what they think of the WTKK listeners.
Some more unique than others!!!
Great comment. I hope they write back.
Put me in the category of, no current plans to buy a shed, but if/when I do, it WON'T be from them.
OMG thats just priceless
In some way you have to admire their pure unfettered capitalism. We will sell to anyone. We advertize where people can hear our ads we don't care what they are talking about in the mean time as long as folks can hear our ads and we can sell our products.
Not sure its going to work out so well in the real world but it is an interesting point of view
What a moron, there is definitely a right and wrong way to go about customer service, and he just failed.
How about an NES shed shoot this year?
Please post in this thread your comments about Reeds Ferry.
I'll email Bill the link later to let him know what an outstanding job he's done.
I love ticked off Marines.
That is the best object lesson in customer service I have ever seen. Bravo.
I will never buy from Reed Ferry.... And I REALLY WAS going to buy a shed this weekend
Derek - thanks for posting the other thread and I hope you do send the links to this jerk at the end of the day. While I can appreciate the capitalist part, the insulting nature was just too much. He can say anything he wants, but actions have consequences.
I can't claim to need a shed, I already have one. That said, I would never buy from them and if I do know anybody on the market I would make it a point to throw them under the bus.
Response from media right:
I sent the same exact message that lord wrote.
Post pics after you get it, that will really grind it in.
Heh, every time someone buys a shed they should send the pic and happy new testimonial to Reeds Ferry...
Very true. I listen to Jay and I mostly agree with him. I think he undermines his message sometime with rhetoric that is too low-brow, but he speaks the truth for the most part.
He seems to be the only one pointing out the reality of the illegal immigration problem. First, the media is blowing swine flu WAY out of proportion. However, the degree to which they are doing that, they are NOT acknowledging that 5000+ illegals come in from Mexico every single day, and we continue to do nothing about that. You'd think that if there were real cause for panic about swine flu, it might even turn the liberals to think that for practical purposes the borders should be protected... apparently not though.
Nice post and I agree 100%
I sent them one and told them I was planning on checking them out to buy a new shed - I honestly WAS going to. Ours is needing a lot of TLC and I don't have the time or energy to help Ed build a new one. That's getting posted in the new thread.
Talk about ways to increase your customer base.
Well, I was not about to buy a shed. I am cool with the idea that they will sell a shed to anybody. OTOH, the Reeds Ferry guy was an incredible douche, so on the off chance I ever need a shed to further my right wing nut-job lifestyle in, it will not be a Reeds shed.
Here is the reply I received from WTTK
"Thank you for your e-mail regarding Jay Severin. We value your input and welcome your feedback. Please be assured that WTKK and Greater Media value an open and vigorous dialogue, but we also adhere to basic principles of civility, common decency and respect for all cultures. We believe Jay’s suspension is the best way to uphold both of these corporate policies.
canned response-- but it is still better than reeds
I received a response from the Program Director at WTKK:
At least it was better than Reed Ferry's response!
While still not what we wanted to hear, talk about "proper wording"
Here's the real reason Jay was let go.... PC in the Media.
Amid swine flu outbreak, racism goes viral
Anti-immigrant hatred spreads on talk radio, Web sites
Is GOP playing fear factor with swine flu?
By Brian Alexander
updated 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
“No contact anywhere with an illegal alien!” conservative talk show host Michael Savage advised his U.S. listeners this week on how to avoid the swine flu. “And that starts in the restaurants" where he said, you “don’t know if they wipe their behinds with their hands!”
And Thursday, Boston talk radio host Jay Severin was suspended after calling Mexican immigrants "criminalians" during a discussion of swine flu and saying that emergency rooms had become "essentially condos for Mexicans."
That’s tepid compared to some of the xenophobic reactions spreading like an emerging virus across the Internet. “This disgusting blight is because MEXICANS ARE PIGS!” an anonymous poster ranted on the “prison planet” forum, part of radio host and columnist Alex Jones’ Web site.
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There is even talk of conspiracy. Savage speculated that terrorists are using Mexican immigrants as walking germ warfare weapons. “It would be easy,” he said, “to bring an altered virus into Mexico, put it in the general population, and have them march across the border.”
As more than 140 cases of H1N1 virus, known as swine flu, have been confirmed across the United States — from San Diego to New York City — the growing public health concern has also exposed fear and hate.
Fear and blame are counterproductive and even dangerous in any disease outbreak because the more stigmatized any group feels, the more reluctant people in that group may be to seek medical care. That only helps propagate the disease.
The attempt to scapegoat Mexicans, immigrants and Hispanic Americans is no surprise to Latino rights groups, who are now mobilizing a countereffort.
‘Ignorant beyond the pale’
Angelica Salas, executive director of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles, called such comments “racist and ignorant beyond the pale … these so-called commentators shame themselves turning public health concerns into an immigrant bashing fest.”
“What we have seen is that the anti-immigrant groups are using this to shamelessly to promote their agenda,” said Liany Arroyo, director of the Institute for Hispanic Health at the National Council of La Raza.
While the war of words is mainly between the conservative commentariat and Latino advocacy groups, individual Mexican-Americas are beginning to worry.
“Our people are calling us and they are concerned,” said Florencia Velasco Fortner, chief executive officer of Dallas Consilio of Hispanic Organizations, an umbrella of affiliated service groups. “Even our staff members are starting to get a little discouraged. There was anti-immigrant sentiment prior to this and this adds fuel to the fire.”
The Consilio has mounted its own education campaign to teach Dallas-area Hispanic audiences proper disease prevention and hygiene techniques. Because many are uninsured and may avoid seeking medical care, the Consilio is also helping them find non-profit clinics and encouraging them to visit these immediately if they develop symptoms rather than waiting until they are severely ill.
As swine flu fears have spread, the backlash has also affected some Mexican restaurants’ business, possibly fueled by disparaging comments like those of Savage questioning the hygiene of workers.
Jennifer Pesqueira, whose family has owned and operated El Indio Mexican restaurants in San Diego since 1940, said her business has seen a 20 percent drop in business since the outbreak began.
Activist groups have advised their communities to be aware and on guard. “Board members put an alert out,” said Jan Hanvik, executive director of Clemente Soto Velez Cultural and Educational Center in New York. “It was a heads up, saying ‘pay attention.’ ”
Fearmongering and blame are almost a natural part of infectious disease epidemics, experts say.
“This is a pattern we see again and again,” said Amy Fairchild, chair of sociomedical sciences at Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health in New York City. “It’s ‘the other,’ the group not seen as part of the nation, the one who threatens it in some way that gets blamed for the disease.”
Often, a disease outbreak is an excuse to vent pre-existing prejudices. “It’s fear of people we do not know or who look different,” said Dr. Howard Markel, a medical historian at the University of Michigan and author of “When Germs Travel: Six Major Epidemics That Have Invaded America Since 1900 and the Fears They Have Unleashed.” “You take the fear of the unknown that already exists and then combine that with a real or perceived threat that is contagious disease and it’s explosive.”
During the medieval Black Plague, Europeans blamed Jews, saying they poisoned the wells. In an 1892 cholera pandemic, the U.S. blamed immigrant European Jews. In the flu of 1918, Markel said, “Italians blamed the Spanish. The Spanish blamed the Italians. For HIV it was gay men and Haitians.”
Americans “have a history of trying to keep ourselves ‘pure,’ ” Fairchild explained. “You saw it after the Civil War when slaves were denied citizenship, in the late 19th and early 20th centuries when we were alarmed over southern and eastern European immigrants. There were fears that they would pollute America’s germ plasm, make us a weak nation of imbeciles.”
Americans have time and again responded to emergencies by clamoring to shut the borders and pull up the bridges.
“I’ve blogged for years about the spread of contagious diseases from around the world into the U.S. as a result of uncontrolled immigration,” conservative columnist Michelle Malkin wrote on her Web site. “9/11 didn’t convince the open-borders zealots to put down their race cards and confront reality. Maybe the threat of their sons or daughters contracting a deadly virus spread from south of the border to their Manhattan prep schools will.” (The cluster of New York school students who first contracted H1N1 brought the virus back from Mexico. The school is in Queens.)
“People who do not really know anything are creating ideas that don’t really exist,” said Sergio Ornelas, owner of a bi-national publishing and advertising business in El Paso. “I am worried these kinds of articles and comments might create panic.”
Blame-the-victim reactions can be fought with clear, accurate information about the disease and about how it is spreading, said Dr. Larry Kline, a San Diego physician and member of the United States-Mexico Border Health Commission. “People get snippets of information here and there, and unfortunately much of it is inaccurate. That makes things ripe for blame and blame and fear never helped anybody.”
Tamping down blame and fear isn’t just the right thing to do morally, experts agree, it’s also the right thing to do medically. Germs, Markel stressed, don’t care about skin color or national origins or borders.
“These are naturally occurring events,” he said. “We expect flu pandemics every 30 to 40 years. It’s the cost of living in a world of emerging infectious diseases. That’s the folly of prejudice. They are wherever humans are.”
Potential lawsuits from Latino Special Interest Groups.
That ... explains a lot.
Doesn't excuse it, but it does help to explain.
They succesfully neutered the Taco Bell Chihuahua because it had a Mexican sounding accent. (whoda thunkit, Tacos and Mexicans getting lumped together in an ad campaign).
The "xenophobic" reactions are tthe end result of our government's refusal to do anything about illegal immigration. We're finally seeing the results of the unregulated tsunami of illegal immigrants that have been flooding our country for the past 30 years.
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