Jackson v San Francisco Why is it different than here?

[Ben Cartwright SASS]

I was reading in America's First Freedom about Jackson v. San Francisco suit. This is where he is suing based on the fact that SF requires a gun to be locked at all times in the home unless being carried on your person, i.e. under your direct control. They are suing based on the ordinance contradicting the Heller decision.
Isn't that what we have here? If I am cleaning my gun at the kitchen table and answer the door leaving the disassembled gun on the table I can get arrested for having an unsecured gun, not under my direct control if it is a cop at the door (I have heard it HAS happened)

Do you (Knuckle dragger) ever see that happening here?

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

I actually think that the SF law challenged in Jackson is effectively identical to the MA safe storage law. The original case also challenged the SF ban on hollow points or SD ammunition. That part was dropped when they petitioned SCOTUS.

I'd be very surprised if SCOTUS grants cert in this case, but you never know. If they do we'll jump in with an amicus.

 

[Ben Cartwright SASS]

KnuckleDragger
have you gotten the board to the slopes with all this white crap?

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

This case has been scheduled for Friday's conference. We may know next week if SCOTUS takes this case up or passes (most likely).

Espanola Jackson, et al., Petitioner
v.
City and County of San Francisco, California, et al.

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

This case has been scheduled for Friday's conference. We may know next week if SCOTUS takes this case up or passes (most likely).

Espanola Jackson, et al., Petitioner
v.
City and County of San Francisco, California, et al.

This got pulled from Friday's conference and is being rescheduled. That might be good.

 

[SemiAutoSam]

If this case is won mass gun owners can use it (equal protection under the law / full faith a credit)

Must have standing however!

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Relisted for Friday's conference.

 

[Squire]

KnuckleDragger
have you gotten the board to the slopes with all this white crap?

At first I thought this was some legal court proceeding mumbo jumbo, but then realized you were talk about snow boarding!

Watching to see updates on the outcome of this:

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

At first I thought this was some legal court proceeding mumbo jumbo, but then realized you were talk about snow boarding!

Watching to see updates on the outcome of this:

My screen name does have meaning, just not what most people assume. And yes, I earned my name this past season!

 

[pastera]

If this case is won mass gun owners can use it (equal protection under the law / full faith a credit)

Must have standing however!

I think not as the plaintiffs are pleading that Mass laws allow for leaving an unlocked handgun by the bedside.

If the court spells out that close proximity is the same as possession in their decision, then it may help us some but won't be a reversal of the storage laws.

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

NOT in today's orders list. That's good. Now we just have to wait to see if it's re-listed.

 

[RImike]

My screen name does have meaning, just not what most people assume. And yes, I earned my name this past season!

Snowboarder right?

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Snowboarder right?

 

[M1911]

I think not as the plaintiffs are pleading that Mass laws allow for leaving an unlocked handgun by the bedside.

Well that's interesting. How do they justify that?

ETA:

Holy CRAP! Look at the case files on this case:

http://michellawyers.com/guncasetracker/jacksonvsanfran/

 

[RImike]

Well that's interesting. How do they justify that?

ETA:

Holy CRAP! Look at the case files on this case:

http://michellawyers.com/guncasetracker/jacksonvsanfran/

Wow, didn't realize it went back to 2009.

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Relisted for the May 1 conference. The longer they kick this can down the road, the better......

 

[Palladin]

https://www.firearmspolicy.org/news...lings-rules-seventh-circuit-court-of-appeals/

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Re-listed for the May 14th conference. At least someone is taking the time to think this one over......

 

[terraformer]

Orders came out this morning and Jackson wasn't on the list. That means it will likely get relisted for another conference. I am shocked they are looking at this case so closely. We didn't think the cert petition was all that good.

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Orders came out this morning and Jackson wasn't on the list. That means it will likely get relisted for another conference. I am shocked they are looking at this case so closely. We didn't think the cert petition was all that good.

This is very good.

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Jackson is not on today's Order List either.

 

[dixidawg]

Which means they still haven't denied it?

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Which means they still haven't denied it?

Correct, it is still in play. The conventional wisdom is that the longer this goes on, the better.

 

[terraformer]

Correct, it is still in play. The conventional wisdom is that the longer this goes on, the better.

Blackman is thinking someone is working on a dissent on a cert denial. It's highly unlikely a written dissent would be taking this long. They are remarkably short usually. It's frankly just as likely that a per curiam is coming. Regardless of what happens, it is obvious they are looking very carefully at this. I am starting to kick myself for not having us write a separate cert amicus outside of the one we joined. Then again, anything I would have proposed would have likely made it more likely they denied cert so all in all, I am happy with this playing out the way it has.

 

[pochito413]

is it on todays list or did it get pushed back more. see on the link you posted its distributed for conference on may 28. that's the last update on the site

 

[terraformer]

is it on todays list or did it get pushed back more. see on the link you posted its distributed for conference on may 28. that's the last update on the site

That's it. It's on todays list. We find out more on Monday.

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

is it on todays list or did it get pushed back more. see on the link you posted its distributed for conference on may 28. that's the last update on the site

In that case we wait for the next Order List. That will probably be Monday.

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Jackson was NOT included in yesterday's orders. Relisted for Conference on Thursday June 4. Somebody is paying attention to this petition.

 

[dixidawg]

Did anything happen yesterday?

 

[terraformer]

Did anything happen yesterday?

Sure. Anything happens everyday.

Won't know until Monday.