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‘I’ll see your “friend is black” and raise you a “my son is black.”
i call...my ex gf of 25 years was black. probably still is... for the record she always said i was the most racist person she knew, yeah, for real but i don't see it. (he smiles as he rakes in the pot)
 

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Just last week I was in the parking lot of a local section 8 housing and I was parked between a Hummer H3 and a brand new (sticker still on the window ) Toyota mini van.
I was on the phone to a coworker saying WTF are we doing wrong ?
My wife and I always say, why are we not ruling the world?
However, we do not owe a dime to anyone and have cash and ammo!
I would love to see their financials.
 

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My wife and I always say, why are we not ruling the world?
However, we do not owe a dime to anyone and have cash and ammo!
I would love to see their financials.
Yeah well, you can't take it with you. My wife's family on both sides are a mix of olde New England Yankees, Sephardic and European Jews. They all live like the proverbial church mice. I'm the opposite, I have no wish to be followed to the cemetery by a Brinks truck.

So...that was all a roundabout way of saying when stupid people provide free money, what is so bad about taking it?
 

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Yeah well, you can't take it with you. My wife's family on both sides are a mix of olde New England Yankees, Sephardic and European Jews. They all live like the proverbial church mice. I'm the opposite, I have no wish to be followed to the cemetery by a Brinks truck.

So...that was all a roundabout way of saying when stupid people provide free money, what is so bad about taking it?
So you are saying I should buy stuff I can't afford and max out all my credit cards? Let someone else deal with it when I croak?
 

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Yeah well, you can't take it with you. My wife's family on both sides are a mix of olde New England Yankees, Sephardic and European Jews. They all live like the proverbial church mice. I'm the opposite, I have no wish to be followed to the cemetery by a Brinks truck.

So...that was all a roundabout way of saying when stupid people provide free money, what is so bad about taking it?
Last time I checked - I wasn't providing the free money willingly.
 

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Last time I checked - I wasn't providing the free money willingly.
I understand. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and Western countries have all managed to create an enormous wasteful welfare state. Is it surprising that some people take what's on offer? That's all I'm saying.
 

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I understand. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and Western countries have all managed to create an enormous wasteful welfare state. Is it surprising that some people take what's on offer? That's all I'm saying.
True - but the people who actually made up the society before that welfare state was instituted, probably would not have taken the money. Or maybe more properly said: the people who made that society strong - would not have taken the money.

When I was a kid - this was probably the early to mid 70s, my cousin's house burned down. They lived up in Barnstead NH - and had an old farmhouse. His father had been a tank commander during WW2 with Patton's army. Fought his way across Europe. Well when the house burned down - we put together a box of stuff to send to them - because they had lost everything. Thing was - they really didn't want "charity". So it was hard to get them to take the stuff. Turns out they all (he had 3 brothers and a sister) - lived in the back room of the gas station that the father ran in town - for like a year until they could get the house rebuilt.

There are still some people who are sort of like that. They simply won't take welfare, but I think the number has gotten smaller and smaller over the decades. I personally think that's because the society in general and the government has ACTIVELY made it harder and harder to not just join in the welfare bandwagon.

I remember a few years back Nancy Pelosi's daughter did a documentary about welfare in this country. Even still - she found there were vast differences between different classes of people who took it. In NYC - she interviewed a lot of black people - and in general their attitude was that they "deserved" it. So this wasn't a case of "taking it because it was free" - it was far beyond that. But she also found poor rural white people in places like Kentucky and Alabama - who did have the "just taking it because it's free" attitude. If I remember correctly in fact they actually thought the welfare was wrong - and when asked what they'd do if it was gone they answered something like " go back to surviving like we always have", but figured if the government was handing out free cheese and everybody else was gorging at the trough - it was just stupid to not sign up and get some too.

All that welfare and socialism is coming to an end. So it will be quite "interesting" to watch what happens as the money dries up. Martin Armstrong has been writing about this for a while - people are missing the larger trend: the welfare state is dying. For right now - the checks might be going out, but that will taper off quite substantially going forward over the next decade or two. All of the rioting and BLM nonsense is going to have the effect that white people are going to be a LOT less willing to fund the black welfare class's subsistence going forward I think.
 

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I think its also important to note that flashy material items are a staple of poor people. Lines of credit are easy to get and if these people were planning for the future...well needless to say we wouldnt have generations of welfare recipients. Ignorant gibbums of all backgrounds dont care about their credit score, bank account or the roaches living under the fridge in their free housing. It is a mindset that hardworking honorable people with plans for decades out will never understand.
Think of what you could have if someone else was paying for all of life's needs.
No mortgage
No food bills
Water
Heat
Electricity
Clothing
Education
Taxes
I recall reading that an average person works six months a year for the government.
Which includes supplying the leeches that never lift a finger.
 

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The red part is *mostly* true.

We lost in Vietnam - because we were a foreign power fighting against a relatively popular uprising - and our ostensible allies were run a completely corrupt political class. In addition to that - our own political class was/is - riddled with commie sympathizers, which tempered the full-on military response we might otherwise have been able to engage in. So................. not sure if the failure there could properly be ascribed to not being able to fight communism - with a gun. I still think that the US should not have gotten involved in the Vietnam war. Korea? Yeah - ok..... we didn't "win" against the commies in the northern half of the country - the won there. But we did keep the entire peninsula from going full bore commie - thru military action.

And lastly - you forgot Pinochet. Chucking people out of helicopters and disappearing them apparently DID work to keep the commies at bay in that country - at least for a while (my understanding is that they're creeping back lately).

You also forgot about Franco. The rightists in Spain did beat back the commies and Franco ruled for decades.

One of the interesting things about Pinochet and Franco - is that our US left wing has deified and written and sung constantly about los desperacidos and the "tyranny" in Franco's Spain. I still remember the pretty much non-stop left wing drumbeat of bad press about Franco's Spain and Pinochet - even up into the 1980s. They were still churning out books and plays and articles in the newspapers about how "bad" everything was.

Meanwhile - the Soviet Union was bad, but nowhere near as much ink was spilled talking about the Gulag system and it's deaths.
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I understand. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and Western countries have all managed to create an enormous wasteful welfare state. Is it surprising that some people take what's on offer? That's all I'm saying.
When you are poor, you take everything you can get. Nothing wrong with that. When I was in the refugee camp nice older ladies provided us with piles of clothing. Most of it was very fashionable. You could see us, undesirables, wearing camel hair coats while working illegally on construction sites. Bystanders thought we were "inspectors".
 

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One thing to be mindful of is most of this "race issue" is being perpetrated by MSM bullshit and a bunch of virtue signaling white people. If there was a real widespread race discontent thing in this country, most of it would already be burning, not just a bunch of liberal big dump cities where the government freely allows people to run around like animals destroying shit, simply because they don't like the sitting president.... a huge part of this whole thing is a big AstroTurf job. It's present even at the protests and riots, the white mooonbats outnumber black people like 20 to 1 at a lot of them.

The dangerous thing about this bullshit is it doesn't take much more than that to cause an actual problem, look at like what the Bolsheviks did, etc.. and so on. You don't even need a simple majority to f*** a country up.

FIFY.
 

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My wife and I always say, why are we not ruling the world?
However, we do not owe a dime to anyone and have cash and ammo!
I would love to see their financials.
Anybody can borrow money.....the reality of life and real question is who has the intent to pay it back under the contract.

Anyone can live well beyond their means.....but you are always subject to the repo man arriving at 0300 to tow your vehicle and its contents away or the bank letter saying they are foreclosing on your house because of non payment of the mortgage.

Money was never supposed to be easily available or borrowed......the easy availability of money to people with no intent and no means to repay completely fvcked those who actually had means and intent to repay.
I own almost everything possess....I only owe on some land and pay twice the billed requirement with every payment made....Nobody holds me over a barrel for any material item.

The rate at which money was made available to people with no means and no intent to repay is disgusting or should be to any honest person with even a minimal amount of integrity.
 

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Think of what you could have if someone else was paying for all of life's needs.
No mortgage
No food bills
Water
Heat
Electricity
Clothing
Education
Taxes
I recall reading that an average person works six months a year for the government.
Which includes supplying the leeches that never lift a finger.
THIS
Think of what you could have if someone else was paying for all of life's needs.

Let's play devil's advocate now. When I was living in the communism I never paid a penny for:
1. Health Insurance
2. Education
Rent, public transportation and utilities were all heavily subsidized so the amount I ended up paying was negligible.

The only caveat was that to get a phone you had to wait 6 years, car was 10 years waiting time, and apartment was 15.
Hospitals required you to bring your own toilet paper and many surgeries, procedures and treatments simply did not exist because government could not afford them.

Idiots wanting communism here have no clue what they are asking for. The distribution of wealth will last barely for few years and after that masses pretend to work and government pretends to care.
 

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So you could have a black son you just don't know about? How stereotypical.
well, no. i actually have an education...stayed in school...also, paid attention during sex education and in particular the birth control segment. didn't take time off from high school to go murder, rape and plunder then go home and f*** my bitch and cry how the cracker holds me down under his thumb and i can't learn anything cause mathematics is too white....
 

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THIS
Think of what you could have if someone else was paying for all of life's needs.

Let's play devil's advocate now. When I was living in the communism I never paid a penny for:
1. Health Insurance
2. Education
Rent, public transportation and utilities were all heavily subsidized so the amount I ended up paying was negligible.

The only caveat was that to get a phone you had to wait 6 years, car was 10 years waiting time, and apartment was 15.
Hospitals required you to bring your own toilet paper and many surgeries, procedures and treatments simply did not exist because government could not afford them.

Idiots wanting communism here have no clue what they are asking for. The distribution of wealth will last barely for few years and after that masses pretend to work and government pretends to care.
You paid for it one way or another though didn't you ?
I've had this discussion with clueless people about the meaning of "Free " .
Some will never get it.
 

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All true.

But the insanity seems to have spread far beyond just the Twitterverse and Facebook. Most of the mainstream media seems to be "in" on the craziness - and corporate America seems to rapidly bowing to the demands of the gender confused (for one example)

Bank of America - has apparently given the BLM group $1 BILLION dollars. Last time I checked - their total $$$ haul is up around the $1.8billion range.

The company my wife works for - is chock ful of SJW types - who seem to spend the better part of their workday talking about the latest protest they went to, how much they like Hamilton - and making sure everybody uses their correct pronoun.

I work for a large well known multi-national tech company. Taking out a 14 month period where I was laid off - my experience at the company goes all the way back to 2008. They've always been relatively PC , but this recent BLM thing - seems to have sent them around the bend. All manner of corporate executives have been making a really big thing about signing on to social justice causes - the gender confused are suddenly showing up in meetings using their correct pronouns - and shit like that.

The one thing I have noticed - and I've mentioned it here before: is that for some reason which escapes me - despite MA being a bit of liberal cesspool , they still don't seem to go as crazy and all-in on all of the far reaches of the left wing lunacy as I've noticed other areas of the country do. It's pretty apparent the Pacific Northwest has a full bore commie infestation problem. Heck - even down south I see more craziness then I see here up in New England. I really can't put my finger on what it is - but there's something up here that mitigates the real off the wall left wing lunacy.

Is that a reason for hope? I don't know. Hard to tell. I suppose if we see Boston or Portland Maine burning the same way that Portland Oregon has been burning - we'll find out just how far around the bend we've gone here.
New England is wealthy. It's also mostly white.
 

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