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Serious question. What has Trump lied about?
We can start with these: Source Wikipedia


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Inaugural crowd[edit]
Trump's presidency began with a series of falsehoods originated by Trump himself. The day after his inauguration, he falsely accused the media of lying about the size of the inauguration crowd. Then he exaggerated the size, and White House press secretarySean Spicer backed up his claims.[88][89][90][91] When Spicer was accused of intentionally misstating the figures,[92][93][94] Kellyanne Conway, in an interview with NBC's Chuck Todd, defended Spicer by stating that he merely presented "alternative facts".[95]Todd responded by saying, "Alternative facts are not facts; they're falsehoods."[96]
Election results[edit]
Further information: United States presidential elections in which the winner lost the popular vote
Trump went on to claim that his electoral college victory was a landslide;[97][98][99] that three of the states he did not win in the 2016 election had "serious voter fraud";[100][101][102][103] and that Clinton received 3 million to 5 million illegal votes.[104][105] Trump made his Trump Tower wiretapping allegations in March 2017, which the Department of Justice has twice refuted.[106][107] In January 2018, Trump claimed that texts between FBI employees Peter Strzok and Lisa Page were tantamount to "treason", but The Wall Street Journal reviewed them and concluded that the texts "show no evidence of a conspiracy against" Trump.[108][109]
 
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Dismissal of FBI director[edit]
On May 9, 2017, Trump dismissed James Comey, the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, stating that he had accepted the recommendations of U.S. attorney general Jeff Sessions and deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein to dismiss Comey. In their respective letters, neither Trump, Sessions nor Rosenstein mentioned the issue of an FBI investigation into links between Trump associates and Russian officials, with Rosenstein writing that Comey should be dismissed for his handling of the conclusion of the FBI investigation into the Hillary Clinton email controversy, while Sessions cited Rosenstein's reasons.[110][111][112] On May 11, Trump said in a videoed interview: "... regardless of recommendation, I was going to fire Comey ... in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story."[113][114][115] On May 31, Trump wrote on Twitter: "I never fired James Comey because of Russia!"[108]
Personal lawyer[edit]
In 2017 and in the first half of 2018, Trump repeatedly praised his personal attorney Michael Cohen as a "a great lawyer", "a loyal, wonderful person", "a good man", and someone Trump "always liked" and "respected". In the second half of 2018, with Cohen testifying to federal investigations, Trump attacked Cohen as a "rat", "a weak person, and not a very smart person", and described Cohen as "a PR person who did small legal work, very small legal work ... He represented me very little."[113][116][117]
Spygate[edit]
In May 2018, Trump developed and promoted the false[118][119] Spygate conspiracy theory[118][58] alleging that the Barack Obama administration planted a spy inside Trump's 2016 presidential campaign to assist Hillary Clinton in winning the 2016 US presidential election.[120][121]
Special Counsel Investigation[edit]
In March 2019, Trump asserted that the special counsel investigation is "illegal"; previously in June 2018, Trump argued that "the appointment of the Special Counsel is totally UNCONSTITUTIONAL!" However, in August 2018, Dabney Friedrich, a Trump-appointed judge on the DC District Court ruled the appointment was constitutional, as did a unanimous three-judge panel of the Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit in February 2019.[122][123]
The Mueller Report asserted Trump's family members, campaign staff, Republican backers, administration officials, and his associates lied or made false assertions, with the plurality of lies from Trump himself (mostly while he was president), whether unintentional, or not to the public, Congress, or authorities, per a CNN analysis.[124]
Also in March 2019, following the release of Attorney General William Barr's summary of the findings of the completed special counsel investigation, Trump tweeted: "No Collusion, No Obstruction, Complete and Total EXONERATION." However, Barr had quoted special counsel Mueller as writing that "while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him" on whether he had committed obstruction of justice. Barr declined to bring an obstruction of justice charge against the President. In testimony to Congress in May 2019, Barr said that he "didn't exonerate" Trump on obstruction as that was not the role of the Justice Department.[125][126][127]
 

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Economy[edit]
See also: Economic policy of Donald Trump
Through his first 28 months in office, Trump repeatedly and falsely characterized the economy during his presidency as the best in American history.[128]
As of March 2019, Trump's most repeated falsehoods, each repeated during his presidency over 100 times, were: that a U.S. trade deficit would be a "loss" for the country; that the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, passed during his term, was the largest tax cut in American history; that the American economy was the strongest ever during his administration; and that the Trump wall was already being built. By August, he had made this last claim at least 190 times. He has also made 100 false claims about NATO spending, whether on the part of the United States or other NATO members.[129]
Trump claimed during the campaign that the U.S. real GDP could grow at rate of "5 or even 6" percent under his policies. During 2018, the economy grew at 2.9%, the same rate as 2015 under President Obama. Longer-term projections beyond 2019 by the CBO and Federal Reserve are for growth below 2%. President Obama's advisers explained growth limits as "sluggish worker productivity and shrinking labor supply as baby boomers retire".[130]
Trump claimed in October 2017 that he would eliminate the federal debt over eight years, even though it was $19 trillion at the time.[131] However, the annual deficit (debt addition) in 2018 was nearly $800 billion, about 60% higher than the CBO forecast of $500 billion when Trump took office. The CBO January 2019 forecast for the 2018–2027 debt addition is now 40% higher, at $13.0 trillion rather than $9.4 trillion when Trump was inaugurated.[132] Other forecasts place the debt addition over a decade at $16 trillion, bringing the total to around $35 trillion. Rather than a debt to GDP ratio in 2028 of 89% had Obama's policies continued, CBO now estimates this figure at 107%, assuming Trump's tax cuts for individuals are extended past 2025.[133]
Trump claimed in March 2019 that Chinese exporters were bearing the burden of his tariffs. However, studies indicate consumers and purchasers of imports are bearing the cost and that tariffs are essentially a regressive tax. While Trump has argued that tariffs would reduce the trade deficit, it expanded to a record dollar level in 2018.[134]
Trump has sought to present his economic policies as successful in encouraging businesses to invest in new facilities and create jobs. In this effort, he has on several occasions taken credit for business investments that began before he became president.[135][136]
The following table illustrates some of the key economic variables in the last two years of the Obama Administration (2015–2016) and the first two years of the Trump Administration (2017–2018). Trump often claims the economy is doing better than it was when he was elected.[130]
Variable2015201620172018
President[130]ObamaObamaTrumpTrump
Real GDP Growth[137]2.9%1.6%2.2%2.9%
Job Creation per Month (000s)[138]227193179223
Unemployment Rate (December)[139]5.0%4.7%4.1%3.9%
Inflation Rate (CPI-All, Avg.)[140]0.1%1.3%2.1%2.4%
Real Median Household Income $[141]$59,901$61,779$62,626$63,179
Real Wage Growth %[142]2.2%1.3%0.4%0.6%
Mortgage Rate 30-yr Fixed (Avg.)[143]3.9%3.7%4.0%4.5%
Stock Market Annual % Increase (SP 500)[144]−0.7%+9.5%+19.4%−6.2%
Budget Deficit % GDP[145]2.4%3.2%3.5%3.9%
Number Uninsured (Millions)[146]28.428.228.929.4 Sept
Trade Deficit % GDP[147]2.7%2.7%2.8%3.0%
Family separation policy[edit]
See also: Trump administration family separation policy
President Trump has repeatedly and falsely said that he inherited his administration's family separation policy from Obama, his predecessor. In November 2018, Trump said, "President Obama separated children from families, and all I did was take the same law, and then I softened the law." In April 2019, Trump said, "President Obama separated children. They had child separation; I was the one that changed it." In June 2019, Trump said, "President Obama had a separation policy. I didn't have it. He had it. I brought the families together. I'm the one that put them together ... I inherited separation, and I changed the plan." Trump's assertion was false because the Obama administration had no policy systematically separating migrant families, while "zero tolerance" was not instituted until April 2018. Politifact quoted immigration experts saying that under the Obama administration families were detained and released together and separations rarely happened.[148][149][150]
 

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You actually believe the leftist propaganda listing in WikiPedia?

The media did underexaggerate the size of his innaugeration. They posted a picture before most of the people showed up paired with that misleading headline. He was right. Honestly you could easily get the truth yourself if you looked. The media is lying about Trump 24/7. I didnt even go through the rest, it is wiki, not exacly known for truth...


We can start with these: Source Wikipedia


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Inaugural crowd[edit]
Trump's presidency began with a series of falsehoods originated by Trump himself. The day after his inauguration, he falsely accused the media of lying about the size of the inauguration crowd. Then he exaggerated the size, and White House press secretarySean Spicer backed up his claims.[88][89][90][91] When Spicer was accused of intentionally misstating the figures,[92][93][94] Kellyanne Conway, in an interview with NBC's Chuck Todd, defended Spicer by stating that he merely presented "alternative facts".[95]Todd responded by saying, "Alternative facts are not facts; they're falsehoods."[96]
Election results[edit]
Further information: United States presidential elections in which the winner lost the popular vote
Trump went on to claim that his electoral college victory was a landslide;[97][98][99] that three of the states he did not win in the 2016 election had "serious voter fraud";[100][101][102][103] and that Clinton received 3 million to 5 million illegal votes.[104][105] Trump made his Trump Tower wiretapping allegations in March 2017, which the Department of Justice has twice refuted.[106][107] In January 2018, Trump claimed that texts between FBI employees Peter Strzok and Lisa Page were tantamount to "treason", but The Wall Street Journal reviewed them and concluded that the texts "show no evidence of a conspiracy against" Trump.[108][109]
 

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Wow. Trump it turns out was completely accurate about everything listed here. Read more outside of the propagandist leftist media.

Source Wikipedia
Dismissal of FBI director[edit]
On May 9, 2017, Trump dismissed James Comey, the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, stating that he had accepted the recommendations of U.S. attorney general Jeff Sessions and deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein to dismiss Comey. In their respective letters, neither Trump, Sessions nor Rosenstein mentioned the issue of an FBI investigation into links between Trump associates and Russian officials, with Rosenstein writing that Comey should be dismissed for his handling of the conclusion of the FBI investigation into the Hillary Clinton email controversy, while Sessions cited Rosenstein's reasons.[110][111][112] On May 11, Trump said in a videoed interview: "... regardless of recommendation, I was going to fire Comey ... in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story."[113][114][115] On May 31, Trump wrote on Twitter: "I never fired James Comey because of Russia!"[108]
Personal lawyer[edit]
In 2017 and in the first half of 2018, Trump repeatedly praised his personal attorney Michael Cohen as a "a great lawyer", "a loyal, wonderful person", "a good man", and someone Trump "always liked" and "respected". In the second half of 2018, with Cohen testifying to federal investigations, Trump attacked Cohen as a "rat", "a weak person, and not a very smart person", and described Cohen as "a PR person who did small legal work, very small legal work ... He represented me very little."[113][116][117]
Spygate[edit]
In May 2018, Trump developed and promoted the false[118][119] Spygate conspiracy theory[118][58] alleging that the Barack Obama administration planted a spy inside Trump's 2016 presidential campaign to assist Hillary Clinton in winning the 2016 US presidential election.[120][121]
Special Counsel Investigation[edit]
In March 2019, Trump asserted that the special counsel investigation is "illegal"; previously in June 2018, Trump argued that "the appointment of the Special Counsel is totally UNCONSTITUTIONAL!" However, in August 2018, Dabney Friedrich, a Trump-appointed judge on the DC District Court ruled the appointment was constitutional, as did a unanimous three-judge panel of the Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit in February 2019.[122][123]
The Mueller Report asserted Trump's family members, campaign staff, Republican backers, administration officials, and his associates lied or made false assertions, with the plurality of lies from Trump himself (mostly while he was president), whether unintentional, or not to the public, Congress, or authorities, per a CNN analysis.[124]
Also in March 2019, following the release of Attorney General William Barr's summary of the findings of the completed special counsel investigation, Trump tweeted: "No Collusion, No Obstruction, Complete and Total EXONERATION." However, Barr had quoted special counsel Mueller as writing that "while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him" on whether he had committed obstruction of justice. Barr declined to bring an obstruction of justice charge against the President. In testimony to Congress in May 2019, Barr said that he "didn't exonerate" Trump on obstruction as that was not the role of the Justice Department.[125][126][127]
 

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Article II and unlimited executive power[edit]
In July 2019, during a speech addressing youth at Turning Point USA Teen Student Action Summit in Washington, The Washington Post reported that, while criticizing the Mueller investigation, Trump falsely claimed that Article Two of the United States Constitution ensures that "I have to the right to do whatever I want as president." The Post clarified that "Article II grants the president 'executive power.' It does not indicate the president has total power."[151]
Hurricane Dorian[edit]
Further information: Hurricane Dorian–Alabama controversy

Meeting with Iran[edit]
On September 16, 2019, Trump tweeted that "the fake news" was incorrectly reporting that he was willing to meet with Iran with no pre-conditions. Trump had stated in July 2018 and June 2019 that he was willing to meet with Iran with no pre-conditions, and secretary of state Mike Pompeo and treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin confirmed this to be Trump's position during a White House press briefing five days before Trump's tweet.[183]
 

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Wow. Trump it turns out was completely accurate about everything listed here. Read more outside of the propagandist leftist media.
Somehow I knew that was going to be your response. Some people enjoy being lied to. I'm not one of them. You live with your view and I will with mine. I'm not getting off my position and your not getting off yours. Am I voting for him? I did and will be again. Do I think he is the best President and all around good dude. Hardly. Is he the most viable option presently? Probably.
 

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Bernie is losing ground the Liawatha. Harris will be out after the Iowa caucuses. Biden continues to lead in the polls, but that doesn't mean that much. Mayor Pete is doing well in Iowa, but he's poison to black voters.

At this point, I think it comes down to Biden or Warren. The Democrats are really worried that Hillary will try to jump in at the last minute.
 

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It's easy to hate the Dems as a conservative in the Northeast. The Reps are just as despicable if you look at the track record of going along with the Democrats' socialist and anti-American agenda. In some parts of the country though you will find Dems who are far more conservative than your RINOs in Southern-Central New England.

and these same dems would NOT vote with the party on restrictive gun laws???? i don't think so
 

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and these same dems would NOT vote with the party on restrictive gun laws???? i don't think so
[Blue Dog Democrats] vote for county and town gun restrictions? No, they wouldn't, and it generally never comes up for a vote on that level. It would be a different story for an astroturf type candidate from far away getting in by hook and crook. State and city are all marxists.
 

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Someone should make "lie list" pages for all the Presidents. Amazing how many have become obsessed with the truth all of a sudden.
 

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Someone should make "lie list" pages for all the Presidents. Amazing how many have become obsessed with the truth all of a sudden.
Let me make myself clear. I despise liars. I really don't care if it is our beloved President or the kid at the gas station. I half agree with the notion, that if a politician's lips are moving he/she is probably lying. There have been some glaring exceptions to that rule... it sometimes restores my faith. I concur with your view and I am fairly certain that information is available. My "obsession" probably comes from hearing leather smoking out of belt loops when I was kid and lied to my parents. It did not take to much of that to make telling the truth a much less painful route to take.

It is painful and difficult to own your own s#$%. Many people try to avoid it by not owning it and or lying about it. I own it. I expect you to own it as well, irregardless of who you are or aren't.
 

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Let me make myself clear. I despise liars. I really don't care if it is our beloved President or the kid at the gas station. I half agree with the notion, that if a politician's lips are moving he/she is probably lying. There have been some glaring exceptions to that rule... it sometimes restores my faith. I concur with your view and I am fairly certain that information is available. My "obsession" probably comes from hearing leather smoking out of belt loops when I was kid and lied to my parents. It did not take to much of that to make telling the truth a much less painful route to take.

It is painful and difficult to own your own s#$%. Many people try to avoid it by not owning it and or lying about it. I own it. I expect you to own it as well, irregardless of who you are or aren't.
I dislike Trump for not putting Illary in jail and picking AGs who are asshats, however the LeftiePedia articles you referenced are debatable weak sauce.
 

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as much as Bernie is a f***ing lame ass fake commie, that's probably some of the old VT rubbing off him. He is still for ban on sale of "AWB"


... and just like that our own Rino gubberner Faker went lefter than Bernie .... [rofl2] ... motherf***er didn't even offer money to buy stocks back. f***ing POS.
 

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Let me make myself clear. I despise liars. I really don't care if it is our beloved President or the kid at the gas station. I half agree with the notion, that if a politician's lips are moving he/she is probably lying. There have been some glaring exceptions to that rule... it sometimes restores my faith. I concur with your view and I am fairly certain that information is available. My "obsession" probably comes from hearing leather smoking out of belt loops when I was kid and lied to my parents. It did not take to much of that to make telling the truth a much less painful route to take.

It is painful and difficult to own your own s#$%. Many people try to avoid it by not owning it and or lying about it. I own it. I expect you to own it as well, irregardless of who you are or aren't.
Trump's appeal is he talks like the regular Joe, that is, in hyperbole, exaggeration and satire.
 
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