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Think it is politics at its finest. He needs to court voters who are not extreme & steal some steam from Biden. Old white guy isn't going to get votes from Warren or Harris, so go after a demographic that he can win. Might appeal to those anti-establishment, anti-centrist folks who despise big governemnt and big corporations. Pretty slick.
 

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Might be. However it is a stroke of politics genius. Considering 50% of the country is for drawing and quartering the Prez and a lot of people are single issue voters like 2A for instance... If he honestly embraces gun owners there might be a whole plow string disappear right off the Pike!
 

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Compared to Beto, his sounds sane. Covers up his insanity. Or maybe he is already looking toward re-election to the Senate in VT?
 

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He is lying like a rug. Just like every other leftist. Pretty soon he will be promising free guns and ammo.

When I read between his lines I see "Take the Conservative's guns and give them to the Socialists..."
Bernie is a damned Bolshevik...
 
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It doesn't matter if he said that he doesn't want to confiscate them because it invokes constitutional issues. In the same article, he stated that he wants an AWB. Not much difference in my opinion!

Sanders shared his gun control plan, which included taking an adversarial stance against the National Rifle Association, increasing background checks and banning the sale of assault weapons.
 

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Never trust a dem.
It's easy to hate the Dems as a conservative in the Northeast. The Reps are just as despicable if you look at the track record of going along with the Democrats' socialist and anti-American agenda. In some parts of the country though you will find Dems who are far more conservative than your RINOs in Southern-Central New England.
 

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It's easy to hate the Dems as a conservative in the Northeast. The Reps are just as despicable if you look at the track record of going along with the Democrats' socialist and anti-American agenda. In some parts of the country though you will find Dems who are far more conservative than your RINOs in Southern-Central New England.
I never mentioned hate. I said never trust a dem.
 

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I never mentioned hate. I said never trust a dem.
Sorry, didn't mean to put words in your mouth. My other 2c is don't trust a politicians who is speaking against their track record.
 

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Might be. However it is a stroke of politics genius. Considering 50% of the country is for drawing and quartering the Prez and a lot of people are single issue voters like 2A for instance... If he honestly embraces gun owners there might be a whole plow string disappear right off the Pike!
He will never embrace me. And probably a hell of a lot of other gun enthusiasts..He still wants to ban "assault rifles".
 

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Sadly, he doesn’t need to soften his anti gun message to run for re-election in Vermont anymore.☹
It's probably giving him too much credit but I always felt like Bernie really didn't care about guns that much but in 2016 Hillary brought it up a lot to try to score points regarding Vermont (I remember she claimed that a big part of NY's gun violence was due to Vermont's "lax laws") and I think basically pushed him into a more "hardline stance."

While I don't think he is at all "good" for 2A, I honestly think it's way down on his list but the current Democratic field as whole has largely been rushing to one-up another like Beto (and consequently pushing the Overton Window).
 

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He will never embrace me. And probably a hell of a lot of other gun enthusiasts..He still wants to ban "assault rifles".
I'm not talking to you or probably most gun owners in New England. Most wear conservatism like a badge of honor here. It is your brand and your hope. I have lived and worked all over the country chasing "booms" in my profession. While it is is utopian here to be that New England conservative here, it is less so elsewhere. I voted for Trump because we needed a change bad and I need him and agree with him on Veterans programs, Immigration and 2A. However I can do without the rest of that dog and pony show. I want to vomit when the guy is just bald face lying. I didn't like it when my kids were lying and it really sucks in a President. That said I will vote for him again to protect 2A and the immigration work. He can lose if he steps away from us. If a Dem does embrace the gun owners and promotes constitutional carry nationwide and does not grab for peoples bad black guns and he or she sells it hard enough... it could happen. The president is going to unhorse himself just doing stupid stuff that didn't need to be done.
 
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It's probably giving him too much credit but I always felt like Bernie really didn't care about guns that much but in 2016 Hillary brought it up a lot to try to score points regarding Vermont (I remember she claimed that a big part of NY's gun violence was due to Vermont's "lax laws") and I think basically pushed him into a more "hardline stance."

While I don't think he is at all "good" for 2A, I honestly think it's way down on his list but the current Democratic field as whole has largely been rushing to one-up another like Beto (and consequently pushing the Overton Window).
"His" list doesn't matter. It's the Dem platform that you elect if you elect a Dem. Same with Repubs. You want to run as a Dem or Repub, here's the power point and script. Once elected, you shall follow it. Simple as that. No independent thinking these days although Trump certainly does his own thing in many ways.
 

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It doesn't matter to him if it's "unconstitutional". If he gets elected he'll shred it on day 1, people will need to sue, and there is still enough judges in the courts to put the brakes on any challenge.
 

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"His" list doesn't matter. It's the Dem platform that you elect if you elect a Dem. Same with Repubs. You want to run as a Dem or Repub, here's the power point and script. Once elected, you shall follow it. Simple as that. No independent thinking these days although Trump certainly does his own thing in many ways.
Love how you make an assertion and then immediately provide evidence to the contrary in the same post. Good you are not in law! Or, are you?
 
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Compared to Beto, his sounds sane. Covers up his insanity. Or maybe he is already looking toward re-election to the Senate in VT?
That's the issue. He is probably sane. And he is probably the only one up there on the stage who is actually speaking his mind and not just play acting out a role to touch a point a handler suggests will give them DKP.

Would Bernie be bad for us? Probably. The only good thing would be we would know exactly what he is doing, thinking and planning.

The others are all "Who Knows Wednesdays". Except for Hildabeast, who didn't make it to Wednesday yet.
 
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He has taken a page from that douche Joy Behar. He is lying to get more people who might be on the fence over to his side...
 

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Politicians will LIE about anything just to get the VOTES. Plain and simple.......Once elected, the get a sudden case of AMNESIA.......

The only one I truly trust is my daughters dog.........Loyal to the very end........
 
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