Isn't Diversity Great

[FNHFAL]

For all I know this PA State trooper maybe a warrior. She reminds me of my mother all dressed up "Tacticool" for Halloween.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/22/us/in-tense-woods-police-shift-from-prey-to-hunters.html

 

[todd c]

and they wonder why the population is losing respect for them.

 

[KiloVictorTango]

Who needs the 4th amendment when you can be Pennsylvania Strong!

 

[usp45ct]

How can hunters check their trail cameras if they are warned to stay out of the woods?

 

[BattleSnail]

they really go up to people like that for traffic stops? By the time she managed to swing that rifle up, the "subject" could dump a handgun mag into her.

 

[cyberlogicx]

they really go up to people like that for traffic stops? By the time she managed to swing that rifle up, the "subject" could dump a handgun mag into her.

Kick the door open, knock her over, mag dump, peel out.

ETA:
http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/28/this-cops-so-hot-youd-commit-a-crime-just-to-get-tackled/

 

[Rancho]

Why aren't they employing the skills of local hunters that have lived in the area for generations instead of making them shelter in place?

 

[StevensMarksman]

Wow! They only give them 20 rounders?

StevensMarksman

 

[todd c]

there was a story of a guy who was on the run in the woods for something like 10 years down south they finally caught him when he went dumpster diving for food. i can't remember his name. they tried everything to catch him including IR helicopters.

 

[knfmn]

there was a story of a guy who was on the run in the woods for something like 10 years down south they finally caught him when he went dumpster diving for food. i can't remember his name. they tried everything to catch him including IR helicopters.

Eric Rudolph, AKA the Olympic park bomber. He had lots of local support. The feds came in throwing their weight around, trying to make the locals cooperate and basically hit a stone wall.

 

[BigMike]

If I lived in the area, I would not be helping in the apprehension of Frein. I don't support what he did, but he clearly did it for reason's he believes are righteous. He may only want to do LE harm, but if I am a person acting in concert with LE, what does that effectively make me?

"My name's Paul, and this is between ya'll…"

 

[whacko]

If I lived in the area, I would not be helping in the apprehension of Frein. I don't support what he did, but he clearly did it for reason's he believes are righteous. He may only want to do LE harm, but if I am a person acting in concert with LE, what does that effectively make me?

"My name's Paul, and this is between ya'll…"

This thread is delivering now

 

[cbrxx]

For all I know this PA State trooper maybe a warrior. She reminds me of my mother all dressed up "Tacticool" for Halloween.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/22/us/in-tense-woods-police-shift-from-prey-to-hunters.html

I think we have plenty around here like that.

 

[todd c]

If I lived in the area, I would not be helping in the apprehension of Frein. I don't support what he did, but he clearly did it for reason's he believes are righteous. He may only want to do LE harm, but if I am a person acting in concert with LE, what does that effectively make me?

"My name's Paul, and this is between ya'll…"

helping would violate my number one rule. never talk to the police. there's alot more to this story not being told he must of had some really negative interactions with the staties down there. the media wants us to believe this guy just woke up and snapped

 

[firestorm]

This thread is delivering now

Hes not wrong. Why get involved? I don't care what the reasons were behind what happened, its no excuse for lockdowns and restricting the rights of those who had nothing to do with it. The neighbors didn't shoot anyone, why are they being dragged out of cars at gunpoint? Why are they not allowed to go to their own homes, on public roads?

 

[whacko]

helping would violate my number one rule. never talk to the police. there's alot more to this story not being told he must of had some really negative interactions with the staties down there. the media wants us to believe this guy just woke up and snapped

I'm curious.....truthfully curious.......are you saying that the guy they are looking for.......if for some reason had some bad interaction with LEO.....and is somehow "justified" in killing some state troopers?

 

[whacko]

Hes not wrong. Why get involved? I don't care what the reasons were behind what happened, its no excuse for lockdowns and restricting the rights of those who had nothing to do with it. The neighbors didn't shoot anyone, why are they being dragged out of cars at gunpoint? Why are they not allowed to go to their own homes, on public roads?

I'm not saying lockdowns are ok......I never even hinted at that....... I'm reacting to his statement that "I don't support what he did, but he clearly did it for reason's he believes are righteous".........and wondering what that exactly means. The guy did kill some troopers........is there some "justification' for that......that I am unaware of?

 

[goodzilla]

Hes not wrong. Why get involved? I don't care what the reasons were behind what happened, its no excuse for lockdowns and restricting the rights of those who had nothing to do with it. The neighbors didn't shoot anyone, why are they being dragged out of cars at gunpoint? Why are they not allowed to go to their own homes, on public roads?

Probably because it worked just fine in Watertown.

 

[todd c]

I'm curious.....truthfully curious.......are you saying that the guy they are looking for.......if for some reason had some bad interaction with LEO.....and is somehow "justified" in killing some state troopers?

i'm no judge or jury. i don't know all the facts, maybe they shot his dog. I'm just stating i highly doubt he woke up one morning choose between coffee or shoot up the barracks. there must be more to the story not being reported on. i could be wrong but this guy seemed to pick non civilians for a reason.

 

[BattleSnail]

I'm not saying lockdowns are ok......I never even hinted at that....... I'm reacting to his statement that "I don't support what he did, but he clearly did it for reason's he believes are righteous".........and wondering what that exactly means. The guy did kill some troopers........is there some "justification' for that......that I am unaware of?

Carl Drega...one example

Look at the Justina Pelletier case. Take my kid away and I'll kill you and anyone who gets in my way.

Some people might have perfectly valid reasons for going to war with the state.

 

[Supermoto]

I don't have an issue with what she is wearing. They are looking for a guy with a rifle that wants to kill cops. Bringing your rifle, armor and all your friend with rifles seems like a smart way to go about that.
Sniping a person as he walks out of the barracks is a pussy move. No different then the DC sniper shooting people pumping gas.

Any lock downs, searches without PC is a big problem, but not related to wearing the proper gear for the job she is doing

 

[mibro]

i'm no judge or jury. i don't know all the facts, maybe they shot his dog. I'm just stating i highly doubt he woke up one morning choose between coffee or shoot up the barracks. there must be more to the story not being reported on. i could be wrong but this guy seemed to pick non civilians for a reason.

I'm not picking on you as this subject comes up fairly often.

Why post anti-police and anti-authority sentiments on a gun owners' public bulletin board? If you think that way maybe it's better to keep those thoughts to yourself than to potentially give the anti-gunners more ammunition to undermine law-abiding gun owners.

From my brief Googling of Frein he seems like a bona fide whack job.

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Look at the Justina Pelletier case. Take my kid away and I'll kill you and anyone who gets in my way.

Way to go, Rambo.

 

[TBalls]

I'm not saying lockdowns are ok......I never even hinted at that....... I'm reacting to his statement that "I don't support what he did, but he clearly did it for reason's he believes are righteous".........and wondering what that exactly means. The guy did kill some troopers........is there some "justification' for that......that I am unaware of?

I think the point being made is not that he is "justified" in any objective sense of the word, but that the pure fact that he did what he did indicates he believes his acts to be justified. A person who is so off the deep end that he'll target presumably random LE simply for being LE could conceivably target anyone who's cooperating with LE.

 

[BattleSnail]

Way to go, Rambo.

lol

If your kids aren't worth killing for, what is? sheep.

 

[whacko]

Carl Drega...one example

Look at the Justina Pelletier case. Take my kid away and I'll kill you and anyone who gets in my way.

Some people might have perfectly valid reasons for going to war with the state.

I'm out or this thread now.......really you guys are comparing this guy in PA saying he might be the next Carl Drega and that both of these guys were actually justified in killing? Wow ........I'm out.

 

[mibro]

lol

If your kids aren't worth killing for, what is? sheep.

You have stated that under certain circumstances you will commit murder. What is the purpose of making a public statement like that?

For a legal gun owner that shows extremely poor judgment imo.

 

[todd c]

I'm not picking on you as this subject comes up fairly often.

Why post anti-police and anti-authority sentiments on a gun owners' public bulletin board? If you think that way maybe it's better to keep those thoughts to yourself than to potentially give the anti-gunners more ammunition to undermine law-abiding gun owners.

From my brief Googling of Frein he seems like a bona fide whack job.

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maybe you can't read. i'm not pro or anti LEO. I was making the statement this guys for some reason target LEO's not civilians something more is going on. Maybe he gets pulled over everyday driving by this barracks and has his rights trampled on. Maybe he is just nuts. I don't know. does it give him the right to commit murder? NO. you must be trolling

 

[BattleSnail]

I'm out or this thread now.......really you guys are comparing this guy in PA saying he might be the next Carl Drega and that both of these guys were actually justified in killing? Wow ........I'm out.

no, I'm not comparing him to anyone. Others have insinuated that it's never ok to shoot troopers. I disagree and provided examples as to why.

I know nothing about this guy and what he did. From my readings of the Drega stuff, a lot of dead people would still be alive if they just left him the F alone.

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You have stated that under certain circumstances you will commit murder. What is the purpose of making a public statement like that?

For a legal gun owner that shows extremely poor judgment imo.

That's good. I'll kill anyone who kidnaps my kids. I don't give a shit who reads that, really.

 

[mibro]

no, I'm not comparing him to anyone. Others have insinuated that it's never ok to shoot troopers. I disagree and provided examples as to why.

I see things written here at NES that might motivate me, were I a LEO, to compel the site owner to identify the writer and pass that info along to that person's COP.

Maybe you're having a particularly bad day but in all sincerity you should reflect on the wisdom of posting these thoughts on a gun owners' public bulletin board.

 

[mclina]

Paul Keat, 42, a local man in a camo jacket and a baseball cap, smoked a succession of cigarettes as he recalled trying to return to his home on Friday, only to find his hilltop neighborhood cordoned off by the police. But he knew a back way, he said, and he took it.
After he got out of his pickup truck, Mr. Keat said, a police officer — “I would say on edge” — tossed him to the ground, handcuffed him, and ran an identification check. But the two men managed to have a brief conversation before Mr. Keat was escorted home.

“We’re looking for somebody who killed one of our own,” Mr. Keat recalled the officer saying.

And Mr. Keat recalled responding: “I know why you’re out here.”

Nice