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Is my neighborhood a cancer hotspot?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by GaryO, Jun 1, 2018.

  1. Taka

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  2. watchman

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    Are all the women from Franklin and how long have they lived there? I doubt it is because of the neighborhood maybe coincidence unless they are all local. Do you have a garden maybe the soil if everyone does.
     
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    Takes a lot of info to start tracking cancer. My wife is a twofer. Breast and skin. Many major surgeries and rebuilds.
    She was never a sun girl. I’m irish. I burn looking at that bright thing in the sky.
     
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  4. MarkT

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    Do you live near high-tension power lines?
     
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  5. MP-In-The-Wind

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    Ha! No, just a poor Armenian farmer! ;^) Indeed...depending on the wind direction you can smell it on West Central Street....
     
  6. Emacs

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    I would be humble about using intuition or common sense to draw conclusions in matters of cancer epidemiology. Consider this: draw 1000 300-yard circles on a map, and measure the age-adjusted cancer cases per 100 years in each circle, and make the naive assumption that these events are purely random. The worst circle will have ridiculously high incidence of cancer, but it's only by dumb luck, not environmental exposure. Those unfortunate circles are on the right tail of the distribution. Then throw in a statistician who knows just enough to be dangerous, and he might write something smart-sounding on Huffington Post or Mercola like "if the null hypothesis that the cancer incidence is i.i.d. were true, the probability of observing such a high rate is < 0.001, therefore environmental factors must be causing the cancer." But it's just wrong, and crap like this is why you need a Ph.D in epi to even know the right questions to ask here.

    It's entirely possible there's something in your area causing cancer, but absent some compelling evidence my money is on random bad luck.
     
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    Ya. Just ask the families in Woburn.
    There was a remediation site down the street from where my wife grew up in S. Lowell. IIRC it was an ash dump from Lowell Gas. Not sure if other families were effected in the area but she is a 2fer cancer survivor. Sure, she smoked as did I but cancer is a hit or miss story. It could hit you thru gene, environmental, both or just shit luck.
     
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  8. Bfatz

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    Actually if I were you I would call the gas company and have them check for leaks in the gas main in your area . Just a thought.
     
  9. Snora

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    Got a source for this info? I'd love to know how half a teaspoon of baking soda can turn the human body into a cancer-killing alkaline environment.
     
  10. Snora

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    Search results were all feel-good homeopathy blogs with inconclusive evidence. I'm just curious how half a teaspoon of a mild base is going to shift the pH of 150 pounds of water to the point that it can "prevent cancer growth." It seems tums is really missing out; why cure indigestion when they prevent cancer?
     
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    Did the town test it or did you test it? My town says the water is safe while sueing the feds for it not being safe...they shut down those wells... i don't even need a test to know my water is still not safe....i still drink it when i dont have another source...dehydration trumps cancer i guess

    Im not sure thats sound advice, you better take some supplements or drink a glass of "dirty" water every now and then.
     
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  12. Emacs

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    Huge conspiracy by big pharma. Arm & Hammer gets a kickback of every cancer drug sold, so they keep quiet or something. AverageJoe is onto them though. The truth is out there fellas.
     
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    Make sure you dont get any ammo deliveries while they are investigating.
     
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    Obviously, this is the answer. /Sarcasm^nth degree. This doesn't even rate a response. I wish I viewed life through eyes like that commentor's

    Shits scary. Woburn is the most famous case that comes to mind. There's a Travolta movie about it. I wouldn't trust the town at all, and it could be a coincidence, but it's worth getting someone to look into. I'd definitely watch the movie. Not the most exciting ever, but does get into some audience-friendly explanations as to how groundwater moves, carries contaminated stuff, etc. Also as interesting as legal procedure can be RE getting a remedy in such a case.

    Mike
     
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    Baking soda. Cure to cancer all along. Besides the fact that you demonstrate even the most basic lack of understanding as to the pathology of cancer... and my only background is google and a bio degree from 5 years ago.

    Mike
     
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    If I was the OP I would consider moving. Why take the risk? Even if it was just the piece of mind.
     
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    The town tested it but it was also tested by a an environmental scientist who lives on the street, same results, water is clean.
     
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    I should be GTG, i use baking soda and water to cure my reflux!
     
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    We used to live on the cape and there is crazy high rates of cancer around Otis in Sandwich, Mashpee and Falmouth. When we moved into the Boston area, we almost bought in West Concord, but then our realtor made mention of the starmet depleted uranium superfund site. From there, every house search was coupled with a search in the superfund database.

    Good luck on finding answers.
     
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    They say 1 in 8 women will get breast cancer. Seems pretty damn high to me.
    My wife and I went through it last year.
    In remission now, but a terribly stressful year.
     
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    But won't that undo all the good from the apple cider vinegar?


    Doesn't this add TON of sodium? My blood pressure would blow my head off.
     
  22. GaryO

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    I drink at least a gallon of water a day, keeps the sodium levels in check.
     
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    Three good friends of mine (women) that hang out together all have cancer
    In their 40’s
    My wife Doesn’t have brain cancer but the tumor is cancerous
     
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    1/2 tsp of table salt : 1,163 mg of Sodium
    1/2 tsp of baking soda : 630 mg of Sodium
     
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    When I lived in canton, there was a big fire at a farm where hundreds of gallons of PCB’s were stored. The smoke/ash was deposited throughout the downwind neighborhoods and the topsoil still remains contaminated to this day. This area is also considered a superfund site. Buyer beware.
     
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    Burning PCBs creates Dioxin which is bad shit.
     
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    Wonder if he tested for PFAS? That’s been the latest contaminant of concern from EPA. I worked as a dedicated EPA contractor for 8 years and we were sampling TONS of GW wells and surface water all over New England.
    Basic Information on PFAS | US EPA
     
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    Only EPA site I worked at in Franklin in the 8 years as a EPA contractor was the BJAT LLC site at 300 Fisher Street. It’s a superfund site and they’ve got contamination in the soil surface water, and groundwater.
     
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    What did they test for?

    Since this thread was resurrected I'm curious to know. Did you find anything?
     
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    i too have found some corroborating evidence of this, but had to use my double secret dark internet connection to find it:
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