Is a Sealed Spam Can "Locked"

[Gastrok]

The MA laws related to storage of ammo says it "shall be stored in a locked cabinet, closet or box when not in use". Do you think a sealed (unopened) spam can might pass muster?

And no, I don't want to be the first to try and argue this in court! Just wondering what your take on this is.

 

[sxqazw1]

I think it's harder to open that can with out an opener than it is to open some safes with out a key.

 

[Bill Katt]

I think it's harder to open that can with out an opener than it is to open some safes with out a key.

Naw, You just have to go at it with a hammer and chisel, like I do.






This was purely sarcastic...do not try this at home.

 

[Gastrok]

Naw, You just have to go at it with a hammer and chisel, like I do.






This was purely sarcastic...do not try this at home.

I've seen at least one youtuber do this (hammer and screw driver). Nuts considering every other round is primer up!

 

[[cerberus]]

When a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound? What no one knows can not hurt them.

 

[mclina]

I asked this once, and the consensus was that a spam can, even inside a banded crate, is probably not 'locked'. Harder to get into than most 'safes', but not 'locked'.

And what kind of assault are you planning with 440 rounds of ammo that is capable of penetrating bullet proof vests? Nobody needs that much ammo.

 

[Bill Katt]

And what kind of assault are you planning with 440 rounds of ammo that is capable of penetrating bullet proof vests? Nobody needs that much ammo.

That reminds me, I should probably pick up a couple more of them when I get a chance....LOL.

 

[mclina]

That reminds me, I should probably pick up a couple more of them when I get a chance....LOL.

I won't be happy until my basement looks like this:

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

You're not referring to a law, you're referring to the fire code: 527 CMR 13.04. The specific requirement is that ammunition be stored in it's original container and such containers stored in a 'locked' cabinet, closet, etc. The problem with the CRM is that it doesn't define the problem it's trying to solve. Courts tend to read laws (an regulations) as literally as possible. The spam can is not 'locked'. You do the math.

 

[TheKrazyRaven]

Naw, You just have to go at it with a hammer and chisel, like I do.



This was purely sarcastic...do not try this at home.

hammer + sharp snapon chisel used to cut automotive body panels apart makes short work of opening it

 

[FreeWillie]

The MA laws related to storage of ammo says it "shall be stored in a locked cabinet, closet or box when not in use". Do you think a sealed (unopened) spam can might pass muster?

And no, I don't want to be the first to try and argue this in court! Just wondering what your take on this is.

If it ain't got a lock hanging off of it it ain't locked. IANAL.

 

[MisterHappy]

If zombies are coming, and time is of the essence, then yes, it's effectively locked.
If John Law comes over to do a wellness check.....

 

[Boghog1]

you could always JB weld a hasp to the can and throw a lock on it

 

[el duderino]

I won't be happy until my basement looks like this:

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Is that the Ark of the Covenant in the front there?

 

[enbloc]

Sure, why not. It needs a "key" to open it...

 

[FreeWillie]

you could always JB weld a hasp to the can and throw a lock on it

That would meet the letter of the law.

 

[mclina]

Is that the Ark of the Covenant in the front there?

We have top men working on it. Top men.

 

[Jsfitzgerald85]

I won't be happy until my basement looks like this:

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i see you have pictures of my storage closet, when did you go into my house?

 

[atilla]

That would meet the letter of the law.

and be hilarious. you're going to cut the top open anyway, so do this--for teh lulz.

 

[Sweeney]

I don't lock mine up... it's all 'in use' keeping dust off of specific areas of the bench, the floor, etc.

 

[FLHTC]

a great question but I would say no

 

[mclina]

Some creative person should come up with some adhesive 'Spam' labels that we can stick on these, and then just stack them up in our kitchens.

 

[Dench]

no.

 

[Chet0729]

hammer + sharp snapon chisel used to cut automotive body panels apart makes short work of opening it

This is the way I do it. Tried the supplied can opener once. Takes way to long

 

[DehydratedCorn]

"unsafe ammo storage" is not enforceable by police iirc

 

[crazymjb]

I wouldn't be worried about it.

Mike

 

[BrianK]

Did one Sunday before heading to the range. Less than 60 seconds. I was actually surprised, I thought it'd be like using a P38, but the opener whizzed through that thing like BUTTAH.

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"unsafe ammo storage" is not enforceable by police iirc

But might indicate an "unsuitable" LTC-holder, so I'd be careful...

 

[Gastrok]

I've opened a few with the supplied opener and it took 2-3 minutes.


Sent from my handheld electronic thingamabob.

 

[pthomas65]

I think it's harder to open that can with out an opener than it is to open some safes with out a key.

Ditto, what a pain in the a..