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Interesting read: Pro Athletes and Guns
- Thread starter benster
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Globe is making a big deal about nothing. Professional athletes are often stalked or mobbed when seen in public, have lots of money, and are high profile targets for criminals. They are citizens just like the rest of us and mostly have clean records, so there should be no reason they can't CCW.
Shaq is a reserve officer in Miami as I recall and actually made an arrest once (imagine getting arrested by that guy)
Shaq is a reserve officer in Miami as I recall and actually made an arrest once (imagine getting arrested by that guy)
Players
I knew Michael Lewis of the Saints when he played in NJ on the arena foorball team called the Red Dogs. You could not meet a nicer guy with a level head. Not the pro player attitude in any way.
Like every other profession, some can handle the responsibilty, some can't. The article makes it sound like these guys carry 24/7 when in reality they make own firearms that are kept in the home. I know for a fact that they would not be permitted to possess while on team trips with certain, if not all trips.
I knew Michael Lewis of the Saints when he played in NJ on the arena foorball team called the Red Dogs. You could not meet a nicer guy with a level head. Not the pro player attitude in any way.
Like every other profession, some can handle the responsibilty, some can't. The article makes it sound like these guys carry 24/7 when in reality they make own firearms that are kept in the home. I know for a fact that they would not be permitted to possess while on team trips with certain, if not all trips.
Again, where is the NRA? You know the "I'm the NRA" program? They should be getting these guys to vouch for lawful gun owners.
Shuler, born in the rural hills in western North Carolina, preaches "mountain values." He opposes abortion, supports gun rights
In Massachusetts, 203,302 residents were licensed to carry concealed weapons as of August, according to the state Criminal History Systems Board. That's about one of every 23 residents among the 4.6 million who are at least 21 years old, the minimum age to obtain a license. But state law bars authorities from releasing the names of permit holders to "prevent individuals with devious motives from ascertaining who possesses firearms,"
Ya gotta wonder if those records are released to "public officials" though, regardless of motive.
Shuler, born in the rural hills in western North Carolina, preaches "mountain values." He opposes abortion, supports gun rights
In Massachusetts, 203,302 residents were licensed to carry concealed weapons as of August, according to the state Criminal History Systems Board. That's about one of every 23 residents among the 4.6 million who are at least 21 years old, the minimum age to obtain a license. But state law bars authorities from releasing the names of permit holders to "prevent individuals with devious motives from ascertaining who possesses firearms,"
Ya gotta wonder if those records are released to "public officials" though, regardless of motive.
I thought this quote was going to be about the older players, but it is about the younger ones.
What about this practical side for NON players?
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daceman63
No more right to privacy....oh well....NEXT!!!!!!!!
MaverickNH
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From that article:
"In Massachusetts, 203,302 residents were licensed to carry concealed weapons as of August, according to the state Criminal History Systems Board. That's about one of every 23 residents among the 4.6 million who are at least 21 years old, the minimum age to obtain a license."
There was question raied on John Lott's blog http://johnrlott.tripod.com/2006/12/massachusetts-203302-concealed-handgun.html WRT whether those were all ALP LTC-A or mistakenly including restricted LTCs, FID cards etc.
A 3.2% (by total population) CCW rate for MA would seem surprising, exceeding a lot of "shall-issue" states per capita http://blogostuff.blogspot.com/2004/12/percentage-of-adults-with-carry.html
"In Massachusetts, 203,302 residents were licensed to carry concealed weapons as of August, according to the state Criminal History Systems Board. That's about one of every 23 residents among the 4.6 million who are at least 21 years old, the minimum age to obtain a license."
There was question raied on John Lott's blog http://johnrlott.tripod.com/2006/12/massachusetts-203302-concealed-handgun.html WRT whether those were all ALP LTC-A or mistakenly including restricted LTCs, FID cards etc.
A 3.2% (by total population) CCW rate for MA would seem surprising, exceeding a lot of "shall-issue" states per capita http://blogostuff.blogspot.com/2004/12/percentage-of-adults-with-carry.html
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Yes, I raised it with him. [When John was out here for a GOAL rally a few years back, we talked for a while. There's a good chance he was in one of the econ stats sections that I TA'd back in the late 70's.]
Ken
Ken
MaverickNH
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Any other independent confirmation of CCW rate in MA that anyone knows of?
Channel 7 (I think) did a story a little over a year ago about CCW. I think they said 1 in 25. They even gave the % of several towns, I think Boston was <1% but some towns in western MA were around 45%.
When they ran the story the teasers for it made it sound like a ANTI gun story, I was thinking oh great... but when the story actually came on it was pretty neutral (maybe slightly on our side of neutral). They even pointed out that us LTC holders are not the ones committing the crimes. Also the thing of town mattering, they showed 2 friends (both women) one from Walpole and one from Norwood both applied for the same reason "self defense" walpole issued norwood did not.
I'd ventura a guess and say our LTC numbers may be higher than alot of shall issue states % wise is because in MA to own a handgun you need an LTC. In many states you don't need anything just to own it, and if you don't intend to carry why would you get an LTC (or equivalent).
When they ran the story the teasers for it made it sound like a ANTI gun story, I was thinking oh great... but when the story actually came on it was pretty neutral (maybe slightly on our side of neutral). They even pointed out that us LTC holders are not the ones committing the crimes. Also the thing of town mattering, they showed 2 friends (both women) one from Walpole and one from Norwood both applied for the same reason "self defense" walpole issued norwood did not.
I'd ventura a guess and say our LTC numbers may be higher than alot of shall issue states % wise is because in MA to own a handgun you need an LTC. In many states you don't need anything just to own it, and if you don't intend to carry why would you get an LTC (or equivalent).
