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Imprisoned Border Patrol Agent Attacked

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From the agent's uncle http://www.firesociety.com/article/10219:

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BREAKING NEWS
IMPRISONED BORDER AGENT IGNATIO RAMOS ASSAULTED
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2/5/07, 6:41PM EST

Grassfire.org has learned that imprisoned Border Patrol agent Ignacio "Nacho" Ramos has been assaulted in prison by as many as 5 other inmates -- news confirmed by three family members.

The assault occurred at 10:00pm Saturday night (2/3), apparentely following the airing of America's Most Wanted. According to Ramos' uncle:

"Nacho was assaulted Saturday night around 2200 by about five illegal immigrants. He has multiple and severe injuries. They put him in Isolation for now, he has not been allowed to see a doctor since Saturday. They were yelling at him in Spanish, Maten a la migra. which means kill the Border Patrol Agent."

Another family member said Nacho was attacked after he fell asleep Saturday night. Assaulters went after him with repeated blows and kicks. Ramos suffered wounds to his back, shoulder, arms and head. There is concern that Agent Ramos was not given medical treatment after the incident and may not have received medical attention for up to 48 hours. An investigation is expected to be launched Tuesday.

This is precisely the concern Mrs. Monica Ramos expressed in her FireSociety blog entry.

"Ignatio Ramos has been wrongly convicted and now put in harm's way in a prison known to harbor illegal alien drug runners," said Grassfire.org President Steve Elliott. "This is beyond an outrage. Our president must take action immediately to pardon these agents."

Sign the petition to pardon the agents. (over 292,000)

Media inquiries: [email protected].

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so a criminal was beaten by other criminals. yawn.

This guy was a border patrol agent who shot a drug dealer with 800 pounds of pot in his van. The dealer testified against him with immunity in the US. I gather he may have screwed up his report, not stated that he fired or hit the suspect, but he should not have been jailed.

This bigger than criminal v. criminal.
 
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I read all about it buddy, guess you didn't. read both sides, not just the xenophobic screeds. the agents are not hero's. not by a long shot. stop emoting and use some logic.

Ahhh great... A liberal!
I suppose you believe that the illegal now has the right to sue as well!
 

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I read all about it buddy, guess you didn't. read both sides, not just the xenophobic screeds. the agents are not hero's. not by a long shot. stop emoting and use some logic.

I don't think the agents are heros. But the job they do is a thankless one. Both our goverment and the mexican goverment are not trying to make their job easier, add to that the fact the drug dealers and illegals are getting bolder. These guys made mistakes, sure. But they stopped a drug dealer with 1 million bucks worth of pot. They turned in the drugs, and were jailed for their actions. They did their jobs, not well, but they did it.

This dealer was brought into this country to testify against them w/ amnesty!! What message does it tell the other agents? Maybe you feel the Mexicans crossing the border are "Un-document Aliens" and they deserve the right to come here and bleed our system. Well they are un-documented and that is ILLEGAL. Also the last I knew 1 million bucks worth of pot was also illegal. This was retribution towards these border agents.

Finally he was shot through both butt cheeks, which means he was standing at an angle. You know like when your firing a gun. If he was running away the bullet would have come out the front.
 
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What the hell do we even have a border patrol for?


They can't pursue a fleeing suspect...

They can't shot at someone that just shot a fellow agent...

And if they do, they go to prison... yeah... that's a nice system.

so a criminal was beaten by other criminals. yawn.

Yeah... if that were the case. But the fact remains that this guy was doing his job and apparently our f***ed up government has their hands so tied that protecting the boarders is actually the least of what they are doing...

I'd say that hearing shots fired, finding a fellow patrol agent lying in a pool of his own blood and seeing the scumbag that shot him pointing a shinny gun shaped object at you is cause enough to shoot him in the ass.
 
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I guess I just don't share you guys moral relativism. they broke the law and tried to cover it up. It sucks the Governemnt went after them harshly. guess they were trying to preserve some sort of standards and professionalism in the BP with that enforcing the law thing.

emotionaly I agree with you guys, they could have gotten a slap on the wrist since it was an illegal with drugs, but then that logic creeps in and screws me all up....:)
 
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Funny!.... Agents are in Jail, getting beat up by MORE Illegal Scum and the Scum bag Drug totiing ILLEGAL who was shot and LIGHTLY wounded is now being advised to SUE.... Ah! how they love to destroy Americans and Kiss A-- of our enemies.
Those Agents should get the Same Prison as the Hollywood jerks get, you know the ones with the Tennis Courts etc, the Martha Stewart Prison.

Well, Liquid, you may have a point, Guy was fleeing, he was Illegal and he had drugs, it SHOULD be a SHOOT TO KILL violation, except our Liberal friends don't want no harm to happen to these people who want to Tunnel across our borders, bring in the Drugs, rape our women, take our jobs, get our kids on dope, not abide by laws entering and not abide by laws once here.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50441
http://www.mexica-movement.org/granmarcha.htm
http://www.mexica-movement.org/granmarchapart2.htm


Below was sent to me by a Calif Friend who moved North to ge out of the Southern area, I have not confirmed, yet I do not argue with it, I lived there for 4 years. have my own stories.

"From the L.A. Times:
1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County (L.A. County has 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.
2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in L.A. are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.
10. In L.A. County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million People in L.A. County).
11. Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare.
12. Over 70% of the United States' annual population growth (and over 90% of California, Florida and New York) results from immigration.
13. 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.
14. The cost of immigration to American taxpayers in 1997 was $70 Billion and that cost has increased every year since."

If 14 is accurate in 4 years that is 280 Billion Dollars what has been spent on Iraq
Besides the Fence, have target Ranges all along the Border for all the Military Airw Wings, Artillary and Armor.
The estimate is up to 30 million ILLEGALS in this country. What kind of an impact is that on the rest of us? They get better Education Rights than we do, they are entitled to YOUR Social Security Funds. We pay for the Health because they sure don't jhave any Insurance deducted from their Paychecks.
 
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I'll try to find the article but, IIRC, the prosecutor who tried these guys went after another LEO who shot at a truck filled with illegal aliens. In this latter case his department defended him while the federal government went after a good cop who tried to do his job.

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Found it over at The High Road:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=253179
 
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The despicable thing about the federal government is that they had a choice as to whom they would prosecute and chose the agents.

Both the agents and the crimalien broke the law. In order to get a conviction the prosecutor would need a witness. That means the Feds had to decide to grant immunity to one side and prosecute the other.

It is absolutely appalling that they would choose to grant immunity to the drug running Mexican criminal and choose to prosecute the US citizen Border Patrol public servants.

You can't tell me that this was not done for a reason.
 
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The despicable thing about the federal government is that they had a choice as to whom they would prosecute and chose the agents.

Both the agents and the crimalien broke the law. In order to get a conviction the prosecutor would need a witness. That means the Feds had to decide to grant immunity to one side and prosecute the other.

It is absolutely appalling that they would choose to grant immunity to the drug running Mexican criminal and choose to prosecute the US citizen Border Patrol public servants.

You can't tell me that this was not done for a reason.

what reason?

The Bush Admin has repeatedly said they have reviewed the case and agree with the Justice Dept.

I've seen the articles and screamers blaming Bush for this and for not pardoning them but they come off just like the liberals who blame Bush for everything.

Just saw the White House statement that the Justice department recieved a report the his injuries in the prison scufflr were very minor. Looks like the fringe groups are sensationalizing the scuffle and outright lying about it to me. nutjobs!
 
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what reason?

The Bush Admin has repeatedly said they have reviewed the case and agree with the Justice Dept.
Oh, imagine that, joining forces to push their agenda.

Just saw the White House statement that the Justice department recieved a report the his injuries in the prison scufflr were very minor. Looks like the fringe groups are sensationalizing the scuffle and outright lying about it to me. nutjobs!
Agendas are everywhere, aren't they? [thinking]
 

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Has anyone noticed the amazing coincidence here? Whenever two sides provide different information about any issue, the one that you already agreed with beforehand always tells the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, without any exception, while the other side is invariably the same lying pack of dogs you always suspected them of being. There's rarely any need to investigate any further How convenient.

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Illegal aliens are an invading army. I am willing to support the use any force necessary to repel these invaders. The carnage will cease when these invaders give up their assault on our nation.
 
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I fully agree.
People, Please take a few moments from your day, TODAY and do some research. Go to the links I posted a few posts back. You don't have to believe what they are saying, but at least use them to start your OWN thinking process. I have more links and will gladly share them.
I lived in So Calif and it is amazing the attitudes of these Illegals. I lived next door to a Coyote (one who charges his own people to run them across the border) I watched as 5 Illegals jumped from the trunk of HIS CADILLAC and ran into the garage that was 10 feet from my house and bedroom window. I noticed a young girl, still in the trunk, very grayish white in color and knew she was dead. He closed the trunk and then drove away. I called the Escondido Police and tried to report it and they told me I had to call the Border Patrol. I said I wanted to report a Murder and I was in Downtown Escondido and not on the Border, they insisted I needed to call the BP. I did and they set up Surveillence in my L.R. I learned this Coyote had been escorted back into Mexico, NUMEROUS times (at a cost of about $25,000 then, which was 1976) and in a few months would be back in the states in FULL OPERATION. I lived next door to this Coyote for almost 2 years and he was finally sent back, I can not even begin to guess how many illegals lived in that garage during that time. I use to clean my rifles on my front porch so they all could see me. The BP Agent was from Vermont, so we hit it off good and he openly admitted that these scumbags knew the punishments were minor and that the Gringos were to stupid to really shut down the borders.
We need to get hard on the borders and Yes! treat them worst than a invading Army. People, this may not sound like reason enough, research.. take a few minutes to learn that their intent is to take BACK the Southwestern U.S. "RED DAWN" was BASED on FACTS. It was said that Russia had a pact with Mexico to invade us. The world knows that Canada is a less willing neighbor and if an Invasion would ever happen, it would be through Mexico. Ships and Planes, as in Pearl Harbor would NEVER happen again. Land Invasion could.Mexico is a REAL threat when Fox was having his Army help and assist Illeagals to cross the border, yet try and cross into Mexico and see what happens. It is a HUGE problem, that many in the North East shrug off as a waste of time and money. Take a trip to San Diego and see for yourselves, it isn't just B.S. I say shoot them on sight. The flow will stop almost Immediately.
It is easy for people to Judge these Two BP Agents from our warm couches in the rest of the U.S. But think of these guys who see the INVASIONS every single day, year after year and knowing nothing happens to help them?
 
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