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And now, thanks to my great grandfather, I will soon have 3 passports...if that is possible. [smile]... If anyone cares, the American passport is the nicest passport I have seen. Every other passport is lame.
My first Irish passport was one of the last of the handwritten ones they issued. My current one is machine-readable, with an interesting security feature: my photo microperfed into the ident page - hold it up to the light and you can see me shining through it.

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Huh... My brother has what he calls a diplomatic passport, but it's reddish.

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https://www.army.mil/e2/-images/2010/05/03/72405/size0-army.mil-72405-2010-05-05-050504.jpg

You're right, there's three kinds. Maybe my brother doesn't have a diplomatic passport, or maybe I misremembered the color. Weird.

I didn't know about the "official passport", or the distinction between "official duties" (duties of office?) and the diplomatic passport (foreign service officers)
I love the sh*t brown color they picked.
 
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I'm still sitting here in disbelief that anyone on this forum supports immigration checkpoints in the middle of NH. Even more shocking is that people think that this is a reasonable way to deal with illegal immigration, and that anyone opposing it is either a fan of illegal immigration or flip flopping. Most shocking of all is that the worst they see in the roadside checks is "inconvenience."
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAASgPU1BQc


I kind of get her point, but not entirely. My wife would flip out if I ever tried pulling this with kids in the car. There either is or there isn't a legal means/justification/authority for them holding her, or there is not. If you ARE being held prisoner, don't even prisoners have the right to use a restroom?




Two passports? Unless one is a diplomatic passport and one is a regular passport, or you have a passport card in addition to the regular US passport, what good is the other one?
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwC_IaY3BmY
 
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There either is or there isn't a legal means/justification/authority for them holding her, or there is not. If you ARE being held prisoner, don't even prisoners have the right to use a restroom?
It’s a power trip. Their legal justification is tenuous at best, but it’s irrelevant. They wanted her to submit, and because she didn’t they were going to hassle her, knowing she was a citizen or not wasn’t relevant.

As for their legal justification, it’s bunk.

1. It’s based on the SCOTUS ruling in Martinez-Fuerte, which the court made up their own requirements not found in either the Constitution or statutory law. Courts don’t have authority to do that.

2. Even their bogus ruling only allows these checkpoints for the limited purpose of immigration. Any checkpoint also using them for drugs makes the checkpoints unconstitutional accordingly. Which is probably all of them.

3. The ruling also was under the assumed position they are just brief detentions. Holding people for hours fails that. Sadly other courts have refused to hold them to any time table leaving the brief detention to mean literally any amount of time.

Yes, not allowing one to use the bathroom was purely vindictive and done explicitly for the purpose of punishment, which is illegal. The badge wearing thug are cowards and criminals worse than most illegals they claim to be looking for.
 

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAASgPU1BQc


I kind of get her point, but not entirely. My wife would flip out if I ever tried pulling this with kids in the car. There either is or there isn't a legal means/justification/authority for them holding her, or there is not. If you ARE being held prisoner, don't even prisoners have the right to use a restroom?
Moonbat, but ...

NOT GUILTY!
 
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What’s up with the b.p. Dogs ? Can they sniff out Mexicans?

“ im sorry mam, the dog alerted ,you don’t smell like a citizen.”
 

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Go to 8:35 and watch from there.

When they hold up that laminated card as to the statute of what authority gives them the right to detain you ,

You need to have this laminated card for them.


Constitution of United States of America 1789 (rev. 1992)
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


http://www.constituteproject.org/constitution/United_States_of_America_1992
 
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When they hold up that laminated card as to the statute of what authority gives them the right to detain you ,

You need to have this laminated card for them.


Constitution of United States of America 1789 (rev. 1992)
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
What exactly do you think that would do?
 

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAASgPU1BQc

I kind of get her point, but not entirely. My wife would flip out if I ever tried pulling this with kids in the car. There either is or there isn't a legal means/justification/authority for them holding her, or there is not. If you ARE being held prisoner, don't even prisoners have the right to use a restroom?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwC_IaY3BmY
What border was that? I'm assuming Mexico? I had a buddy of mine pull the same shit while I was driving. We were trying to get back in to country, that is not the time to show the .gov you're right.
 

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Two passports? Unless one is a diplomatic passport and one is a regular passport, or you have a passport card in addition to the regular US passport, what good is the other one?

If you're a dual citizen, it's not like the foreign passport will help your cause at all.

I have to carry 2 passports at the moment.
I have a Chinese 10 year Visa in my old passport, (the passport expired 3 years ago) and my current passport.

I also have a Global Entry Card, a US Passport Card, my MA LTC, my PA LTC, my MA DL, and my International DL with me most times.
 

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I watched part of the video and think she mentioned location as state of New Mexico, so yes, Mexico.
State of New Mexico but she also stated she was nowhere near the border, that she was on a road trip within the US and mentioned a bunch of states.
 

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I have to carry 2 passports at the moment.
I have a Chinese 10 year Visa in my old passport, (the passport expired 3 years ago) and my current passport.

I also have a Global Entry Card, a US Passport Card, my MA LTC, my PA LTC, my MA DL, and my International DL with me most times.
Yep, you can even have 2 valid passports. I just applied for a second one so that I can keep traveling for work while one of my passports is at a consulate for a business visa. Also in case one needs to travel to Arab countries, many of them will deny entry if you have any stamps from Israel or even exit stamps from land border crossings in neighboring countries.
 

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I don't give a damn what the Supreme Court says, border checkpoints that are not at a foreign country border are complete, total, illegal BS.
Yup it was just like she stated in the video...they used to ask you to produce your papers in Nazi Germany.
 

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I don't give a damn what the Supreme Court says, border checkpoints that are not at a foreign country border are complete, total, illegal BS.
Inside the country, if they aren't in hot pursuit FROM the border, it seems to me they need to catch you doing something wrong.

What SHOULD happen is, when you come to the legitimate attention of police (robbing a gas station, whatever...) if you're arrested / detained for a legit reason, then part of the process is determining if you're in this country legally. If not, once everything else is squared away, you get sent home. To wherever in the world Home is.
 

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Drug evidence tossed from last summer's CBP checkpoint on 93:

Judge suppresses evidence after finding 2017 arrests at border checkpoint violated state, U.S. Constitutions | New Hampshire

Judge suppresses evidence after finding 2017 arrests at border checkpoint violated state, U.S. Constitutions
PLYMOUTH — A judge has ruled that evidence in 16 arrests that were made last summer by Woodstock police at a checkpoint set up on Interstate 93 by U.S. Customs and Border Protection was unconstitutionally obtained and cannot be used at trial.

In a 14-page order dated May 1, but released on Friday, Plymouth District Court Judge Thomas Rappa granted the motion to suppress brought by the defendants on the grounds that the searches that yielded the evidence against them — mostly involving possession of small amounts of marijuana — were done in violation of the New Hampshire Constitution, which, Rappa noted, “governs prosecution of state law in state court.”

Separately, Rappa also granted the motion because the state “failed to present any evidence” that Customs and Border Protection’s dog “Sam,” working with his handler at the checkpoints in August was “properly trained and certified.”
 

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Drug evidence tossed from last summer's CBP checkpoint on 93:

Judge suppresses evidence after finding 2017 arrests at border checkpoint violated state, U.S. Constitutions | New Hampshire

Judge suppresses evidence after finding 2017 arrests at border checkpoint violated state, U.S. Constitutions
PLYMOUTH — A judge has ruled that evidence in 16 arrests that were made last summer by Woodstock police at a checkpoint set up on Interstate 93 by U.S. Customs and Border Protection was unconstitutionally obtained and cannot be used at trial.

In a 14-page order dated May 1, but released on Friday, Plymouth District Court Judge Thomas Rappa granted the motion to suppress brought by the defendants on the grounds that the searches that yielded the evidence against them — mostly involving possession of small amounts of marijuana — were done in violation of the New Hampshire Constitution, which, Rappa noted, “governs prosecution of state law in state court.”

Separately, Rappa also granted the motion because the state “failed to present any evidence” that Customs and Border Protection’s dog “Sam,” working with his handler at the checkpoints in August was “properly trained and certified.”
Awesome. F*** those checkpoints.
And why would they even need a dog? Is it trained to smell illegals?

Will they reimburse the money it cost the defendants to fight this crap?

I'm sure a lot of NES members are disappointed. I know a lot of you love this unconstitutional/big government crap.
 
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