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Illinois Cops: Police Dogs Must Be Killed if State Legalizes Marijuana

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Reptile, May 12, 2018.

  1. CCW

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    My point was made several posts ago. Would you care to answer the question? Why do the police have resistance to legalizing marijuana?
     
  2. fencer

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    Why can't they search the vehicle? While reefer may be legal, being behind the wheel and smoking it is not. And I don't know if anyone has told Joe, but if a cop really wants to search your car, he is just going to say that he saw something tucked between the seat that he thought was a gun, grenade, weapon of mass destruction, burglary tools, plutonium, whatever.
     
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    I like the Dead Kennedys. The rest I have no use for![rofl]

    As for killing dogs because pot is legalized.
    I now have even less respect for stupid officers in the police force.

    How about transferring them to other departments like the ATF or letting the be adopted as pets...The dump police not the dogs...

    What a hard problem to solve?[slap]
     
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    Complete and utter garbage, relocate them if necessary. Send the dogs to a part of the country they still can do their job properly. This sort of scare tactic they should be ashamed.
     
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  5. weekendracer

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    "Most of us" don't. Now, Chiefs and Agency heads? Sure, it's a budgetary thing. Drugs are bad, give us money. If you could walk up to your boss and say one word to get a ton more money, you wouldn't do it?
     
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    I'll take one of them free de-milled GSD's. Bet I can retrain them too...
     
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    What are they going to do about the cops that can't be retrained?
     
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  8. enbloc

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    Promote them.
     
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    Some people have morals you know. Or maybe you don’t.
     
  10. weekendracer

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    It's going to hurt when you fall from that high pedestal you place yourself on.
     
  11. CCW

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    My point was made several posts ago. Would you care to answer the question? Why do the police have resistance to legalizing marijuana?
    So it’s all about the money. You don’t care about doing what’s just do what’s right huh? Congrats on being part of the problem. And the problem is an epidemic. It’s like a vile disgusting hideous disease.
     
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    Oh good...maybe he'll quit....

    “This one is a tough one for me, because my views do not exactly line up with my own state, and it’s something that I’m struggling with,” Rep. Joe Kennedy III said in a podcast interview this week with Vox.com’s Ezra Klein.
     
  14. Tarsook

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    What a hot take. Most of the cops and the legislature should be put down long before the dogs that could EASILY be re-homed.
     
  15. weekendracer

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    Calm down, you're stuttering while typing. How can I be part of the problem when I don't submit budgets? I don't have any part of asking for additional manpower. I fail to see your logic as it's directed at me. But if it helps lower your blood pressure, have at it, vent away.

    Weekendracer only pawn in the game of life.
     
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    Its a god damn plant. The fact the gov made it illegal is absurd. Can we ban poison ivy? I got that shit last year and it was awful. Why doesn't anyone want to ban poison ivy?!?!?
     
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    Weekendracer is explaining the problem, not saying he supports it.
     
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    The issue here is that if marijuana is illegal, the police can use the smell of marijuana (or often the claim that they smell it) to go on a fishing expedition and search a car in the hopes of finding something more serious. The assumption is that marijuana users are likely doing or hiding something else that's even more illegal. They don't really care about the weed. It's an excuse and just marginally better than justifying a search on the basis of a black person in a white neighborhood (or a white person in a black neighborhood) are probably there in the pursuit of illegal activity.

    If you're in favor of giving the government more reasons to chip away at the fourth amendment, I guess you're entitled to that opinion.
     
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    The whole drug war is a massive civil liberties giveaway. Drugs are small and can be hidden anywhere, so searches can be very invasive and thorough. Detection is often very subjective and not easily challenged after the fact. Falsely signaling dogs, claims of visible impairment, or the smell of weed, all totally subjective and impossible to challenge later.
     
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    Actually, that's true in a lot of places in the EU regardless of whether weed is legal there or not.
     
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    Not at all. My question was, seriously, if a cop pulls over a motorist and smells weed, can't he still search the vehicle? And I do believe that some cops will claim to have seen something in plain view, then conduct a search.
     
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    I bet their arguement against that is that no mere citizen can handle or should be allowed to handle a police dog.
     
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    no. not in MA anyway. SJC ruled that even the smell of burnt pot isn't probable cause for a search because it's perfectly plausable that the smell is not coming from the driver, is an old odor just on the person's clothes so doesn't reasonably indicate current intoxication, or something similar.


    edit, I may be wrong on this...maybe it's only good for unburnt pot stink.
     
  25. firestorm

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    Basically as I have heard it the theory is the smell of burnt weed is not probable cause for a search as it does not indicate an amount of it more than is legal. It's the same smell from a tiny amount to as much as you can stuff into the car so the smell doesn't mean anything illegal is going on.
     
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    LOL you sound like Joe Arpaio.

    No one steals anything to fund a weed habit...heroin sure. Weed no.
     
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    People sell their souls for heroin, they sell their junk to get weed.
     
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  29. Tarsook

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    Which is utter bullshit.

    The MSP just had two police dogs come up on retirement that their partners were not able to take in at the end of their career. A drug dog and a cadaver dog.
    They put out a request for anyone interested in giving the dogs their final homes, to apply to be vetted.
    They got 10,000 requests.

    The MSP deserves all of the shit in the world for a million different reasons, but I was happy to read that email and see they got atleast that right.
     
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