If an employer's policy says No Firearms in the building. Can I legally Conceal Carry?

[tinhorn]

My part-time gig isn't a career track--that ship has sailed. I like the extra dough as well as the yoga pants and the occasional sexagenarian cock tease. Carrying a firearm is against company policy. So is telling a customer where to find an item instead of escorting them to it. I'll worry about the revolver in my pocket when I'm no longer the only swinging dick that actually takes a customer to the item they seek.

Just tonight I went out the front door to shag shopping carts (actually to have a smoke--Nathan can grab the carts later) when three dudes NOT dressed like Jehovah's Witnesses were beeline rushing into the store. WTF? I went right back inside and prepared to escort them to any item they wanted, if you get my drift.

It's also against policy for teenybopper employees to bare their midriffs. A couple of them flaunt the rule when the manager isn't around. They are learning that bellybuttons do not frighten dirty old men, except for Nathan's. Rules, shmules. They're more like guidelines.

 

[M1911]

If you need a gun at work, getting fired for needing that gun should be the least of your worries.

If you are worried you will drop the gun, maybe work on your holster.

Out of everyone I know that carries I only know of one person that dropped a gun. My old boss, a good friend, texted me a few weeks back, he was at Walmart in Florida and his gun fell. Aparently a screw came lose on his holster. He has been carrying for over 10 years.

Besides him, I have never met anyone that dropped a gun.

I’ve never dropped a gun. I have, however, had a magazine in my pocket fall out when I crossed my legs. In another occasion, I’ve had a magazine carrier come off my belt.

I think it is unwise to think that the only way someone would spot your gun is if you had to draw it or you dropped it. I’ve had my cover garment ride up, exposing my gun.

I’m not saying that as a consequence you should not carry — that’s your decision. What I’m saying is that it might be more likely for someone to spot your gun than some might expect.

 

[drgrant]

I’m not saying that as a consequence you should not carry — that’s your decision. What I’m saying is that it might be more likely for someone to spot your gun than some might expect.

This problem is worse if you have a job that requires you occasionally to move into awkward positions. Like for example I have Moonbat clients who occasionally will pull a "Columbo" job on me (one more thing.... lol ) and if I know I'm just not quickly entering and leaving their house I stash my gun locked up in the car....

 

[SgtHal75]

If you need a gun at work, getting fired for needing that gun should be the least of your worries.

If you are worried you will drop the gun, maybe work on your holster.

Out of everyone I know that carries I only know of one person that dropped a gun. My old boss, a good friend, texted me a few weeks back, he was at Walmart in Florida and his gun fell. Aparently a screw came lose on his holster. He has been carrying for over 10 years.

Besides him, I have never met anyone that dropped a gun.

Happens to the FBI all the time…


View: https://youtu.be/8WgxUoky4kg

 

[SgtHal75]

As with society in general, there are usually exceptions for persons at the top of the food chain. I doubt you could ever get near the likes of Gates, Bezos or the Zuck without being with a few feet of a gun dedicated to their protection - even when on their "no guns" corporate facilities.

There’s a fix for that….

 

[whacko]

Signage in mass is not "binding". Which only means you can't be charged with a crime for not obeying a sign on private business type property. The owner can ask you to leave though, terminate employment etc. If you refuse to leave then your guilty of trespass only.

I had a nitwit female officer I served with in the Army that we got into a debate about this. Topic came up when a guy at a movie theater in Louisiana made youtube because he was asked to leave when an employee saw his side arm under his shirt. He left but cops were in the parking lot and asked him for his ID etc......they let him leave as he was legally in possession and carrying the gun. After seeig the vid on phones a group if us start debating...... Female army officer starts blabbing about he should have been arrested cuz he had a gun. I used the "movie theater snack" argument with her......you know....movie thraters have signs that say no snacks allowed to make you purchase their over priced crap.....if Nana ignore the sign and gets caught with a bag of peanuts in her purse what would they charge her with? That's right nothing because she didn't break any law....mshe was legally in possession of the peanuts lol. Same with guns......if the person is legally in possession of the gun all they are guilty of is trespass but only if they are asked to leave and refuse. She kept repeating "its different because it's a gun". No sweetie.....its not different.

 

[Hailstorm]

Plot twist

Reptile is a male stripper.

Must be the famous Crack Carry

 

[Boghog1]

does the sign show a picture of a Glock, a Beretta or a 1911¿ the simple solution is to just not carry what is shown on the no guns sign, initially at my work they had a silhouette of a Beretta and it didn't apply to me but when they switched it to a Glock I had to start carrying the sig, I still can't determine the make of the revolver so I opt for a semiautomatic to be safe.

 

[weekendracer]

It was never on purpose.

I mean I REALLY work close to people. Like shoulder to shoulder an inch apart. Must always be very clean and no bad breath. Our company handbook even says we have to shower before work to avoid these problems.

I can think of a handful of times over the years were some folks were a bit stinky - usually on 90 degree days. It happens.

At least once a girl accidentally grabbed me in the privates! We acted like it didn't happen.

Also, a girl was handing me something and she was not paying attention and the back of my hand touched her shirt on her chest! Instead of saying I was sorry, (it was not my fault though) I didn't say anything and was hoping she didn't notice that I noticed.

We are on camera anyway so I had evidence that it was not my fault but nothing happened.

Fortunately, I have always been a gentleman around these girls over the years.

No way to hide a CCW at that job!!!

He's a DJ at a stripclub.

Then again, I have flipflopped on Reptile over the years. @Reptile is a 'Pat' to me now.

 

[timbo]

I've carried concealed for the past 20+ years, everywhere and at every job. The buildings I worked in had zero security and so I carried. No one ever knew. The day I retired, I told my best friend that I had carried every day I was there and he smiled and patted his pocket. He said I was far from alone in that building. I left it there.

 

[Enzo]

Are you asking about a Hospital gig? No bueno…..

 

[Asaltweapon]

You also have a right to tell your boss to eff off. I am pretty sure you could imagine the result.

Raise your hand if you have done this.

 

[Palladin]

One word

Mucko

Wakefield Company Connected To Workplace Massacre Flourishes

Many thought Edgewater Technology would not survive after a gunman killed seven people in 2000. It is now considered one of the fastest growing public companies in the country.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Palladin]

My boss carries....not an issue

 

[safetyfirst2125]

Curious if an employer can prevent me from protecting myself.

I have the same policy. My company even has a policy forbidding firearms from being stored on your vehicle in company property, even if properly and legally secured.

Short answer is: legally you’re fine, assuming you don’t work on prohibited property.

Employment-wise, you’re violating company policy and consequences can follow if you are reported.

Having said that, if you choose to carry, concealed means concealed.

 

[kalash]

I hope OP doesn't work on federal property or at a school.

 

[garandman]

We just completely removed any reference to weapons in the Employee Manual.

 

[ChevyGuy91]

I hope OP doesn't work on federal property or at a school.

Who cares if he does? Big boy rules guys, carry a gun if you want, accept the responsibility if you get caught.

 

[Mark from MA]

Can you exercise your 1st amendment at work?

No.

Work is at will within their policy.

I can't go around saying whatever i feel like saying.

Same applies to carry...if the policy is against it....then it is what it is.

 

[FalArAk]

No.

Work is at will within their policy.

I can't go around saying whatever i feel like saying.

Same applies to carry...if the policy is against it....then it is what it is.

Ya, I know.. I was trying to exercise OP's brain

 

[namedpipes]

Can you exercise your 1st amendment at work?

No. Not at all.

 

[ThePreBanMan]

I have the right to bear arms. It's unfortunate they would fire me for exercising my rights just like others their religion at work

Your right to bear arms, as defined in the 2nd amendment protects you from the GOVERNMENT taking away that right. It does absolutely nothing for you on private property. Their house, their rules. If you don't like it, work somewhere else.

 

[namedpipes]

If you CCW, make sure that nobody knows you are a gun guy.

I ran my mouth about have a LTC one time.

Since then I was frequently bump frisked by somebody in authority.

I never did CCW at work.

I my line of work I get "felt up" by customers and employees alike due to close working conditions.

If I ever did CCW they would notice.

I loved the job so I never CCW to lose it.

If you do decide to CCW at work, be prepared to be fired.

Pick you battles carefully.

You could try Keister Carry again?

 

[kalash]

Who cares if he does? Big boy rules guys, carry a gun if you want, accept the responsibility if you get caught.

He cares - he asked the question.

 

[SFC13557]

...actually...

Come to think of it, if I was caught carrying at work, I'd be fired and jailed. So.

Because you work in a public school I assume.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

It is interesting that employers have more power over the lawful on the 1st outside or work than the 2nd.

Post dissident thought on social media and you might be decruited for harming the company image. Talk about shooting recreationally and even most woke companies won't discharge you.

And the courts have generally not been supportive of employees terminated for unwoke postings on social media or even in private emails that are leaked.

 

[Broc]

Signage in mass is not "binding". Which only means you can't be charged with a crime for not obeying a sign on private business type property. The owner can ask you to leave though, terminate employment etc. If you refuse to leave then your guilty of trespass only.

I had a nitwit female officer I served with in the Army that we got into a debate about this. Topic came up when a guy at a movie theater in Louisiana made youtube because he was asked to leave when an employee saw his side arm under his shirt. He left but cops were in the parking lot and asked him for his ID etc......they let him leave as he was legally in possession and carrying the gun. After seeig the vid on phones a group if us start debating...... Female army officer starts blabbing about he should have been arrested cuz he had a gun. I used the "movie theater snack" argument with her......you know....movie thraters have signs that say no snacks allowed to make you purchase their over priced crap.....if Nana ignore the sign and gets caught with a bag of peanuts in her purse what would they charge her with? That's right nothing because she didn't break any law....mshe was legally in possession of the peanuts lol. Same with guns......if the person is legally in possession of the gun all they are guilty of is trespass but only if they are asked to leave and refuse. She kept repeating "its different because it's a gun". No sweetie.....its not different.

But you have to keep in mind the law in different States and not everyone knows every State's law.

In some States the guy could be breaking the law if there is a sign that says "NO GUNS".

 

[Broc]

It is interesting that employers have more power over the lawful on the 1st outside or work than the 2nd.

Post dissident thought on social media and you might be decruited for harming the company image. Talk about shooting recreationally and even most woke companies won't discharge you.

And the courts have generally not been supportive of employees terminated for unwoke postings on social media or even in private emails that are leaked.

How many of those "recreational shooting videos" go viral?

The people that get fired do so because they tend to speak a lot of sh*t that goes viral and usually the stuff they talk about goes against corporate policy. Additionally those people tend to be on the crazy side so there is probably a file full of sh*t and complaints.

But shooting also gets people in trouble when it goes viral. Remember the dentist that shot the Lion? ... did he have to close?

It is just not as often as the crazy Karen with purple hair going full retard.

 

[whacko]

But you have to keep in mind the law in different States and not everyone knows every State's law.

In some States the guy could be breaking the law if there is a sign that says "NO GUNS".

Mass is not binding signage. Neither is liousiana. That was all part of the "debate".

 

[Broc]

Mass is not binding signage. Neither is liousiana. That was all part of the "debate".

I agree, but not everyone knows that. Many people approach those arguments thinking how it works in their home State.