If All You Had Was A Pre-98 Glock 19 Gen 2... Could You Survive In Massachusetts?

jkelly1229 said:
As opposed to the myriad of other @Reptile threads that are thought provoking literary masterpieces on par with the illiad and shakespere?
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APFSDS said:
My GF has some chronic health conditions and has had to use an ambulance before. I can see it now: "sorry, we can't send help, our electric ambulance is on the charger."
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How is that any different than "our ambulance if out of fuel"? Electric service vehicles are being designed to be able to spend more time on the road than then current gas powered ones. Charging time included.
 
VigilantesLiberi said:
How is that any different than "our ambulance if out of fuel"? Electric service vehicles are being designed to be able to spend more time on the road than then current gas powered ones. Charging time included.
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It takes 5 minutes to fuel up a diesel ambulance vs. much longer for electric. Plus they work in extreme cold (you have to plug in a block heater to start it, but still) whereas electric does not, or with reduced range. Plus how do you charge it when there is a blackout from crappy energy policy? For instance:

The commies think they know better than the utility how much natural gas they need:
New Report from Healey Indicates No Pipeline Needed

Predictably:
Eversource CEO Warns New England May Not Have Enough Natural Gas to Last the Winter

America Has Plenty of Natural Gas. So Why Is New England Left Out in the Cold? -

Renewables, as they stand, cannot supply enough base-load power. MA won't allow construction of nuclear plants and mandates that a certain % of power come from renewables. So even if your electric ambulance had a 2000 mile range the grid here can't handle charging tens of thousands of electric vehicles, especially in a storm when we would need it most. Hell, it can't handle just a few electric vehicles NOW: the utility warned us that we were going to have blackouts last winter because of lack of capacity...good luck if you have a heat pump like is now mandated in new construction in MA. And when you get to the ER it's full of illegals and there is a 14 hour wait, plus there aren't any beds available if you need to get admitted (I can tell you that from personal experience). And if you need certain types of healthcare (like a transplant) hopefully you're the right race, otherwise you're out of luck (see point four here).
 
APFSDS said:
It takes 5 minutes to fuel up a diesel ambulance vs. much longer for electric. Plus they work in extreme cold (you have to plug in a block heater to start it, but still) whereas electric does not, or with reduced range. Plus how do you charge it when there is a blackout from crappy energy policy? For instance:

The commies think they know better than the utility how much natural gas they need:
New Report from Healey Indicates No Pipeline Needed

Predictably:
Eversource CEO Warns New England May Not Have Enough Natural Gas to Last the Winter

America Has Plenty of Natural Gas. So Why Is New England Left Out in the Cold? -

Renewables, as they stand, cannot supply enough base-load power. MA won't allow construction of nuclear plants and mandates that a certain % of power come from renewables. So even if your electric ambulance had a 2000 mile range the grid here can't handle charging tens of thousands of electric vehicles, especially in a storm when we would need it most. Hell, it can't handle just a few electric vehicles NOW: the utility warned us that we were going to have blackouts last winter because of lack of capacity...good luck if you have a heat pump like is now mandated in new construction in MA. And when you get to the ER it's full of illegals and there is a 14 hour wait, plus there aren't any beds available if you need to get admitted (I can tell you that from personal experience). And if you need certain types of healthcare (like a transplant) hopefully you're the right race, otherwise you're out of luck (see point four here).
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That's a lot of assumptions. There can be a gas shortage too. I agree with what you're saying about the power grid, but that's speculation on the worst case scenarios at this point.

Knowing how the towns where I live actually share their ambulances, I think there may be some validity to what you're saying. In a perfect scenario the cars just stay in their area and then all that math makes sense. In reality they never have enough. I listen to their radios sometimes, they will often send a car 3-4 towns over because there are not enough of them.
 
chris_1001 said:
I skipped ahead from the first to the last post.

WTF?

@Reptile

I have a brand new g19 gen 5

$1200 FTF cash

Matching numbers

EFA-10

ETA: Grandfathered, grandmothered, grandpersoned…
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He got a stash of old useless gen2 garbage and tries to peddle it here now like it’s some kind of a salvation.
 
APFSDS said:
It takes 5 minutes to fuel up a diesel ambulance vs. much longer for electric. Plus they work in extreme cold (you have to plug in a block heater to start it, but still) whereas electric does not, or with reduced range. Plus how do you charge it when there is a blackout from crappy energy policy? For instance:

The commies think they know better than the utility how much natural gas they need:
New Report from Healey Indicates No Pipeline Needed

Predictably:
Eversource CEO Warns New England May Not Have Enough Natural Gas to Last the Winter

America Has Plenty of Natural Gas. So Why Is New England Left Out in the Cold? -

Renewables, as they stand, cannot supply enough base-load power. MA won't allow construction of nuclear plants and mandates that a certain % of power come from renewables. So even if your electric ambulance had a 2000 mile range the grid here can't handle charging tens of thousands of electric vehicles, especially in a storm when we would need it most. Hell, it can't handle just a few electric vehicles NOW: the utility warned us that we were going to have blackouts last winter because of lack of capacity...good luck if you have a heat pump like is now mandated in new construction in MA. And when you get to the ER it's full of illegals and there is a 14 hour wait, plus there aren't any beds available if you need to get admitted (I can tell you that from personal experience). And if you need certain types of healthcare (like a transplant) hopefully you're the right race, otherwise you're out of luck (see point four here).
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Total off topic, but I just talked about it with solar salesman I got a contract with. Eversource has 0 reasons to increase actual power production as is a for profit operation and scarcity of a supply only increases prices while consumption and demand is not affected by price.

Invest to be self sufficient now, or suffer badly tomorrow, it only going to get much worse. Now we pay efficiently.34c per kW even with a reduced town rate of .15 per kW. Sales estimates they have show a .65c - $1 per kW in 10 years time.
 
paul73 said:
He got a stash of old useless gen2 garbage and tries to peddle it here now like it’s some kind of a salvation.
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This bill must be a nightmare for him. I can only imagine the amount of stuff he has stashed away that was formally known as "pre-ban" but is now known as "old, beat up stuff".
 
VigilantesLiberi said:
That's a lot of assumptions. There can be a gas shortage too. I agree with what you're saying about the power grid, but that's speculation on the worst case scenarios at this point.

Knowing how the towns where I live actually share their ambulances, I think there may be some validity to what you're saying. In a perfect scenario the cars just stay in their area and then all that math makes sense. In reality they never have enough. I listen to their radios sometimes, they will often send a car 3-4 towns over because there are not enough of them.
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Sure, All the electrics sure worked well during Helene
We'll let you take the first ride on the all new electric chopper during a storm
 

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Reptile said:
If there were no new Glocks available by ANY means (FTF or Frame Game) - Could you survive???
I'd just like to know if only owning an old Glock (I know we can get newer ones) would put a person over the edge to move out of Massachusetts.

I'd say "no".

If you have a great job, home, family, and friends here in Massachusetts - I'd rather have all that rather than move away just to own a new Glock.

It would be a sad lonely life sitting in a new house with just Gen 5 and a new Noveske at the table and nothing else.

Even a Glock Gen 2 is better than some other newer manufacturers.

Could you survive with only a Gen 2 Glock?
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The only possible way to survive in MA with a Pre-98 Glock 19 Gen 2 is to have at least a dozen or more $400 pre-ban mags stashed away for go-time. I’m buying if you are selling...
 
Individualist said:
The only possible way to survive in MA with a Pre-98 Glock 19 Gen 2 is to have at least a dozen or more $400 pre-ban mags stashed away for go-time. I’m buying if you are selling...
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$400? I can sell you several at that price, they even have new springs.
 
Reptile said:
If there were no new Glocks available by ANY means (FTF or Frame Game) - Could you survive???
I'd just like to know if only owning an old Glock (I know we can get newer ones) would put a person over the edge to move out of Massachusetts.

I'd say "no".

If you have a great job, home, family, and friends here in Massachusetts - I'd rather have all that rather than move away just to own a new Glock.

It would be a sad lonely life sitting in a new house with just Gen 5 and a new Noveske at the table and nothing else.

Even a Glock Gen 2 is better than some other newer manufacturers.

Could you survive with only a Gen 2 Glock?
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Ain't they ILLEGAL?!
 
kalash said:
Not if you drive up to the NH border.
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I know you all think I’m a hoarder but I only have about 10 square 9mm. That is my own stash until I croak.
I have about 40 G21 u notch 13 rounders but they are not valuable even though they are brand new.

I have hundreds of new AR pre bans in storage. They are worth $100 each to me but nobody else. Cases and cases of dated Colts in sealed cases from the 1970’s.
Now, those I’m hoarding. Bought them for $3,000 per case from gun shows in Pennsylvania 10 years ago.
 
Reptile said:
I know you all think I’m a hoarder but I only have about 10 square 9mm. That is my own stash until I croak.
I have about 40 G21 u notch 13 rounders but they are not valuable even though they are brand new.

I have hundreds of new AR pre bans in storage. They are worth $100 each to me but nobody else. Cases and cases of dated Colts in sealed cases from the 1970’s.
Now, those I’m hoarding. Bought them for $3,000 per case from gun shows in Pennsylvania 10 years ago.
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Why hold on so long?
 
headednorth said:
Why hold on so long?
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I guess I’m a hoarder and collector.
I don’t even use this stuff.
I’ve been using the same 5 AR mags for 20 years.
My Gucci bags and sneakers never leave the house.
I have enough new in bag Kitanica clothes to start by one boutique. Yet, I only wear 2 pants and 2 shorts all year.
I have a sickness.
 
Reptile said:
I guess I’m a hoarder and collector.
I don’t even use this stuff.
I’ve been using the same 5 AR mags for 20 years.
My Gucci bags and sneakers never leave the house.
I have enough new in bag Kitanica clothes to start by one boutique. Yet, I only wear 2 pants and 2 shorts all year.
I have a sickness.
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I hope for your own sanity you never sit down and figure out what you spent on all that and what better uses you could've found for that cash.
 
Chris, you need to spend more time satisfyling the ladies than posting on the board.

Can you link the board the women frequent to post about you? It would be hilarious in a big way.
 
headednorth said:
I hope for your own sanity you never sit down and figure out what you spent on all that and what better uses you could've found for that cash.
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I have a good idea.
It’s shameful.
Yet, I don’t regret it much because those possessions made me so happy.
Now, if I instead put that all into gold or bitcoin it gets depressing.
At least it didn’t go into booze, hookers, and blow.
I guess that’s when you really are sick. When you don’t realize you are sick.
 
Fixxah said:
Chris, you need to spend more time satisfyling the ladies than posting on the board.

Can you link the board the women frequent to post about you? It would be hilarious in a big way.
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Need to keep OPSEC.
My girls are active on certain fashion related forums. They have wasted an equal amount of money. What was MY money.

Sometimes they have wild stuff in their search histories. Maybe they are trolling me - IDK.

I don’t have time to snoop and spy on the and I trust them. But, if they ever brought disease into the house from cheating on me I’d throw them out.
 
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