I Can't Believe I'm Rooting for Harry Reid

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You probably know that Democrat Harry Reid is the Senate Majority leader and he is also facing a very strong republican challenge.

What you may not know is that Senator Reid is VERY pro gun.
Pretty much everyone is, they have to be to get elected in Nevada.

Reids not only protected shooters' rights, he's funneled "stimulus" money into the new Clark County Shooting Park.

Take a guess how much?? A million, nope

2 million? - Nope

10 Milion - Nope

How is $64,000,000. You heard that right. Nevadans have a PUBLIC shooting sports mecca right outside of Vegas that they can use, care of Harry Reid.

So we have a quandry. If Reid loses along with enough other Democrats we have a Republican controlled Senate. All is good.

But the more likely scenario is pretty frightening. Reid loses but the Republicans do NOT take over the senate.

In that case the Senate Majority leader becomes . . . are you ready for this??

Chuck Schumer.

Probably the most anti-gun Senator in the chamber.
Senator Reid has been invaluable to gun owners. He has used his power as majority leader to disallow anti-gun ammendments to be added to unrelated bills. He has in fact made sure that most anti-gun ideas never get out of committee.

This has kept the Majority Democrats from ever getting the opportunity to vote on an anti-gun measure.

In a Schumer run Senate, every anti-gun idea would get debated. Every anti-gun amendment would get a vote.

And every anti-gun bill would get a floor vote in the Senate.

Not a good thing.

So, while I'm not a one issue voter, I don't usually have to make hard choices. The pro-gun guys typically represent all the other views I hold.

So there it is. In a warped way, I hope Harry Reid wins in November.

just thought you might find this interesting.
 
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The perfect example of the inconsistency of some people's attitude regarding the NRA. If the NRA backs an otherwise good candidate who's weak on gun issues, they get blasted as the "National Republican Association". If they back a genuine pro-gun candidate, people get pissed about other issues where the candidate is bad. One wonders how they'd feel if the issue were a candidate opposed to Obamacare, bailouts, government regulations and the rest, but with a crappy position regarding guns.

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My understanding was that the NRA did not endorse a candidate in that contest.
 
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Harry Reid is pro gun?

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Apparently you forgot about the Federal Assault Weapons ban that was passed by Congress and signed by Clinton back in 1994.

Harry Reid voted for it. (And if you don't believe me go look for yourself)

Therefore, IMHO, Harry Reid is not and will never be pro gun. He is ACTING like he is pro gun because it is the politically convenient thing to do. If you think otherwise, you are a fool.
 

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One wonders how they'd feel if the issue were a candidate opposed to Obamacare, bailouts, government regulations and the rest, but with a crappy position regarding guns.

Ken

You've described Gov Christie and most people here love him.
 

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Harry Reid flip flops back and forth depending on what he thinks will gain him favor & votes.
 
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Harry Reid is pro gun?

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Apparently you forgot about the Federal Assault Weapons ban that was passed by Congress and signed by Clinton back in 1994.

Harry Reid voted for it. (And if you don't believe me go look for yourself)

Therefore, IMHO, Harry Reid is not and will never be pro gun. He is ACTING like he is pro gun because it is the politically convenient thing to do. If you think otherwise, you are a fool.

You need to read something other than Republican talking points.

1) when the AWB was presented as an amendment to the Omnibus (which means huge) Crime Bill, he voted AGAINST it.
2) he did vote for the OCB in its entirety. And he has said it was a mistake.
3) When Eric Holder pushed for an AWB in 2009, Reid said he would use his powers as Senate Majority Leader to block it.

Read up before you go spewing inconsistencies.

Would you rather have Chuck Schumer???
 
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Don't forget one more thing. Michael Bloomberg and Arnold Schwarzenager were Republicans.

I'm not interested in debating ANY OTHER issue. I'm strictly talking about gun rights. And Harry Reid is a friend of the gun owner.
 
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S.1805 was the bill in 2004 to protect the gun industry from all those idiotic lawsuits brought forth by the states and cities. Reid not only supported the bill, he lobbied other southern/western Dems so that the Republicans had a filibuster proof majority to get this bill passed.

Did you know that President Bush said that if Congress put an AWB renewal on his desk HE WOULD SIGN IT!!!!. Sorry buddy, its not all black and white. We have Western and Southern Dems and Urban Republicans. Neither vote the way you anticipate.

Senate 2637 would have renewed the AWB. Guess what. Reid voted against it. 8 Republican senators (about 20% of the Republicans) voted FOR it.

Cosponsored S1414 to repeal the DC gun ban.

Sorry Reid does not go back and forth. I defy you to find a Reid vote against gun rights after the 94 AWB.

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One would have to look at the consistency of his voting record, especially when his vote would count. The Senate is well-known for vote trading, a practice in which certain Senators are absolved from having to vote the party line because their votes would not make a difference to the outcome.

And I bet that shooting park was built with union labor. He had to provide something for them to work on since his colleagues and his President trashed the rest of Nevada's economy.

I also note that Reid's big pro-gun votes and statements occurred late in 2009, just when people were beginning to gear up for next month's elections.

Color me skeptical.
 
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S.1805 was the bill in 2004 to protect the gun industry from all those idiotic lawsuits brought forth by the states and cities. Reid not only supported the bill, he lobbied other southern/western Dems so that the Republicans had a filibuster proof majority to get this bill passed.

Did you know that President Bush said that if Congress put an AWB renewal on his desk HE WOULD SIGN IT!!!!. Sorry buddy, its not all black and white. We have Western and Southern Dems and Urban Republicans. Neither vote the way you anticipate.

Senate 2637 would have renewed the AWB. Guess what. Reid voted against it. 8 Republican senators (about 20% of the Republicans) voted FOR it.

Cosponsored S1414 to repeal the DC gun ban.

Sorry Reid does not go back and forth. I defy you to find a Reid vote against gun rights after the 94 AWB.

Don


Are you MAD?

Here is a list of votes by Reid against Gun rights.

http://gunowners.org/is-harry-reid-pro-gun-or-anti-gun.htm
 

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Sorry Reid does not go back and forth. I defy you to find a Reid vote against gun rights after the 94 AWB.

Don

He voted for the AWB. That's enough to be dead forever, as far as I'm concerned... That should be a permanent F minus.

Reid is a puke. He's a flaming moonbat most of the time, just like Arlen Sphincter. Any pro gun votes out of him are appeasement for the voter base in the locales he wants votes from.

IIRC, it's people like him and Arlen that end up boning us the most. They give the appearance of being pro gun most of the time, and then when it's important, they throw their balls into the sewer or don't want to sack up. (IIRC arlen spinchter missed a hearing or somesuch which would have prevented the AWB from even exiting committee, but he didn't show. )

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He voted for the AWB. That's enough to be dead forever, as far as I'm concerned... That should be a permanent F minus.

Reid is a puke. He's a flaming moonbat most of the time, just like Arlen Sphincter. Any pro gun votes out of him are appeasement for the voter base in the locales he wants votes from.

IIRC, it's people like him and Arlen that end up boning us the most. They give the appearance of being pro gun most of the time, and then when it's important, they throw their balls into the sewer or don't want to sack up. (IIRC arlen spinchter missed a hearing or somesuch which would have prevented the AWB from even exiting committee, but he didn't show. )

-Mike

Ok then I'll take that as you not being able to come up with an anti-gun vote since the AWB vote.
 

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Ok then I'll take that as you not being able to come up with an anti-gun vote since the AWB vote.

That's like saying you're going to forgive a guy for raping one of your children because 10 years later he donated a kidney to a dying child. I sure as hell wouldn't.

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Reid is a dirtbag and I wouldn't vote for him if he ran unopposed.He does what he's told by his socialist masters.

This is what I mean. I'm talking about strictly his gun votes.
He's a scumbag socialist.

But he's pro-gun.

And again, think of who his likely successor will be if he loses. Chuck Schumer. THE MOST ANTI-GUN SENATOR ON THE HILL.
 
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This is what I mean. I'm talking about strictly his gun votes.
He's a scumbag socialist.

But he's pro-gun.

And again, think of who his likely successor will be if he loses. Chuck Schumer. THE MOST ANTI-GUN SENATOR ON THE HILL.

AWB =/= Pro-Gun
 
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Ok then I'll take that as you not being able to come up with an anti-gun vote since the AWB vote.

Since you can't seem to click on links and READ, I'll post a list for you:
http://gunowners.org/is-harry-reid-pro-gun-or-anti-gun.htm
Gun owners of America said:
1. June 28, 1991—Voted for a 5 day waiting period for handgun purchases (Vote No. 115).

2. November 19, 1993—Voted to eliminate the five-year sunset in the Brady Bill's five day waiting period, which would have made the waiting period permanent (Vote No. 386).

3. November 19, 1993—Voted to end a filibuster led by pro-gun Senators against the Brady Bill (Vote No. 387).

4. November 20, 1993—Voted for the Brady Bill, which imposed a 5-day waiting period before purchasing a handgun (Vote No. 394).

5. August 25, 1994—Voted to end a filibuster led by pro-gun Senators against the Clinton Crime Bill, which contained the ban on many semi-automatic firearms (the so-called "assualt weapons ban; Vote No. 294).

6. August 25, 1994—Voted for the Clinton Crime Bill, which contained the ban on many semi-automatic firearms (the so-called "assault weapons" ban; Vote No. 295).

7. April 17, 1996—Voted to expand the statute of limitations for paperwork violations in the National Firearms Act from 3 years to 5 years (Vote No. 64).

8. June 27, 1996—Voted to destroy 176,000 M-1 Garand rifles from World War II, and 150 million rounds of .30 caliber ammunition, rather than giving them to the Federal Civilian Marksmanship program (Vote No. 178).

9. September 12, 1996—Voted to spend $21.5 million for a study on putting "taggants" in black and smokeless gunpowder (Vote No. 287).

10. September 12, 1996—Voted to make it a Federal crime to possess a gun within 1,000 feet of any school, private or public, and impose a 5-year prison sentence for violating the law (Vote No. 290).

11. July 28, 1998—Voted against killing an amendment offered by Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-CA) to prohibit the importation of firearm magazines holding over 10 rounds that were manufactured before the 1994 ban was enacted (Vote No. 240).

12. May 12, 1999—Voted to ban the private sales of firearms at gun shows unless buyers submitted to background registration checks. Draconian restrictions would have also been imposed on gun show promoters, expanding federal authority in this area (Vote No. 111).

13. May 13, 1999—Voted to ban the importation of ammunition magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds (Vote No. 116).

14. May 14, 1999—Voted for an amendment introduced by Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) that would regulate the transfer of firearms over the Internet (Vote No. 119).

15. May 18, 1999—Voted for an amendment to force gun sellers to include trigger locks with every handgun sold (Vote No. 122).

16. May 20, 1999—Voted for legislation to subject repair shop and pawn shop transactions to the same registration and background check requirements as purchases from dealers—even if a person was reclaiming his own firearm (Vote No. 133).

17. May 20, 1999—Voted for an amendment offered by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) that would ban private sales at gun shows, unless the buyer first submits to a background registration check. Even displaying a firearm at a gun show, and subsequently transferring that gun to a non-licensee, would result in a two-year prison sentence. The amendment would also have granted BATF open-ended inspection authority to harass vendors at gun shows, and explicitly gives BATF the right to keep a gun owner registration list for up to 90 days. This amendment passed 51-50, with Vice President Al Gore breaking the tie (Vote No. 134).

18. May 20, 1999—Voted for the Clinton Juvenile Justice bill, which contained a host of gun control provisions (Vote No. 140).

19. July 28, 1999—Voted to end a filibuster on the Clinton Juvenile Justice bill. The filibuster was led by Sen. Bib Smith (R-NH) because of concerns with the gun control provisions in the bill (Vote No. 224).

20. February 2, 2000—Voted for an amendment offered by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI) and Charles Schumer (D-NY) to help the cities bring frivolous suits against gun makers (Vote No. 4).

21. March 2, 2000—Voted for an amendment offered by Sens. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) and Charles Schumer (D-NY) blaming school violence on the fact that Congress "failed to pass reasonable, common-sense gun control measures" and call for new gun ownership restrictions on the anniversary of the Columbine shootings (Vote No. 28).

22. March 2, 2000—Voted to use Federal taxpayer funds to hand out anti-gun literature in schools and to run anti-gun public service announcements (Vote No. 32).

23. April 6, 2000—Voted for and cosponsored a "sense of the Senate" amendment urging the passage of new gun control restrictions (Vote No. 64).

24. March 2, 2000—Voted for an amendment offered by Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) urging the passage of the ant-gun juvenile crime bill being opposed by GOA (Vote No. 28).

25. April 10, 2000—Voted for a non-binding amendment offered by Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) urging the House-Senate conferees to get the juvenile anti-gun bill to the floor of each chamber by April 20 (Vote No. 64).

26. May 17, 2000—Voted with 29 other F-rated Senators against an amendment stating "the right of each law-abiding United States citizen to own a firearm for any legitimate purpose, including self-defense or recreation, should not be infringed." (Vote No. 103).

27. May 17, 2000—Voted for a resolution praising the participants of the so-called Million Mom March, and calling on Congress to pass the anti-gun juvenile crime bill that GOA was fighting (Vote No. 104).

28. April 2, 2001—Voted for the Incumbent Protection Act, so-called campaign finance reform (Vote No. 64).

29. March 20, 2002—Voted to end a filibuster of the odious Incumbent Protection bill. The blatantly unconstitutional legislation squelches the voice of groups like Gun Owners of America in the final days before an election. By making it difficult, if not impossible, for groups to criticize the anti-gun actions of legislators prior to an election, incumbents are able to duck accountability for those actions (Vote No. 53).

30. February 26, 2004—Voted for an amendment to require all handgun purchasers to pay an implicit "gun tax" by requiring them to buy a trigger lock when they purchase their handgun, irrespective of need. In addition, the amendment would create a broad cause of action against gun owners who fail to actually use the storage device to lock up their firearms (Vote No. 17).

31. March 2, 2004—Voted to outlaw the private sale of firearms at gun shows unless the buyer agrees to submit to an FBI background registration check. This legislative would have effectively eliminated gun shows because of stringent requirements placed on event sponsors (Vote No. 25).

32. July 28, 2005—Voted for an amendment to require all handgun purchasers to pay an implicit "gun tax" by requiring them to buy a trigger lock when they purchase their handgun, irrespective of need (Vote No. 207).

33. September 29, 2005—Voted against John Roberts for Supreme Court Justice. Roberts' record and testimony to the Senate show that he is strong advocate for Second Amendment rights. Had Reid's position prevailed on this vote, the 5-4 decisions in Heller and McDonald could have gone the other way (Vote No. 245).

34. January 18, 2007—Voted against an amendment to strike language in a bill that would infringe upon the free speech rights of groups like GOA by requiring them to monitor and report on communications with members, and could easily have led to government demands for organizational membership list (a.k.a. registration) (Vote No. 17).

35. January 31, 2006—Voted against Samuel Alito for Supreme Court Justice. Justice Alito's record and testimony to the Senate show that he is strong advocate for Second Amendment rights. Had Reid's position prevailed on this vote, the 5-4 decisions in Heller and McDonald could have gone the other way (Vote No. 2) .

36. February 2, 2009—Voted to confirm Eric Holder as Attorney General. Holder was an anti-Second Amendment official for the Clinton administration, and has called for a renewal of the Clinton gun ban (Vote No. 32).

37. March 19, 2009—Voted to massively expand the amount of land covered by the National Parks gun ban. As Majority Leader, Reid frustrated the efforts of pro-gun Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) for more than a year to repeal the gun ban. Sen. Coburn's position ultimately prevailed after overcoming Reid's opposition later in 2009 (Vote No. 106).

38. June 25, 2009—Voted to confirm Harold Koh as Legal Advisor to the Department of State. GOA warned all Senators that Koh is a radical globalist pushing for worldwide gun control regulation, including the UN Treaty on Small Arms (Vote No. 213).

39. August 6, 2009—Voted to confirm Sonya Sotomayor as Supreme Court Justice. GOA warned all Senators that Judge Sotomayor's record on gun rights was one of hostility to the Second Amendment, which was born out in her dissent in the McDonald decision (Vote No. 262).

40. September 9, 2009—Voted to confirm Cass Sunstein as Administrator of Regulatory Affairs (Regulatory Czar). GOA notified all Senators that Cass Sunstein is a radical leftist who would like to ban hunting and give animals some of the same rights as humans in the courtroom (Vote No. 273).

41. November 19, 2009—Reid voted to confirm the highly controversial Richard Hamilton to the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals. Judge Hamilton has stated that the Founding Fathers intended judges to amend the Constitution through “evolving case law” (Vote No. 350).

42. December 24, 2009—Reid used his position as Majority Leader to pass the ObamaCare legislation. This bill will allow the BATFE and FBI to troll through the ObamaCare database for gun owners who would be disqualified because of their medical information (Vote No. 396).

43. March 25, 2010—Reid voted against an amendment offered by Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) to prevent Veterans from losing their Second Amendment rights without due process of law (Vote No. 94).

So tell me, how again is Reid Pro Gun?
 
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