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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Lip, Feb 16, 2019.

  1. RedLeaf19

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    Let’s run this out hypothetically. 25 NESr’s buy a plot of land together.
    One of them brings a couple of friends (non-owners) to go shooting. One of them acts unsafe and shoots the other. The family decides there is a lawsuit. Can they sue all the landowners?
     
  2. amm5061

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    Don't tell me what I will and won't agree upon! [pot] [laugh]
     
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  3. C. Stockwell

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    IANAL

    The question is how everyone owns the land. If everyone owns the land as joint tenants or tenants in common (every member's name is on the deed), then yeah, all the landowners can probably be sued. If the land is owned by a corporation or a trust, the corporation or trust can be sued as an independent entity owned by the members. Put another way, the company can be sued and targeted, but the individual members cannot.

    Of course, this is assuming the members were too ignorant to enact a series of waivers, controls, and protections against either a shooting or a law suit. You can't stop a suicide 100% of the time at a range, but most stupidity can be prevented. A clear set of waivers and assumption of risk documents would be helpful against potential litigation.
     
  4. Lip

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    Lighten up Francis. My idea was like 100-200 acres, we could buy the adjacent land as we go
     
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  5. C. Stockwell

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    I don't think either idea, a piece of land or a town, would work. As others have said, once you get down to the money discussion and the rules-making, people will bail. Simple fact of life in any situation. Unless there were to be some extenuating circumstance like Nick Matiello (RI House Speaker) dies and all 30 gun control bills become law this year in RI, thus making thousands of RI'ers felons.

    The safest idea and most probable would be having 1-12 NES'ers join together to open a rental range and gun store. Run it as a corporate-owned gun store and rental range. NES life members have access for free or a very reduced cost. Veterans, retirees, and students also get a reduced rate. Regular, paid NES members get the next smallest discount. Plain NES members get a slight discount. Public pays full price.

    You can do a gun store, but as other threads since before 2010 have shown, no one is actually going to step forward to buy land (or a town) barring any extreme circumstances.
     
  6. BigTimber

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    I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.
     
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  7. Editor

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    Like Leith, North Dakota?
     
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  8. C. Stockwell

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  9. looser38

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    You may be right, and I agree with you but what the hell, just have to write it up somehow so no one can f it up. I not sure if this is possible.....
     
  10. DecOFlaherty

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    This still like it would quickly deteriorate into a cult, and them some anti-government anarchy that ends with Federal agents throwing grenades.

    I'm in for a grand.
     
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  11. looser38

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    I could walk there too, in 2-3 days.
    I think I'll drive.
     
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  12. Boris

    Boris Son of Kalashnikov NES Member

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    can we make it a sanctuary town?

    Put it in bylaws that US constitution is the supreme law of the land, if you don't understand what "shall not infringed means" is then you can not join. No rulings by 90yo SCJ are needed to figure out what the Constitution means. LEOs on duty are not allowed. We don't talk about what goes on there.
     
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  13. Lip

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    Our cult would have grenades too. Sheesh we just want land to shoot
     
  14. Boris

    Boris Son of Kalashnikov NES Member

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    the only way to prevent it is to make it a cult first with well defined rules, incorporate as "church" of freedom and other cool shit.
     
  15. Boris

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    lol ... grenades ... he he he
     
  16. Boris

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    the funny part, once feds get a wiff of this, they would spend millions upon millions of dollars to monitor this "hate group"
     
  17. 42!

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    Buy unincorporated land, Kentucky is good for this, incorporate your own town with a charter that is very specific and difficult to change.
     
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  19. greencobra

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    and 2/3rds of them died by the 2nd year.
     
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  20. greencobra

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    the way some guys post about tossing around money, like the guy who spends 20k/year for kiddie dance lessons, then this is very doable for 5 like minded people to throw in 5k ea to buy that property for 25,000. just do it!
     
  21. enbloc

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    Cowgirlup Shall be Our Queen! What Say ye? Aye!
     
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  22. C. Stockwell

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    History glosses over that part ;) Once things got more organized, investors bought land from natives and sold to prospective settlers. For instance, investors bought Jamestown, RI in 1657 and divided it up into 12 plots with common areas reserved for grazing. Not much starvation because the investors came from already established colonies on Aquidneck Island.

    Jamestown and Newport RI History

    An endeavor like this wouldn't lead to starvation but most assuredly could lead to bankruptcy.
     
  23. enbloc

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    For a $1000 bucks in Nirvana (not the band), I'll live in a foxhole...

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    I ain't cheap, but I am thrifty...
    ~Enbloc
     
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  24. FPrice

    FPrice Retired Zoomie NES Life Member NES Member

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    Would that make Mini-ninjer our High Sheriff?
     
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  25. BigTimber

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    Lord of the flies Part Deux in the making. I nominate bonesinium for our 1st police chief.
     
  26. BigTimber

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    She’s clearly mayor.
     
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  27. enbloc

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    Close: Sergeant at Arms...

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  28. greencobra

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    hmmm, mr. enbloc...sounds like you crowned yourself king. [pot]

    p.s. just teasing [laugh]
     
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  29. greencobra

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    2nd in line for the throne i'd suspect.
     
  30. VTski4x4

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    There's multiple 100+ acre plots in Maine for sale for 50-70k, and can be found cheaper with the right connection. My property taxes on my 100 acres is $368 for this year. No building codes, no zoning laws in my town. Ruby red as far as politics go, and I'm 10mins from civilization.
     

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