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I bought a trailer. Now what do I do?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Nhusa, Sep 6, 2018.

  1. Nhusa

    Nhusa

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    I just got a 16 ft 2 axel tandem trailer with a beaver tail, heavy duty pintle hitch, and spare tire to haul my Model T and A to cars shows etc. (not at the same time)
    I am hoping that my Chevy Z71 off road is up the challenge.
    It should be fun!

    Next steps are to get it home (I have the pintle adaptor for the truck), and get tie down straps.
     

  2. KOMA829

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    does it have brakes.? may require the proper plug to then control those.?

    not sure on NH, but in MA i would just Borrow someone else utility plate to at least get it home, then register it.
     
  3. RHJJ

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    Before hauling anything, check the brakes, wiring and pack the bearings. Also the bolts on the hitch and trailer.
     
  4. Nhusa

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    All good info.

    The trailer has brakes on both axles and the truck has a trailer brake controller.
    I checked the bolts. They are all tight on the trailer and the hitch assembly on the truck is new..

    I have the plate from our little trailer for the trip home and plan on not connecting the lights or brakes until I can check them out.
    I would not want an electrical problem or brake lockup on the way home.
     
  5. Zappa

    Zappa Road Warrior NES Member

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    What's the GVW of the trailer ???
    If together with the truck it exceeds the CGVW of the Z71 than you may have a problem, this may be an illegal combination, and it doesn't matter if the trailer is loaded or not, they go by the manufacturers rated weight.
    Typically a pintle hook type trailer has a GVW that exceeds what's legal for a 1/2 ton truck.
    I've seen the Truck Team/DOT guys stop an F-150 than was towing a Bobcat on a two axle pintle hook trailer and wrote him up for exceeding the CGVW of the F-150. No, they didn't let him drive it away, they made him unhook the trailer and called to have the trailer towed away by a medium duty wrecker.
    What may be legal to tow with an F-350/3500 (1 ton) isn't necessarily legal to tow with anything smaller.
     
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    Your Z71 will be fine. If you have never towed before, slow and easy wins the race. Practice Practice Practice when it comes to taking turns, and backing it in to a spot.

    And what Zappa said....
     
  7. Nhusa

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    I was told that the trailer has a GVW of 10,000 pounds.

    Thanks for the warning about driving with a trailer.

    I pulled a 19 ft boat around Ky, RI, and NH with a Chevy S-10 and a NASCAR modified to Norwood in the early 60's with a 1949 Ford.
    The ford and modified was a real challenge because there was no way to slow the rig down when we went down the hill before the track on rt 1
    We had to go by it, then turn around and approach it from the east.
    I know we could have killed ourselves but we were young and having a ball.
     
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  8. HorizontalHunter

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    This.

    You need to scale it and see what it weighs. You may need a weight distribution hitch. You also may be exceeding the maximum tongue weight of the factory trailer hitch. There is a sticker on the factory hitch.

    With 1/2ton pickup trucks you will run out of payload capacity before you hit the towing capacity. My towing limit is 9600lbs but my trailer is just over 7,000lbs. I am just under my GVWR for my truck.

    Bob
     
  9. PaulR

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    I recall having to "set" my Tekonsha Prodigy controller to my trailer. Something about going right up to where they lock up and back off a skosh. Dunno, might want to read the instructions.

    Criss cross your chains. Heavier weight on the tongue / weight forward so the tail does not wag the dog.

    That's about all I got.
     
  10. xjma99

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    You’re gonna need a bigger truck.
     
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    Weigh light and heavy, know your gvwr and do the math. You might be surprised in either direction at your legal capacity.

    A heavy 4 door crew cab will have less legal capacity than a stripped down 2 door with the same suspension.
     
  12. DPR

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    I'd consider switching to a ball hitch. Pintle hitches are great but bang around a bit, not fun on bumpy roads...or bumps. If you haven't towed them before you'll see soon enough. Good luck with the new toy!
     
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    Check the sticker on your door for towing capacities. It will vary depending on regular cab, crew cab, etc. Also the trim level makes a difference too. What you CAN tow and what is legal and/or safe are usually not even close.
     
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    What does the trailer itself weigh? Model A and Model T are light.
     
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    Hopefully your Z71 doesn't have those shitty GM AFM lifters in it, otherwise you'll end up BEING the towed truck instead of doing the towing
     
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    Emergency breakaway switch
     
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    Spanz NES Member

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    if you are new at this, just be careful how you distribute the weight:



    How you put the car onto the trailer can make a big difference on how much tongue weight there is. You want enough tongue weight for stability, but not so much as to overload the towing vehicle's limit. Shifting a car back, even a foot or two, can be a problem, as well as backing a car onto the trailer (which puts the engine weight to the rear)
     
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  18. Lennypeters

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    You don't mention the year of your Z71. I am pretty sure all Z71's are 1/2 ton and some years are not noted for having robust transmissions.
     
  19. BlackwaterFence

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    10,000 is a heavy trailer to tow.
    I used to tow a 5,000 boat trailer with a 1/2 ton.
    It was ok for short trips to the boat ramp, but even with surge brakes, it was hard to stop.
    I tow 10,000 trailer with a 3/4 or 1 ton and it's a world of difference.
    F250 and F350 have transmission cooler, and brake controller (My GM 2500 did also)
     
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  20. 71montess

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    Register it in Maine for a lot less than in Ma. I did mine that way. For like $25.00 for 3 years.
     
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  21. Nhusa

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    Truck says I can tow 7800 GVW. The heaviest vehicle weighs 2500# and there is nothing on the trailer giving the GVW. four small.jpg
    I checked the VIN and it doesn't list the GVW, just says that it is a 2 axel 16 foot trailer.
    I'll attempt to register it in NH as a 7,000 # GVW trailer and hope it weighs less than 5000# - which is very possible.
    I'll loose the attached ramps --
     
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    Yeah, but you really shouldn't be towing with a Mustang either.
     
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    Find a public scale and get weighed, fully loaded. I mean with your car, not beer.

    And weigh again, just your truck.

    Then subtract.
     
  24. zboys

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    That trailer would be about 2500 lb no more than 3,000
     
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    I bought a trailer. Now what do I do?

    Hide it and keep your mouth shut tight. Once friends/relatives/neighbors/total strangers know you've got one, you shoot up to the top of the list for:

    "Can you help me move?"
    "Can I borrow your truck and trailer?"
    "Is that thing big enough to move an entire bedroom set?"
    "Can you tow my beat-to-shit '79 corvette to Carlisle so I can part it out?"

    And my personal favorite: "Can you help me move?"... again
     
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    If the cars are too heavy just replace the air in the tires with helium.

    Nope, I have NOTHING else useful to contribute.
     
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    Sorry to hijack , I could've sworn a guy here on nes was doing towing. I am looking for a 1ater tank that is 96 in diameter and 90 inches high it's in NY if the person sees this PM if he can do under 800 bucks
     
  28. namedpipes

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    Doesn't interstate require another level of CDL?

    There are at least a couple of shipping/bidding sites or there, whose names escape me. There was even a "semireality" TV show connected with one a while back.
     
  29. Nhusa

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    Update,

    I agree that the pintle hitch has to go so I am changing it to a 2 5/16 ball.

    Will be selling a combination pintle / 2 inch ball hitch and 2x2 adjustible receiver that I used to get the trailer home.

    Also got two new tires because one had a plug that looked poor and the spare was a bit too much worn.
    The other three tires look great.
    This will give me 2 new and 2 good tires, and a good spare.

    Checked and greased the bearings.
    The next steps are to mount two tires and check out the wireing.
    The truck has a brake controller so I’ll have to figure that part out with the lights.
    There is a place for a small battery on the trailer and what looks like it could be a break away controller.

    I’ll get all this done just in time to store the trailer for the winter.
     
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    How many lug nuts do you have on each wheel? If you have 5, then it is probably 7,000 GVW. If you have 6, then it is probably a 10,000 GVW trailer.
    Also look on the side wall of the tire, it will have the load rating.
     

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