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How quickly will secession talks start?

Might as well get a pool going for which state is going to talk about leaving first
100% sure nobody's seceding anywhere.

Sections of califory started to pursue that in 2016 right?
Was Virginia looking into seceding or being absorbed by w.v.?

I wish it would happen, but like Drix said above, its been all talk and no action.
 
Saint Louis and adjacent burgs are corrupt, liberal sh!tholes. Drive 40 minutes away from the Arch and you get something different, excepting parts of KC and Jeff City. Also their state attorney general is on their side. Contrast that to Heil Healey.

Also, MO is not completely dominated by Saint Louis politics like Mass is by Boston politics.

So yeah, about that...
Trouble is, we're supposed to have "a government of laws, not men" so it shouldn't matter who the AG is.
 
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The GOP has kept the Senate. And the Supreme Court. It is my personal view that any moves by Joe Blow to ram through gun control will be squashed out by these two checks in the balance.
The Senate is not a sure thing. Both Georgia races could go to runoff. One already is in runoff and Perdue is in jeopardy of going below 50% which I believe would trigger a runoff. Dems/Silicon Valley/Hollywood/Bloomberg etc will poor hundreds of million dollars to win both. N.C. And Alaska should be ok to get to 50. But, it could turn into a real fight for the tap Georgia seats.
 
The Senate is not a sure thing. Both Georgia races could go to runoff. One already is in runoff and Perdue is in jeopardy of going below 50% which I believe would trigger a runoff. Dems/Silicon Valley/Hollywood/Bloomberg etc will poor hundreds of million dollars to win both. N.C. And Alaska should be ok to get to 50. But, it could turn into a real fight for the tap Georgia seats.
Perdue is just above 50%.
 
I’ve already started the process.

fenced in my backyard last spring and I’ll be doing the rest before the split. If anyone needs a place to stay, bring your own ammo and a cot to Indiana and you can sleep in the basement (it’s a nice basement though).
Yeah if I
Sections of califory started to pursue that in 2016 right?
Was Virginia looking into seceding or being absorbed by w.v.?

I wish it would happen, but like Drix said above, its been all talk and no action.
I agree and even if trump pulls it out i bet cali Oregon and Washington will talk about it... to which I say let them go
 
Seriously......is Nevada holding us hostage over these results? Other states have counted 10’s of millions of votes in less than a day after the election. Why do they just not confirm who won that state and get this over with.
 
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The GOP has kept the Senate. And the Supreme Court. It is my personal view that any moves by Joe Blow to ram through gun control will be squashed out by these two checks in the balance.
They cannot pass sweeping anti-gun reform because the GOP has the Senate and Supreme Court.

So its looking like the GOP will have 51 in the senate... If Biden wins, wouldn't it only take 1 Repub to flake on guns or anything else? That would make it a 50/50 split which the VP is the tie breaker? It then passes and is signed into law.....
 
If it comes to Patriotism, the one person I’m not rallying around is Donald Trump. The guy wouldn’t know Patriotism if he tripped over it. All politicians are self obsessed narcissistists, but I’ve never seen one more self obsessed than this joke...
 
I’ve already started the process.

fenced in my backyard last spring and I’ll be doing the rest before the split. If anyone needs a place to stay, bring your own ammo and a cot to Indiana and you can sleep in the basement (it’s a nice basement though).
 

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Seriously......is Nevada holding us hostage over these result? Other states have counted 10’s of millions of votes in less than a day after the election. Why do they just not confirm who won that state and get this over with.
This has to be tv driven... there's literally no other explanation. Think how many effing black jack dealers there are in that state we know they can count.
 
The problem is that the Democrats will vote for a Democrat no matter how shitty the candidate is. The Republicans will vote for a republican no matter how bad the candidate is. The Independents can go either way. Let's be honest. Trump is a very flawed candidate. He is very divisive and just rub's people the wrong way, my self included. I voted for him because I believe he has the best interests of the country at heart, unlike the other party. I would, however, have preferred a better candidate, as I suspect the Independents/ Libertarians would too.

I just wish to god that the Republicans could come up with a better candidate to bring more people back to the party. There are NOT enough true Republicans in numbers to get a candidate elected. You need to give the Independents/ Libertarians a reason to vote Republican.

Sorry for the rant.

Flame away....
 
Might as well get a pool going for which state is going to talk about leaving first

In another discussion I suggested splitting up the US into four new countries, but with some sort of EU style agreements where we could travel and mingle as we like, but still have separate governments...

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The Confederate States of America
The Texan Federation
The Pacific States of Amerika
The People's Republic of New England

That's just a quick and dirty sketch. The actual map and names could be quite different, with the lines between them delimiting regional philosophy.
 
In another discussion I suggested splitting up the US into four new countries, but with some sort of EU style agreements where we could travel and mingle as we like, but still have separate governments...

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The Confederate States of America
The Texan Federation
The Pacific States of Amerika
The People's Republic of New England

That's just a quick and dirty sketch. The actual map and names could be quite different, with the lines between them delimiting regional philosophy.
Wouldn't work Texas needs Florida otherwise the gulf is blocked
 
Wouldn't work Texas needs Florida otherwise the gulf is blocked

If the countries were antagonistic toward each other, maybe. But Florida does not own, defend or blockade the Gulf any more than Mexico or Cuba does.

That said, the lines I drew had virtually no thought given to them, except picking Red for the Northeast and Pink for Kalifornia and company
 
You mean like the 4 year hissy fit the left has had? Can someone cook up a fake dossier on Biden?
Already been done

Those were the 'documents' Tucker Carlson thought twice about broadcasting, as they turned out to have come from a sketchy source.
 
We all live IN the undesirable region. Preventing mingling prevents US from buying a winter house in Florida or a hunting camp in Tennessee.

(Yes, there are a few NES'ers living in friendly territory but most of us are in the New England states)
 
Who cares if they come from a sketchy source? Do you think the DNC cared about the credibility of the Steele dossier? NO they didn't. Just get anything and keep parroting it until Biden and his family have been thoroghly embarressed. Make the next four years of his life in office hell. They did it to Trump. Why can't we do it. If it's all about public perception then house Republicans should immediately begin calling for impeachment over anything.
Probably make sure they lose first then be ass hats but I see your point
 
Who cares if they come from a sketchy source? Do you think the DNC cared about the credibility of the Steele dossier? NO they didn't. Just get anything and keep parroting it until Biden and his family have been thoroghly embarressed. Make the next four years of his life in office hell. They did it to Trump. Why can't we do it. If it's all about public perception then house Republicans should immediately begin calling for impeachment over anything.
If Trump overtakes in Nevada and Arizona, while holding the other 3 contested states, he wins. Georgia is trending slow, I don’t think at the current rate Biden will take North Carolina, but Pennsylvania is the big question mark at the moment. A lot of votes coming in from Philly; the county containing Pittsburgh won’t count until tomorrow, so we won’t know for sure until tomorrow.
 
Why do we need to secede????? We believe in the constitution and the bill of rights. 2A, freedom of speech, etc... let THEM secede and form their own socialists USSA.

Ya, but they're not doing it within any of the current U.S. land or territories, they can find someplace else or die. They can get right the fvck out of my country or learn to live within its constitutional laws.
 
We all live IN the undesirable region. Preventing mingling prevents US from buying a winter house in Florida or a hunting camp in Tennessee.

(Yes, there are a few NES'ers living in friendly territory but most of us are in the New England states)
Foreigners should not be allowed to own property. America is one of the few countries that allow it, which is a huge mistake. So no. Maybe you can get a visa and rent a place on vacation.
 
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