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How much of an A$$hole is this guy (Heller article)

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From the Huffington Post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-horwitz/the-matter-of-nonfuncti_b_92993.html

Gun Safety No Laughing Matter

The dust is only beginning to settle in the wake of oral arguments heard before the U.S. Supreme Court on March 18 in the historic case of Heller v. District of Columbia. The day featured several lively exchanges, as both the justices and the attorneys for the two sides in the case sought to divine the historical context and present-day implications of the Second Amendment.

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At issue in the Heller case are the District's tough gun laws, which effectively ban handguns and require those who own long guns (i.e., shotguns and rifles) to keep them unloaded and either trigger-locked or disassembled in the home. The lead Plaintiff in the case, D.C. resident Dick Anthony Heller, has argued that these restrictions preclude his right to self-defense in the home and violate individual rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment. In the view of Heller and his attorneys, a firearm that must be kept unloaded and trigger locked is "non-functional" and of no use in a home invasion scenario.


Surprisingly, during Tuesday's oral arguments, several of the justices seemed to not only openly side with Heller's argument, but to stake out a stance on the storage of firearms in the home more laissez-faire than that advocated by the standard bearer for the gun lobby, the National Rifle Association (NRA).


One fascinating exchange occurred between Walter E. Dellinger III, the attorney arguing the case for the District, Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Antonin Scalia. Dellinger clarified that long guns in District can be kept either disassembled or trigger locked when stored in the home, and noted that releasing a trigger lock is a simple procedure. Justice Roberts pressed -- exactly how long does it take to disable such a lock? Dellinger, who had tested a lock on a gun he owned, answered "three seconds."


That apparently didn't satisfy Justice Scalia, who had envisioned a hypothetical home invasion scenario of "somebody crawling in your bedroom window." Addressing Dellinger, Justice Scalia sarcastically stated, "You turn on the lamp next to your bed so you can -- you can turn the knob at 3-22-95." Chief Justice Roberts followed with his own quip, which elicited laughter from the crowd: "you turn on the lamp, you pick up your reading glasses..." The two justices seemed to be implying that trigger locks eliminate the possibility of a firearm being used for self-defense. More disturbingly, they seemed to suggest that keeping firearms loaded and unsecured in the home was the most prudent storage practice. Also embracing this view was Justice Samuel Alito, who stated that D.C.'s firearm storage provisions could not survive "under any standard of review."


A quick look at the NRA's Gun Safety Rules webpage reveals just how far out of the mainstream these justices are. One of the NRA's "fundamental" rules for safe gun handling is "ALWAYS keep the gun unloaded until ready to use." The NRA also tells gun owners to always "store guns so they are not accessible to unauthorized persons," noting that "dozens of gun storage devices, as well as locking devices that attach directly to the gun, are available." In a "Parents Guide to Gun Safety," the NRA also points out the potential dangers to children, stating "a parent must, in every case, assess the exposure of the firearm and absolutely ensure that it is inaccessible to a child."


Dellinger is undoubtedly aware of these dangers. His two grandchildren likely spend more time in his home than armed criminals. It is mystifying that Chief Justice Roberts, who has two young children, is not equally aware of why kids and guns are a bad mix.


The fact is that guns in the home are a far greater threat to one's family and intimates than to any imagined criminals. Living in a home where there are guns increases the risk of homicide by 40 to 170% and the risk of suicide by 90 to 460%. With its handgun ban and proactive safety and storage laws, the District of Columbia, in comparison with the 50 states, enjoys the 17th lowest accidental gun death rate and the second lowest suicide rate. Meanwhile, according to the FBI, firearms were used by private citizens in only 147 justifiable homicides in the U.S. in 2005. The total number of gun homicides that year? 12,352.


D.C.'s gun laws could live or die depending on what the Supreme Court defines as a "reasonable restriction." Given the firearm safety recommendations of the gun lobby, and the level of evidence pointing to the risks of having unsecured firearms in the home, it is disingenuous to argue that the city's trigger lock provision is unreasonable.


I would point to the words of Justice Stephen Breyer, who stated during the oral arguments that "we give...leeway to the city and States to work out what's reasonable in light of their problems." Or as he later summarized concerning the controversy over trigger locks: "Do you want thousands of judges all over the United States to be deciding that kind of question rather than the city councils and the legislatures that have decided it in the context of passing laws?"


That question can be answered faster than the few seconds it takes to remove a trigger lock.
 
... I didn't realize the NRA was so dead-set against use of firearms for self-defense.[wink]

Fortunately, the only people who read this tripe are those that think that unloaded, trigger-locked guns in locked safes are dangerous and must be siezed/banned.

In their blogs The Brady Campaign is declaring victory for any outcome short of widespread availability of cheap machineguns on a shall-issue basis (which may yet happen, but it's a very slim chance). They've got to do so to continue to raise funds.

When the right to keep and bear arms is declared an individual right, they will claim success and say it's easier to convince an individual not to own a gun than it is to convince a militia not to keep and bear arms - so they are ahead of the game.

They will not lose gracefully - what can they say? Something like: "They will have to force a gun into my cold, dead hands!"
 
Josh Horwitz said:
One of the NRA's "fundamental" rules for safe gun handling is "ALWAYS keep the gun unloaded until ready to use."

Clearly this guy is confusing the words "use" and "shoot".

Josh Horwitz said:
the NRA also points out the potential dangers to children, stating "a parent must, in every case, assess the exposure of the firearm and absolutely ensure that it is inaccessible to a child."

What's that? The parent must ensure the safety of their child? And here I thought that was the city's job!
 
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What a clown. Obviously this writer know`s nothing about firearms but feels obligated to state his opinion. Typical liberal.
 
Trigger locks suck when you need the gun for self defense, but they suck even worse for keeping the gun away from 'unauthorized persons'. You can open one with a screwdriver, or just walk off with the gun and take the lock off later.

As for the NRA: Guns kept for personal protection are always 'in use' and therefore can be kept loaded. But should still be secured from unauthorized access. I like the DAC-sportsafe for this.

As an aside on the sportsafe: your non-gun friends will have no idea about it, even when its in plane sight in the living room.

AE
 
I mean he doesn't even state the name of the case correctly. It is District of Columbia vs Dick Anthony Heller not Heller vs District of Columbia. Does he not know the difference there? What a moron.
 
Obviously he is unaware that "unloaded until ready to use" also implies that a gun used for S.D. is always in use, so is always loaded.

He's also, obviously unaware that the majority of homicides are by scum-bags who obtain their firearms by illegal means. And he also thinks that guns emit a negative carma energy field that drives an individual to suicide.

In short - he's a douche.
 
During the argument, when he said he could have a trigger lock off and the firearm ready to use in 3 seconds, the one thing running through my mind was that I have never seen a trigger lock that didn't come with a big warning to make sure the firearm was unloaded. So it really should be turn on the light, find your glasses, unlock the combination, find your magazine/speed loader/loose rounds, load the gun.
 
By his definition of "use", police should be required to go about in Barny Fife mode. (ie. cartridges in a pocket.)

A gun is "In Use" when it is doing a job.

It is up to the user to maintain control of the gun at all times.

These statements are not mutually exclusive. Secure storage IS a means of maintaining control. So is a holster.
 
Josh Horowitz and the Huffington Post... go figure...

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I'm actually loving it.

The sheeple and the moonbats are freaking out about how Roberts and Scalia are acting on a common sense issue. Roberts and Scalia aren't pandering to the whims of the liberals, moonbats and socialists, and they hate it.
 
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The fact is that guns in the home are a far greater threat to one's family and intimates than to any imagined criminals.
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What about swimming pools? 100 times more likely a young kid drowns in a swimming pool than is killed by a gun in the house. What a clown.
 
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The fact is that guns in the home are a far greater threat to one's family and intimates than to any imagined criminals.
The problem with this stat is that they count suicide. 86% of the deaths included in this study were suicides. Apparently they think that if the gun wasn't there the person would have never considered suicide. Also the person behind the study, Arthur Kellermann, admitted that they intentionally avoided cases where intruders were wounded or frightened away by an armed homeowner. A clear cut case of a study with predetermined results.
 
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