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I am going more with you built this 6 months ago, you "register" it, still no serial number on it.Could have assembled and still be within the 7 day window...
Could have assembled and still be within the 7 day window...
Don't carry a p80 for self defense and don't keep one by the night stand. Legal thing... you'd be demonized so fast as a gun crazed anti gov psychopath if you ever had to use it in self defense.I am going more with you built this 6 months ago, you "register" it, still no serial number on it.
In some legal portion of your day a LEO gets control of this and checks for a SN. (because Mass)
These officers are far from lawyers.
No, it doesn't. In addition to home-built firearms, it was common for older firearms to not have serial numbers. They weren't even required until the Gun Control Act of1968.[...]which requires some form of SN. So no SN would mean that it was never eFAed?
"Says" where? Can you give a citation, please? There are all sorts of fields in the form that aren't required by law.Says there has to be a serial number but there's no requirement that it be specific or even unique. I bet there are a pile of handguns out there that the state expects to have "NA" carved into the frame...
I should have framed it as a question, IANAL. Deleted so as not to muddy watersNo, it doesn't. In addition to home-built firearms, it was common for older firearms to not have serial numbers. They weren't even required until the Gun Control Act of1968.
As noted, people who register via eFA-10 often put "NSN" (for No Serial Number) in that space.
"Says" where? Can you give a citation, please? There are all sorts of fields in the form that aren't required by law.
To the OP's question, I have only heard of people in unlawful possession finding themselves in trouble for a P80, but that doesn't mean that legal gun owners haven't been jammed up too.
a brand new Gen5 glock can be bought here in MA, 100% legally, for a $299 frame and $399 slide price. a $700 total.EX. p80 "Glock".
Has this been tested yet? In MA?
Ignoring the usual if they are checking for a SN if you more to worry about.
So there's two forms at the state without serial numbers. So what? If you have two of them and you've also filed twice, who cares which is which?I see that people EFA-10 them NA on the application when they buy the non-serial variant. Now if you have two of them EFA-10 who knows what is what?
Some people like to machine and build things. I made my AR lowers from 0% just for fun and custom mods.a brand new Gen5 glock can be bought here in MA, 100% legally, for a $299 frame and $399 slide price. a $700 total.
why would anyone in a sane state of mind want to mess with a P80 build - is beyond me.
especially when a case of ammo for it costs more than a gun itself.
It's a pleasant mechanical build and you can select individual components that suit your fancy as you build it. When I finish the G17C build, it will have a slide precut for a Trijicon and be less than $600 (excluding the RDS and suppressor height sights).a brand new Gen5 glock can be bought here in MA, 100% legally, for a $299 frame and $399 slide price. a $700 total.
why would anyone in a sane state of mind want to mess with a P80 build - is beyond me.
to each his own. i saw it and i do not like p80 plastic and do not think it is worth any effort. and, price wise, it is not that much cheaper at all, now.It's a pleasant mechanical build and you can select individual components that suit your fancy as you build it.
Stashing away for later use. The best way to get me to buy something is to have some politician say that they should be banned.to each his own. i saw it and i do not like p80 plastic and do not think it is worth any effort. and, price wise, it is not that much cheaper at all, now.
as you say - less than $600, so, the whole effort is to get a gen3 sub-optimal non-factory clone, to save whole, say, a $100-$200 over a brand new gen5 factory gun?
what for?
Same reason you buy a burner phone.to each his own. i saw it and i do not like p80 plastic and do not think it is worth any effort. and, price wise, it is not that much cheaper at all, now.
as you say - less than $600, so, the whole effort is to get a gen3 sub-optimal non-factory clone, to save whole, say, a $100-$200 over a brand new gen5 factory gun?
what for?
Same reason you buy a burner phone.
Well, sub-optimal certainly sounds like a sour grapes assertion. My G19 clone is a nice shooting gun that runs reliably. Not sure why I would consider it "sub-optimal". Plus, last time I looked, $100 to $200 off was 15% to 30% less than list. That's past my definition of "not that much",to each his own. i saw it and i do not like p80 plastic and do not think it is worth any effort. and, price wise, it is not that much cheaper at all, now.
as you say - less than $600, so, the whole effort is to get a gen3 sub-optimal non-factory clone, to save whole, say, a $100-$200 over a brand new gen5 factory gun?
what for?
EX. p80 "Glock".
Has this been tested yet? In MA?
Ignoring the usual if they are checking for a SN if you more to worry about.
Right? It's damn near pavlovian.The best way to get me to buy something is to have some politician say that they should be banned.
a typical p80 kit with a non-glock slide, non-glock barrel is a sub-optimal gun.Well, sub-optimal certainly sounds like a sour grapes assertion.
Based on what? The random musings of a stranger on the internet?a typical p80 kit with a non-glock slide, non-glock barrel is a sub-optimal gun.
Well, sub-optimal certainly sounds like a sour grapes assertion. My G19 clone is a nice shooting gun that runs reliably. Not sure why I would consider it "sub-optimal". Plus, last time I looked, $100 to $200 off was 15% to 30% less than list. That's past my definition of "not that much",
I'm not afraid of doing something that is legal.....with something that is also legal.Don't carry a p80 for self defense and don't keep one by the night stand. Legal thing... you'd be demonized so fast as a gun crazed anti gov psychopath if you ever had to use it in self defense.
You rich? Figure the same as home rolled ammo... sure its legal and yeah you probably win but it'll drag out longer and why would you subject yourself to that if you have a perfectly good factory gun aroundI'm not afraid of doing something that is legal.....with something that is also legal.
Don't carry a p80 for self defense and don't keep one by the night stand. Legal thing... you'd be demonized so fast as a gun crazed anti gov psychopath if you ever had to use it in self defense.
The test would be has any unlucky soul had an encounter with a modern NSN firearm that was "registered" and what was the result lolWhat is there to test? I don't understand the OP's question.
P80 or a P226 will cost you the same amount in lawyers.You rich? Figure the same as home rolled ammo... sure its legal and yeah you probably win but it'll drag out longer and why would you subject yourself to that if you have a perfectly good factory gun around
Go test it out lol and let me know which one costs you moreP80 or a P226 will cost you the same amount in lawyers.