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H7541: RI will honor MA/CT permits (if it passes)

Discussion in 'Rhode Island Laws' started by newportri, Feb 20, 2016.

  1. newportri

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    Does MA and CT have a Live Fire requirement? When I took the NRA Basic Pistol I did live fire, but I don't know if this is a requirement..
    http://webserver.rilin.state.ri.us/BillText/BillText16/HouseText16/H7541.pdf
     
  2. von buck

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    I had to do live fire for my Ct. and MA. permits. I assume it's required
     
  3. bostonasphalt2

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    In MA live fire it's t required as there are classes that don't have it that are approved for the LTC. The exception is a couple places like Boston that make you do a shooting test. RI requires qualifying to carry.
     
  4. AMV

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    The way I read that.....it names Mass An CT specifically are allowed and then other states are allowed only if it has live fire, dose not say Mass or Ct needs live fire. Am I interpreting that wrong??
     
  5. RImike

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    Not really, however those opposing the bill will read it as since MA and Ct don't require live fire, it isn't equal to the RI requirements and will oppose it.
     
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    Sadly, anything positive or that makes real sense, will fail. I hope it does pass.
     
  7. CobaltBlueSteel

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    Would be nice. I live right on the border. I have to leave my CCW at home before visiting my mechanic in Woonsocket and I have to avoid trails that could put me in RI while mountain biking. Pain in the ass.
     
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    MA does not require live fire at the state level to obtain a permit.
     
  9. newportri

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    Why not get a permit from Woonsocket if you visit there often?
    http://www.rifol.org/ccwinfo.php
     
  10. uncle griz

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    sure hope it passes
     
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    I don't. It would be nice for convenience, but not necessary. I already have a non-resident NH LTC. How fat does my wallet need to be with permission slips for my right to self-preservation?
     
  12. newportri

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    I hope this passes.

    Realistically, what's the likelihood of that?
     
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    Hasn't a similar bill been attempted before a few years ago?
     
  15. jake

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    Ct requires range testing, if instructor feels you can't safely handle firearm, they can and usually will fail you...
    Reading statute it states "AND" any other state requiring live fire...

    Would rather have national recognition, like drivers
     
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    Would love this. Maybe I'll hold off trying to get my ri license for a little bit... just in case

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  17. AMV

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    Ok.... MA dose not require live fire, but this statute state the permit would be recognized, so if this passed as written a MA LTC would be all you would need to carry in RI. yet you may never have had a formal live fire test would you agree or am I missing something?
     
  18. jarcher

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    Yes, and it even passed the House. That bill said that RI would honor MA permits *if* MA changed their law to honor RI permits. I don't see that ever happening.

    My understanding is that there is opposition to this and another reciprocity bill. The opposition is from Steve Hogan of RI Rifle and Revolver (I always get the name of this group wrong, but I'm close). I believe the stated reason is that there is nothing in it that would benefit RI gun owners.

    Personally, I support the bill. People can debate what, if any, direct benefit there is to RI gun owners. It does, however, benefit the 2A community at large by advancing gun rights overall. Further, I find the stated reasoning a bit petty. "What do *I* get out of this??!!" is not a rationale for opposing an advancement to our rights.
     
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    The LTC class I took was a live fire class, I got the usual certificate as well as the NRA basic pistol cert. The instructor also kept the targets as proof. I wonder if that would qualify?
     
  20. robjax

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    I've had ten years of live fire tests in the Army. I'm sure that won't count....lol
     
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    If true, this Hogan guy is a real class act. Nothing like a downer to give a great bill some resistance. Well, RI, if you want to find who not to donate and who to see as an opponent, then turn your eyes to Steve Hogan.

    I doubt anyone would give a rats ass in opposition if MA had the same reciprocity with RI and CT.
     
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    Of course not, they would deem you mentally unsuitable in typical gov. Fashion
     
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    Sure would be awesome if this passed. My wife likes going to RI and I feel as if I desperately need to be armed throughout the entire state....lolol.
     
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    Is there a way of tracking this bill's progress?
     
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  26. jarcher

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    In Rhode Island, once can track the progress of a bill, but too often, everything happens in the last few days of the session, at about 1:00AM, when the rules are "suspended" and the wheeling and dealing is fast and furious...
     
  27. Jared

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    You mean you don't miss the "all nighters"?

    Nothing beat hanging out on Smith Hill at 4AM, right?
     
  28. jarcher

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    Especially since the Capital Police had given up on their posts so I just kept my pistol in its holster.
     

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