HK is falling in line w/the rest of the Euroweenes who consider Israel an aggressor country in respect to the Palestinians. I guess you're not supposed to retaliate against a people/movement that vows to destroy your country. The Palestinians have rejected 3 peace deals w/Israel because they refuse to recognize their right to exist as a country.
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H&K Will Not Sell to Israel
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You can say whatever you want but I will always draw attention to the fact that you have yet to deny you are guilty of leftist tactics. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt by inquiring if you were a boomer but you said you weren't so you really have no excuse.
This entire concept of you labeling hk as nazis is as ironic as it gets as you just made a thread bitching about how Ben Shapiro was Labled Anti semetic.
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Sure, the CIA is everywhere - that doesn't mean our Allies don't deliberately provide information to them that they request. I do not believe there is a need to spy on our Allies - the Israelis are 'different'. If they want something, and we say 'no', they have demonstrated a willingness to break our laws to obtain the information they want.
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Mossad somehow manages to be even dirtier than the CIA, which I find hard to believe is possible.
What went-on INSIDE the camps was a surprise to everyone. The Allies were VERY surprised when they opened them and discovered the activities there. That has been fully documented.
There was NO EFFORT to allow, or condone, Nazi atrocities before, during, or after the war. Period. It was no secret that the Jews were abused, harassed, arrested and deported to camps, but I don't believe the US Govt. or its Military had prior knowledge that en entire nation of people were being massacred - there was no satellite imagery that would have provided real evidence of the Final Solution, which was a State Secret at the time.
Who started the Six Day War? Irrelevant - the borders of Israel grew, and land that was Arab was no-longer Arab.
Before the UN Resolution 181, that area was called 'Palestine' by every established Nation on-earth....whether you like it or not. Even the UN called it "The Partition Plan for Palestine".....
I am sorry but you dodge the question. What does this have to do with anything and frankly, not even sure what you are trying to said.
Again - you said that Israel is not a friend of the west, I asked if you could elaborate. What does what you said above have to do with "Israel not being a friend of the west", and also while we're at it, if Israel is not a friend of the west, who in your opinion is? I am curious.
LOL, that's not how the world works. Everyone pretty much spies on everyone. Even allies, although they typically take more precautions to prevent diplomatic nightmares. That's all part of "the game".
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Anti-Semitic? You'll really have to back that one up. It's anti-Israel, because the EU leftists are so screwed in the head they actually give a shit about the Palestinians, but to call it anti-Semitic is ridiculous. I just don't care about the Palestinians or the Israeli's, it's not America's problem.
Israel is, IMHO, a Nation onto itself, with allegiances for its own survival and to-hell with everyone else.
I do NOT believe the US actively "spies on everyone like the Israelis", therefore, what the Israelis did has some-kind of 'moral equivalence' - that's B.S.
I understand their Geo-Political 'siege mentality', really I do. They are surrounded by 'The Enemy'. So they feel obligated to do 'whatever is needed' to preserve the country, and that includes breaking US laws and International Law. That has consequences....
The US is also paying a price for this 'relationship'. 241 Marines murdered by Islamic Jihad in Beirut, PLO/Hamas/Hezbollah/PFLF/AAMB/ etc.etc.etc.
I believe our relationship with our 'true' Allies are much-more cooperative than this. There is no reason for the US to 'spy' on the British or the Germans or the Australians - somebody picks-up a phone and calls an Intel Counterpart and information is exchanged. Particularly if that info has something to do with the Russians or terrorism.
I very much doubt that this will be a crushing blow to Israel or any of the other countries named.
Probably not even a minor inconvenience.
There has to be more firearms producers now than any time in history.
H&K wants to lose out on sales?
Oh well.
Probably not even a minor inconvenience.
There has to be more firearms producers now than any time in history.
H&K wants to lose out on sales?
Oh well.
had a long talk with a tail gunner from that war. It was pretty much common knowledge, at least among the bomber squadrons, that trains were hauling off Jews to be killed. AND they could have blown up the train tracks and saved a bunch of Jews from that fate, BUT the decision was to bomb more "important" factories in Germany to hasten the end of the war. I am not going to argue a decision like that, since i was not there....but the allies DID know what was going on...especially after D Day
I'm very well aware that Spanz was the one that called H&K nazi's. I then said he was falsely accusing hk of being nazis and it was a leftist tactic which you then said my post was wrong on all points . Yet you continuously pussy foot around the topic of what a nazi is, the fact that crying Nazi to things you dont agree with being a leftist tactic, etc. We can go back in forth all day but the point your refusal to answer me will always lead me to believe you're defending a leftist tactic.
it's probably the opposite of how it really works. This is how countries get around laws preventing them from spying on their own citizens. If an ally (five eyes) country happens to spy on an American citizen, and shared that info with US intelligence, then no laws were broken by US assets. Do you see how that works, you watch my back, I'll watch yours.
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Seriously? All the millions of refugees, the code breaking, interrogation of Nazi prisoners, and you think we didn't know?
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Israel stays out of our ME wars because the US wants them to stay out. Can you imagine the shit show if they got involved.
And Israel has repeatedly tried to settle things with the Palestinians, but they refused, they keep calling for Israel's total destruction. How about they stop sending rockets into Israel.
Also everyone spys on everyone, it's what countrys do.
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Vast majority of Jews in this country vote for Democrats,so....the vast majority of Jews vote for people that want to restrict my freedoms.
So just like any other group who votes against my rights,I don't care how much they cry and complain.Pretty sure they don't need HK weapons anyway,we will give them all they need or they can make their own.
So just like any other group who votes against my rights,I don't care how much they cry and complain.Pretty sure they don't need HK weapons anyway,we will give them all they need or they can make their own.
