Certainly not a favorable business practice, IMO.That sh*t is so sketchy.
Nope.Did the store change names to RMV?
It is in NH, but it was close to the state line before it changed it's name and location.
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Certainly not a favorable business practice, IMO.That sh*t is so sketchy.
Nope.Did the store change names to RMV?
Never had any issues. Always just give my FFL a heads up and they’re very polite, friendly and helpful (Mass Firearms, fwiw).
That’s a pretty hilarious thing to hear in a store that was selling post-94 lowers in 2018, you know, after that whole Maura thing.MFS has some decent handgun classes, but their store is not great. Not that I was looking to buy any in MA guns, I was given a lecture that any post 94 lower is totally illegal and they don't sell them there. Some wildly overpriced pre-94 ban stuff. Meh...
Good luck find a Ruger Vaquero in any caliber.For example: Good luck finding a .357 Ruger Vaquero.
U.S. Supreme Court decision in 2018, the case of South Dakota v. Wayfair. That decision declared that the old requirement (from Quill Corp. v. North Dakota in 1992) that a business had to have a "physical presence” in a state in order to for the state to require them to collect that state's sales tax was now out dated. Because of the internet, businesses do not need a “physical presence” in order to do substantial business in a particular state. Since very few people actual pay “use tax” (what you’re suppose to pay instead of sales tax when you buy something without paying sales tax, usually by buying it out of sate), the SJC said the states were losing significant revenue due to the increase in internet sales. So they decided that sates with sales tax can now force businesses to collect the state’s sales tax when they sell to addresses in that state, even if they have no physical presence in that state.As far as I know, all the States that force them to.
It didn't start long ago, maybe a year or 2 ago.
Exactly. I'd think most FFLs LIKE to do transfers. They make $20-30 for filling out a form for 10-20 minutes. That's like $100/hr and they didn't have to take up time procuring or storage space on inventory to make that money. Plus they are getting someone who's forced to browse their retail selection for that time, and likley buy something.
I had a local gun store tell me they wouldn't do a transfer on a gun if they already had that gun in their store.
I told them it was a custom rifle that I wanted shipped in.
The person at the counter asked, "How much does it cost?"
My reply was, "Why does that matter?"
The counter person said, "We charge a percentage of the price as the transfer fee."
I said, "Thank you very much", then left the store, and did my transfer somewhere else.
Shortly after that the store changed owners, name, and location, but I have not asked again about transfer fees.
Had an FFL pull the "jump up the transfer fee if you don't buy ammo" crap on me ONCE! Used to deal with Dave's in Plaistow NH on a regular basis. Some over the counter from his stock (Sar1 for $185) and some incoming. Some schmuk took over the business, and when I had an AMD65 coming in, I asked over the phone what I owed him (Dave had been charging $25). He says "we'll work that out when you pick it up". Get there, he asks If I need ammo, and as I had just bought a couple of Ks, I declined. Charges me $50 for the transfer. This is way back when $50 was unheard of, and TGI AMD65's were $400. Yeah, he got an extra $25 out of me, but I have never set foot in his shitty store, and have advised anyone who asks, to avoid this asswipe. Has cost him WAY more than $25 in lost business.I had a local gun store tell me they wouldn't do a transfer on a gun if they already had that gun in their store.
I told them it was a custom rifle that I wanted shipped in.
The person at the counter asked, "How much does it cost?"
My reply was, "Why does that matter?"
The counter person said, "We charge a percentage of the price as the transfer fee."
I said, "Thank you very much", then left the store, and did my transfer somewhere else.
Shortly after that the store changed owners, name, and location, but I have not asked again about transfer fees.
This argument is often offered to support the "buy at your LGS" position, but if someone is thatWe need the LGS, and they don't make as much on a transfer as on a sale. I'm a big supporter of the LGS, partly because I miss what they used to be, large places with wall to wall guns and accessories (think Lew Hortons in Framingham). Those days are long gone, so we need to support what we have.
My personal approach. I've told my LGS that I will buy there if he has what I want, and I'm ok with paying a little more so I can put my hands on it. That said I've done a shit load of shipping to him and transfers, even did a couple walk-ins and transfer (seller was MA, I'm NH). BUT I always ask if it's OK before the item is shipped, it's just polite to ask.
And on-line isn't always the best. Brownells had some lowers on sale at a good price and I was going to buy a few. But when I stopped by my LGS to "ask" him, he had the same ones in stock and after accounting for the transfer and shipping they were cheaper. On-line and on-sale doesn't always equal less money.
Point was, many assume online is less expensive and don't bother checking.This argument is often offered to support the "buy at your LGS" position, but if someone is thatstupiduneducated that they can't figure out "total cost out the door," then they deserve whatever comes their way.
People do some weird mental gymnastics ...Then there's always the guy that sees it in your dealer case for 25 dollars more than online and then says I'd rather get it online, its cheaper..... That's the clown that's tough to deal with........
People do some weird mental gymnastics ...
Like that guy that wanted to spend $300 on a gun because he just wanted to waste ammo while waiting for a $500 gun to come down in price so he could sell the $300 gun for less than he paid and hopefully buy the $500 gun for $400.
I don't disagree, and those people I classified asPoint was, many assume online is less expensive and don't bother checking.
Such a great thread.People do some weird mental gymnastics ...
Like that guy that wanted to spend $300 on a gun because he just wanted to waste ammo while waiting for a $500 gun to come down in price so he could sell the $300 gun for less than he paid and hopefully buy the $500 gun for $400.
I was hoping someone would find it.Such a great thread.
Looking to get a sub $300 9mm for range shooting only
Only want it so I can shoot at the range this year with decently affordable 9mm ammo. No intention to keep it for long, waiting for PT92's to become more available and go down in price as I don't feel they're worth the $600 sellers are asking for them now. So here's what has caught my eye that...www.northeastshooters.com
This is the way I see it.I do not need to give someone money that acts like I kicked their dog just for entering the door. No reason because this region also has other great FFLs that I would rather buy from and keep them in business.
I’ve been to @Mass Firearms ‘store’ exactly twice to purchase listed items and both times I left empty handed shaking my head due to the counter helps poor attitude and just not knowing wtf they’re talking about.MFS has some decent handgun classes, but their store is not great. Not that I was looking to buy any in MA guns, I was given a lecture that any post 94 lower is totally illegal and they don't sell them there. Some wildly overpriced pre-94 ban stuff. Meh...
if you are paying using them. obviously - don`t, if you can. you can - typically almost always - to call the seller and sort out how you`re going to pay, directly.I haven't been on GB in a while, never bought anything there.
Is GB doing this with all the taxable states, or is this a Maura thing?
What if I sell my KAC upper on there, they charge tax on that as well?
there is 1 (one) guy in there that indeed always behaves like he is granting you a favor by even looking at you or god forbid you ask him anything.@Mass Firearms ‘store’ exactly twice to purchase listed items and both times I left empty handed shaking my head due to the counter helps poor attitude
I haven't been on GB in a while, never bought anything there.
Is GB doing this with all the taxable states, or is this a Maura thing?
What if I sell my KAC upper on there, they charge tax on that as well?
Places like MFS, DTE, etc are for low info types. Once you "know better" you generally stay away.
Yes and Yes
It's not a maura thing its a Wayfair thing
Faggots in supreme court legitimized sales tax on internet shit
Wayfair is still dodgeable (pick up a telephone) but not online purch anymore unless you live in NH or have a fully fungible drop point in a no sales tax state.
there was a way for direct payments there, but i did not try it lately and do not know if the GB will present you now with a bill to pay the sale tax portion on a completed sale or not, if buyer pays you directly with a check or paypal.Where is the sale taking place, in other words after buying a pistol, do you send the money to GB and GB pays the dealer?
What does Wayfair have to do with GB.. No idea what MFS, DTE are
So basically GB is acting as the tax collector for the dealers.
I guess the thing I don't get is that out of state businesses are required to collect tax if sales to this state( or any other state?) exceeds a certain amount, I think it was $5k.. So if some backwater dealer in WV has some rare and unique C&R pistol and the guy has never sold anything to any MA resident, GB will do it for him even though he is not required to collect,.. It should be up to the MA resident to claim out of state purchases on the year end rape sheet.
Ok.. Where is the sale taking place, in other words after buying a pistol, do you send the money to GB and GB pays the dealer?
No wonder prices are so high on GB, all the taxes and fees.
I will list my BNIB KAC 11.5 upper with a KAC carrier and chrome bolt for $6k, should clear like $800 after everything is said and done lol