Gun Storage

[snakedoc]

Hi all.

I am looking to purchase a handgun but my wife and I are at odds about keeping it in the house. Are there any ranges in the greater Boston area (specifically metro west) that offer gun storage/lockers?

Thanks!

 

[BE4TNUT]

I do not know of anything like that, or the legalities/liabilities of it but what is her argument for not letting it in the house?

 

[pdm]

Buy a safe before the handgun?

 

[TWtommers]

Went through the same thing. I know of, nor was I able to find any such place. I would imagine the liabilities of such an arrangement are too much to bear.

Ask your wife about what her specific reservations are about the guns in the house. It's likely that a good handgun safe will put those fears to rest as long as you can speak to that argument well. Try to understand her concerns but stand firm in your decision. That's my advice and what worked for me.

Now, stayed tuned for the "You're the man of the house so kick her ass out if she doesn't like it" Internet commando style marriage advice

 

[snakedoc]

Yeah that "I'm the man..." argument/advice is pretty lame. There is a dialogue ongoing, but when two people are sharing the same house you can't disrespect the others feelings (even if you don't agree).

My plan was to first take the basic firearms class and get licensed. Then my hope was to buy a gun and keep it at a range, and hope eventually some of the bad stigma would wear off.

I contacted AFS and they said they used to offer that service but the ATF made it tough on them so they had to stop. Gotta love the government's logic!

 

[TWtommers]

Bring your wife to the safety class. If it's a lack of knowledge of or experience with guns that drives her fears, taking the class will at least get her to a place where she can have a logical discussion. Mass Firearms School in Framingham let's you bring a guest to the class for free. They only have to pay if they want their certificate.

 

[Emoto]

Bring your wife to the safety class. If it's a lack of knowledge of or experience with guns that drives her fears, taking the class will at least get her to a place where she can have a logical discussion. Mass Firearms School in Framingham let's you bring a guest to the class for free. They only have to pay if they want their certificate.

This. Let both of you have knowledge and licenses. She may never be a gun person, but she will no longer have The Fear. On the bright side, she might find out she enjoys it.

 

[MA_Shooter]

Good advice on the safety class...taking her to the range might also help. Does she have a specific concern that you can address? For storage, you can keep it a friend's house (assuming they are licensed) but it defeats the purpose of a self-defense weapon as does any off-site storage solution.

 

[jaypap]

Keep um at my house I'll clean them and shoot them for you. You can use them any time you want.

 

[two-rocks]

but when two people are sharing the same house you can't disrespect the others feelings (even if you don't agree).

My plan was to first take the basic firearms class and get licensed. Then my hope was to buy a gun and keep it at a range, and hope eventually some of the bad stigma would wear off.

Gotta love the government's logic!

Your first statement is what you need to explain to her. Get a safe first as others have mentioned. I have the safe while waiting for the 'state' to infringe my 2a rights, my wife asked for the combo - I said only after you are comfortable with a firearm. She understands now not to 'bitch' about it. Having been married over 10 years, I know she'll come around.

You are a couple of months away from owning a firearm, take the course - encourage her to do the same. It will make talking points easier if she is in the class.

How long have you been married? {my guess, not long - that's not a bash on you, just an observation}

 

[TBalls]

Bring your wife to the safety class. If it's a lack of knowledge of or experience with guns that drives her fears, taking the class will at least get her to a place where she can have a logical discussion. Mass Firearms School in Framingham let's you bring a guest to the class for free. They only have to pay if they want their certificate.

Yup.....and keep the dialogue going. My wife was fine when I wanted to start shooting again, but initially didn't want me to own a gun or have them in the house. Maybe it's just b/c it seemed a little out of left field since I hadn't really shot since we met. Now she's really pretty cool with it, and she wants to learn & get her LTC. I think it helps to show how passionate "gun people" are about safety first and foremost.

 

[snakedoc]

All great thoughts. It is her unfamiliarity with them and also the fact that it was drilled into her her whole life that guns are evil. I have my work cut out for me in quelling that notion.

It's not about how long we've been together but rather this is the first time I have broached the subject. Being a new home owner I think is what put it in the forefront for me (even though we live in a much safer place than before).

 

[M1911]

I am looking to purchase a handgun but my wife and I are at odds about keeping it in the house. Are there any ranges in the greater Boston area (specifically metro west) that offer gun storage/lockers?

I'm not aware of any gun club that provides gun storage.

If you can manage it, I suggest you get your wife to take a basic pistol class with AWARE: http://www.aware.org/

AWARE was founded by women, and many of the instructors are woman.

 

[dhuze]

Yeah that "I'm the man..." argument/advice is pretty lame. There is a dialogue ongoing, but when two people are sharing the same house you can't disrespect the others feelings (even if you don't agree)....................

[on soapbox]Every time I see this statement I wonder why it's ok for one person to say now, but not ok for the other to say yes. She says NO and you say it's disrespectful to say YES. Why is it always (ok most of the time) the females answer is the one we need to listen to. [/off soapbox]

That being said. The problem with "off site" storage is the ATF will make it just like going to a dealer. Every firearm will need to be log in and out in a bound book. I do not disagree with an off site place to keep guns, but the liability and legal ramifications will get somebody in trouble eventually. I personally would not want to be going to jail because i might be holding a stolen firearm or maybe keeping one that may belong to a felon or somebody prohibited from owning a firearm. Just too much legal mumbo jumbo involved, not to mention insuring everything since fireamrs are not usually in a standard policy.

 

[M1911]

That being said. The problem with "off site" storage is the ATF will make it just like going to a dealer. Every firearm will need to be log in and out in a bound book.

Would you care to provide a citation for this?

 

[snakedoc]

I hear ya Dhuze. I just know I won't get anywhere butting heads with her. Got to take some different tactics to get what I want.

 

[Emoto]

I hear ya Dhuze. I just know I won't get anywhere butting heads with her. Got to take some different tactics to get what I want.

Respect is a two-way street.

 

[BradM]

Have her take the class with you, at MFS it won't even cost you any money if she doesn't want the certificate.

After that, go green here and I'll invite you both to go shooting with the wife and I.

 

[Emoto]

One thing I learned about people who are afraid of guns is to make sure you give them REALLY GOOD ear protection. They will already be nervous and jumpy, and the noise frightens them. A good pair of electronic muffs, with earplugs under, if shooting centerfire, allows them to relax and enjoy it without so much of the sudden shock of a report.

 

[fencer]

I hear ya Dhuze. I just know I won't get anywhere butting heads with her. Got to take some different tactics to get what I want.

Start taking the time to point out crimes that were committed in your immediate area as they pop up. When your wife sees/ reads about home invasions, murders, robberies and rapes in your neighborhood she may look at the idea in a different light. You have plenty of time while you wait for a permit.

I have always had a gun in the house but last year when a guy tried to smash into my neighbors house at 09:30 on a weekday, she mentioned that she was glad we were prepared.

Also, take the time to educate her about the safety features of modern hand guns including " Drop Safe tests". She may feel better when she understands that the gun will not just go off by itself.

Ultimately, it is a trust issue. She needs to trust you with a firearm the same way that she trusts you to get her home safely when driving on a rainy night. Also, I would recommend that you make a commitment to get some training and make her aware that you are going to do it. One of the reasons that you want to lawfully possess a firearm is so that you can ensure her safety and that you take it very seriously.

Give her some time, try to educate her to the best of your ability. The good news is that there is a dialog. Hopefully, she will come around.

If not...... start trying to figure out where you can hide a small gun safe with a couple of spare magazines where she will never find it. Hide it with your porn, she will never look there and if she does she will never admit it.

 

[davemata]

Hi all.

I am looking to purchase a handgun but my wife and I are at odds about keeping it in the house. Are there any ranges in the greater Boston area (specifically metro west) that offer gun storage/lockers?

Thanks!

GL man. I'm having the same argument at home. My way around it was to agree to a shotgun and rifle only. She's already survived a civil war, I think I'm damn lucky to be "allowed" a rifle. Look to compromise where you can - in my case, a safe is looking like what it's going to take, as well as not leaving any trace of it around when she's home. Then over time, she'll warm up to it.

If you're crafty, you'll get her to the point where she's willing to learn how to use it, then things will change.

 

[Gammon]

Both MRA in Woburn and BGRA in Dorchester rent lockers to their members. I don't know if firearm storage is allowed.

 

[fencer]

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. Welcome to the forum and best of luck with your permit. Just showing up here and starting the process, you have taken a huge step towards becoming a more responsible citizen and husband. Well done.

If you ever want to take a trip to the range I would be happy to take you as a guest. No permit required. It would be my pleasure. I am always going anyway and like to help new folks get into the sport. I have extra of everything you need and all you would need to do is show up. My son and I usually go once a week but the indoor range is open 24/7.

Again, best of luck. Rep points inbound!

 

[davemata]

Start taking the time to point out crimes that were committed in your immediate area as they pop up. When your wife sees/ reads about home invasions, murders, robberies and rapes in your neighborhood she may look at the idea in a different light. You have plenty of time while you wait for a permit.

Ah yes, the fear and propoganda approach, works for politics (TSA) so why not here?

Also, take the time to educate her about the safety features of modern hand guns including " Drop Safe tests". She may feel better when she understands that the gun will not just go off by itself.

Awesome advice, this is imperative.

Ultimately, it is a trust issue. She needs to trust you with a firearm the same way that she trusts you to get her home safely when driving on a rainy night. Also, I would recommend that you make a commitment to get some training and make her aware that you are going to do it. One of the reasons that you want to lawfully possess a firearm is so that you can ensure her safety and that you take it very seriously.

Give her some time, try to educate her to the best of your ability. The good news is that there is a dialog. Hopefully, she will come around.

Absolutely, she has to trust you + the gun. It's not that you are untrustworthy (or not, that's your relationship), but you need to build a new type of trust that involves the firearms. It will take time and work, but you have the potential to convert a "moonbat" (or w/e term is used here) into someone that can see both sides of the story, if not become a convert.

If not...... start trying to figure out where you can hide a small gun safe with a couple of spare magazines where she will never find it. Hide it with your porn, she will never look there and if she does she will never admit it.

Doesn't work for e-porn though.

 

[MaxStravinsky]

You might mention those horrible home invasions in CT & NH - I know of several folks who went out got licensed and bought firearms because of those specific crimes.

 

[Terminator03]

I am going through this battle on a daily basis myself, and it is a real pain in the ass! At first she was totally against EVER having any guns in the house at all because of the children. I finally worked through that with the compromise of buying a safe first, which is fine, because of the storage laws in this state anyway. Yesterday, I wanted to go and pick up a carry gun at my FFL, but she wanted to go, and sice we had no one to watch our 9 y.o. daughter, it was a no-go. This, of course initiated a scuffle because I pointed out that it will be impossible to prevent our daughter from ever knowing that I have guns! She is under some delusion that it needs to be that way for her "safety". Of course this is plain silly, because the only chance you have of real safety is through proper education - not trying to hide it's existence. At least I have her on board to take the ltc course. My hope is that taking the course herself will take away some irrational fears. Man, whatever happened to the good old days when you could just be a man, and "slap that ho" if they got out of line?

 

[Billsail]

Keep um at my house I'll clean them and shoot them for you. You can use them any time you want.

This is actually one answer to your problem. If you can't work it out with your wife, find someone, nearby, you can trust with an LTC, and "rent" storage space in their safe. Good Luck

Bill

 

[Kevlar]

Start taking the time to point out crimes that were committed in your immediate area as they pop up. When your wife sees/ reads about home invasions, murders, robberies and rapes in your neighborhood she may look at the idea in a different light.....

Better yet, stories of attempted home invasions, murders, robberies and rapes that have been prevented by lawful gun owners...http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=2258539

 

[terraformer]

All of the people who are stating that he should talk about the home invasions, etc. Bad idea. She thinks guns are evil. She thinks self defense is evil too I am sure. He needs to do this in stages. Take her to an AWARE event. Get her comfortable with the guns and then get them in the house. Then it's time to talk about self defense. But frankly, she will come to that herself.

 

[fencer]

Yeah but how do you get her to go to an AWARE event?