Gun Shop is Robbed...

We don’t want handguns out there hurting innocent people," Hunt said.
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Got to love that statement. Just imagine those handguns roaming the streets...

Hopefully with the surveillance footage they'll be able to track this guy down.

ETA: I agree, we will pay for it. They're going to use this as more ammo to put pressure on gun shops.
 
cd...

Ya beat me to it. But rather than tracking down the guy, find those handguns and arrest them before they hurt anyone!
 
Robery

I wonder if they breeched a safe? Most of theshops I know have the usual alarms, but also move all the handguns into safes when they are closed - same procedure as jewelery stores use for their wares.
 
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Rob Boudrie said:
I wonder if they breeched a safe? Most of theshops I know have the usual alarms, but also move all the handguns into safes when they are closed - same procedure as jewelery stores use for their wares.
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I was wondering the same thing. Being that it would lean to an inside job. Because I wouldn't think to come in from the HVAC system. Not without knowing the layout.

But he did say that he thought that his shop was a vault, so maybe he didn't put everything away.
 
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C-pher said:
I was wondering the same thing. Being that it would lean to an inside job. Because I wouldn't think to come in from the HVAC system. Not without knowing the layout.

But he did say that he thought that his shop was a vault, so maybe he didn't put everything away.
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HVAC are a popular point of entry.
 
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JonJ said:
C-pher said:
I was wondering the same thing. Being that it would lean to an inside job. Because I wouldn't think to come in from the HVAC system. Not without knowing the layout.

But he did say that he thought that his shop was a vault, so maybe he didn't put everything away.
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HVAC are a popular point of entry.
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That's why I'm not a cat burgler... And thus it shows that I would be a very bad one as I did not know that.
 
Well the robber has a two day head start..... The alarm was sunday am, 4 am and 6. The owner should have gone down after getting the call but instead he must have just told the alarm co to reset if the police see no point of entry. fast forward to this morning when he goes to work (closed sunday monday) he sees the robbery..

Most alarm co will reset if inside motion goes off after police check. If it is a fire alarm the owner has to go to the location so they can get inside if they dont have a key at HQ.
 
Come in through the HVAC system? That only works in the movies. I'm an HVAC mechanic and unless this was some large comercial type building system I can't see the ductwork supporting a man's weight. Also, these things aren't just open to the outside. If it's a rooftop unit then the unit either sits on or is next to and connected to the ductwork. Besides, Once in the duct, where are you going? Out through an 8" square vent and drop to the floor?

Of course I don't know this shop and it may well have large, well supported commercial sized ductwork in it large enough for a man to crawl through but I doubt it.

Just my $.02

C-
 
if the weapons werent stowed in a safe after hours then the owner is a much to blame as anyone.I dont even own a gun store and i have a friggin safe
 
Snakeeye - I gotta disagree.
One person/group to blame. The robbers. There is no way I would blame the owner.

That being said, the federales have been requiring additional protection for FFLs for some time. Alarms are just part of it.

Mike
 
MikeYarosh said:
Snakeeye - I gotta disagree.
One person/group to blame. The robbers. There is no way I would blame the owner.

That being said, the federales have been requiring additional protection for FFLs for some time. Alarms are just part of it.

Mike
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sorry i cant acquiese on this one.
licenced firearms owners in this state are required by law to keep their handguns locked up when not under direct control. the same should apply for shop owners, and i dont mean inside a storage closet, or under glass with a trigger lock.. theres no excuse for pistols to not be locked up at night in a safe. long arms are an exception, but pistols there is simply no excuse.
it may be the criminals to blame in the end , but there is such a thing as facilitation.

the only thing we DO know for sure is that we DONT know what happened there that night. maybe there was a safe, and all this talk is for not. but my impression is that there was a serious fault in the manner in which they secured theirs arms after hours predicated by an overconfidence in their perimeter security.

With the motion detectors, security and the tape security and everything, we felt this was a total lockbox
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and there in lies the problem i believe.
The very concept of "Absolute security" is an oxymoronic impossibility
 
Snakeeye - We'll happily disagree.

I'll not advocate the breaking of laws. And I do keep my firearms lawfully secure.

However - I'll never blame the victum.

This is a black eye for all of us and I hope the guns are recovered soon.
 
storage ?????

Why is it when I go in to any gun shop I see all the pistols locked up and they are put away at nite..but te rifles remain out unlocked all day and at nite......yet in my alarmed home..I have to keep my guns locked at all times unless they are strapped to me [?] Just being very sarcastic,but you get the idea...
 
Well, this is hearsay. But a guy I work with, his kid lives over by the shop, or the owner, or something. I guess that he knows the owner somehow...not really sure.

Anyway, he said that the ATF and FBI are looking into this whole thing. I guess that some Class III items were stolen as well. And that the owner is trying to keep things as low on the radar with the media as possible.

Again, don't know how true this is, but the guy that told me isn't a gun guy, and didn't konw what Class III items really were. So he heard it from someone. But he said that a lot more was stolen that what's being reported in the general media.
 
Ken,

I don't know the answer for sure but can give a good guess.

Rifles/shotguns take up a LOT of space and no gun shop has enough vault space to store them all, so it became custom (long before our draconian laws) to leave them out at night.

Also, most of the anti-gun hysteria of yesteryear was aimed at handguns, small, concealable, etc. So whatever laws/regs put into effect (pre-1998) targeted them and ignored long guns.

BTW, some shops like NET have a rather unique way to lock up all long guns too at the end of the day.
 
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