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Gun Confiscation Coming in Virginia

drgrant said:
If true, then he made an idiot mistake, probably got too ambitious.... not sure how he could think this was going to go well. Most of shitbergs moves have been pretty calculated and incremental, but this... this is going full retard, all chips in, etc. In the long game, good for us regardless, this bullshit needs to be stomped now rather than later.

-Mike
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He's running for president. Disarming VA would be a signature accomplishment to his base.
 
watchman said:
Now that Virginia is a wholly Democrat enclave the D's are coming for the guns. I wonder how many gun toting Virginians voted for the big D just desserts and all that.

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Sweeping VA gun ban, likely confiscation without grandfather clause, proposed by state legislature

Virginia lawmakers are now considering a state law banning the ownership of certain semi-automatic guns deemed "assault firearms" and limiting the
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The thing is I don’t think enough people voted at all. I think most folks didn’t vote and that’s why the Dems took control. I believe they felt safe and had nothing to worry about? And they were very very wrong.

So I’m gonna do you and everyone else is gonna do sit back and watch to see what happens?

I pray nothing happens accept the def ears and the Dems plans fall apart.
 
Warm_Garand said:
I'd say anyone who underestimates the resolve of Virginians to resist these latest political shenanigans does so at their own peril.

People from the north are shit-talkers and flakes. Southerners have their own history, and their own sense of honor, and it is underscored with the blood of their great, great grandfathers, and it is remembered still.

They are not going to kneel and suck it.

A cop from Virginia posted this sitrep on AR15.com:

This law didn't get passed, at the time it did, written like it was, because Virginia LE lined up in support of Northam and gave him a warm fuzzy feeling. It was written because he got told across the board to get f***ed. I work for a police department in Virginia. My Chief is appointed and not elected. As long as he keeps the City council happy he would have a job if he were personally gassing Jews. My department will NOT be enforcing any of these laws, much less rounding up guns. It couldn't be more clear that LE as a whole is on the side of the citizenry. You don't have to threaten people to do things they want to do. You don't float the use of a standing military unit as police if you already have police.

The Yankee plant seems to have forgotten that the police and National guard are the people of Virginia. The families of Virginians, the decendents of Virginians who started the Revolution and largely led the civil war. I have pictures of George Washington and Stonewall Jackson hanging in my home as well as a a copy of the declaration of independence. Attempting any of this stupid shit outside of occupied NOVA absolutely 100% WILL result in bloodshed on a large scale.

Anyone who denies this isn't in Virginia right now. People are pissed, talking about it and mobilizing. Weapons are being PMCSd, ammunition is being gathered, and people are forming small units. Purchases of body armor long put off are happening, you can't buy an LBE in any Army surplus store at any price right now. Not people like us(Gun nuts largely) but my carpenter,the guy who sold me a door at Lowes, and the guy at my gym who I didn't even know owned a gun.

If these people are openly talking armed action to a known LEO........... Its really close to kicking off. The line is drawn,and its in Virginia.
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Good.

I (sort of) hope this is true.

There is something about the Revolution though - that he's just a little bit off the mark on: the Revolution started up here in MA. I know the Virginians followed REALLY closely after that - but MA is where the whole thing got lit off.

Here's something about that Revolution though - that I don't think a lot of people put much time into really pondering:

Early in the morning on April 19, 1775 - the militiamen of Lexington found out the British were definitely on their way - so they assembled on Lexington Common. Captain Parker said: " Don't fire unless fired upon - but if they mean to have a war - let it begin here".

When the British assembled in front of the Lexington militia - Major Pitcairn said: 'Throw down your arms! Ye villians, ye rebels.’

Colonel Parker ordered his men to disperse, and they started to obey. None had thrown down their arms, but many of those who had heard Parker's command turned away and showed their departing backs to the British.

A shot was fired.

The British soldiers then fired at the militiamen - apparently without orders. Then they bayonet charged. When it was all over 8 militia men were dead - and 9 were wounded.

One British soldier was wounded.

Like Rambo said a couple of centuries later: "They drew first blood".


I think this sequence of events is a very critical thing to understand. I've read somewhere in the past - the events of April 19, 1775 gave the American Revolution moral legitimacy. It's not like the militia started shooting up the British the minute they left Boston. Doing something like that REALLY would have made them "rebels". They gathered on the common to confront the British troops - who were sent out to confiscate property owned by the colonists. When ordered to disperse - THEY DID. A shot rang out - the British troops then went apeshit and started shooting down the militiamen and bayoneting them.

The minute this happened - the militia had the moral right to start shooting back at those soldiers. From that point on - the rebellion was a matter of " So - that's how it's going to be then....." - because the British had clearly demonstrated what their policy was going to be going forward: Either obey orders - or get shot down. Or obey orders - and STILL get shot down.

The Revolution gained moral legitimacy - from what happened on Lexington Common.



This is - in my opinion - a very important thing to understand. Because those people in Virginia who are getting organized to oppose their out of control state government cannot go off half-cocked and get drawn into some government led event designed to make them look bad. They really need to get their shit together - and then give the government enough rope to hang itself - IF they really want to win this thing in the end.
 
calsdad said:
Good.

I (sort of) hope this is true.

There is something about the Revolution though - that he's just a little bit off the mark on: the Revolution started up here in MA. I know the Virginians followed REALLY closely after that - but MA is where the whole thing got lit off.

Here's something about that Revolution though - that I don't think a lot of people put much time into really pondering:

Early in the morning on April 19, 1775 - the militiamen of Lexington found out the British were definitely on their way - so they assembled on Lexington Common. Captain Parker said: " Don't fire unless fired upon - but if they mean to have a war - let it begin here".

When the British assembled in front of the Lexington militia - Major Pitcairn said: 'Throw down your arms! Ye villians, ye rebels.’

Colonel Parker ordered his men to disperse, and they started to obey. None had thrown down their arms, but many of those who had heard Parker's command turned away and showed their departing backs to the British.

A shot was fired.

The British soldiers then fired at the militiamen - apparently without orders. Then they bayonet charged. When it was all over 8 militia men were dead - and 9 were wounded.

One British soldier was wounded.

Like Rambo said a couple of centuries later: "They drew first blood".


I think this sequence of events is a very critical thing to understand. I've read somewhere in the past - the events of April 19, 1775 gave the American Revolution moral legitimacy. It's not like the militia started shooting up the British the minute they left Boston. Doing something like that REALLY would have made them "rebels". They gathered on the common to confront the British troops - who were sent out to confiscate property owned by the colonists. When ordered to disperse - THEY DID. A shot rang out - the British troops then went apeshit and started shooting down the militiamen and bayoneting them.

The minute this happened - the militia had the moral right to start shooting back at those soldiers. From that point on - the rebellion was a matter of " So - that's how it's going to be then....." - because the British had clearly demonstrated what their policy was going to be going forward: Either obey orders - or get shot down. Or obey orders - and STILL get shot down.

The Revolution gained moral legitimacy - from what happened on Lexington Common.



This is - in my opinion - a very important thing to understand. Because those people in Virginia who are getting organized to oppose their out of control state government cannot go off half-cocked and get drawn into some government led event designed to make them look bad. They really need to get their shit together - and then give the government enough rope to hang itself - IF they really want to win this thing in the end.
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Your proposal is a fairy tale. This is not the 18th century. There will likely be video of whatever happens and the government will drive the narrative. Just look at how they killed Finicum. They practically streamed his murder.

In the very thin probability the government strikes first on video and it's a Ruby Ridge style occurance, expect the NSA to immediately turnoff the internet, or at least the news portions.

You're either ready to be demonized or your not. And once the propaganda starts expect the people caught up in the opening salvo to start turning the power off. Because that will be their only option to offset all the propaganda. Plus hard cutting the power to major cities gives the government a second problem of controlling the animals that live there.
 

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Sample:

"So, one US Rep Donald McEachin (D-Deep State)(that's sarcasm, okay?) has proposed having the governor "Nationalize the National Guard" to deal with the problem. (Give him credit. At least he didn't threaten to use nukes, like a certain former presidential candidate. OTOH, if VA actually had nukes, he might have.)
Let me explain this:
The governor can't "nationalize" the National Guard. He can call them to state active duty.

Per Posse Commitatus, they can't engage in law enforcement on Federal orders anyway. On state orders, yes, but, keep reading.

It would also still require a search warrant for every single domicile if they could.

Other than a handful of MPs, none have training for this process. Even if you squint hard at qualifications and add a few others, the actual number of troops qualified to do this is a few HUNDRED at most. The entire VA Army National Guard is about 7500, mostly support.

The National Guard does not keep ammo on hand in any relevant quantities. A small amount for training is it.

Per US Constitution and federal law, the governor CANNOT arm the NATIONAL Guard with federally owned weapons and ammo. He'd have to provide that.

Nor can he arm them without consent of the feds anyway. There are reasons for this. This is one of those reasons.

And the threat to do so is LITERALLY WHY WE HAVE THE SECOND AMENDMENT. Congrats, jerkwad! You've actually threatened to have the military repress people, and you're surprised that they're going to oppose you? EVERYONE should be opposing you. It's outrageous of itself, and and outrageous precedent if allowed.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but there should be politicians hanging from lampposts over this.
Our society started to fail when we stopped tarring and feathering.
But if despite all that, you make the attempt:".....
 
Gunrunner said:
The thing is I don’t think enough people voted at all. I think most folks didn’t vote and that’s why the Dems took control. I believe they felt safe and had nothing to worry about? And they were very very wrong.

So I’m gonna do you and everyone else is gonna do sit back and watch to see what happens?

I pray nothing happens accept the def ears and the Dems plans fall apart.
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My understanding here is that the GOP dropped the ball so completely that many elections looked like they came right out of Massachusetts with only Democrats on the ballots running completely unopposed. So even if people showed up, they had no one to vote for. I highly suspect that most write-ins end up not being counted anyhow.

Also it appears that a lot of gerrymandering occurred to help negate much of the state in favor of Democratic strongholds.
 
I suspect the retards are going to get stand down orders from higher up the party chain. Once the shooting starts, who knows where it will stop? It will show a lot of people that we actually do hold all the cards and that violence is a viable option when dealing with government overreach. If the people of Virginia crush their would be tyrants, how many more would be motivated to just tell the .gov to F off next time something disagreeable comes up?

This is a very dangerous game they are playing. They are reminding us that we are Americans
 
polska1957 said:
Does anybody really think that the citizens of Virginia who were to lazy to even vote, and let the libs in, are all of a sudden going to risk everything for an AR15. Americans are too fat and happy with their lifestyles to risk anything. This isn't 1776 and we are not the people we once were.
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I'm going to guess that you were never that person to begin with.

Did you volunteer to fight in Afghanistan? In Iraq?

Do you understand that there are quite a few people who did--and quite a few of those people (from what I am reading) are pissed, sick of this shit, and are preparing to converge on Virginia?

polska1957 said:
Well I wish them the best but don't have much faith. Like the quote in the movie says "they can talk the talk but can they walk the walk".
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From what I'm reading they certainly can. These guys are not unfamiliar with violence, and they are talking casually about medics and blowout kits.



polska1957 said:
This is the 21st century, Don't pay your taxes they with hold your registration, don't allow you to renew license, withhold income tax, put lean on property and possibly attach pay or hold your bank account. This is not 1776, the government holds all the cards, we may go down in a blaze of glory but in the end they will win. Watch most of the town meetings, nothing but old white guys that are 50 or older with a sprinkling of younger folks. The young only care about who's playing football this weekend and video games and their new iPhone. America or our rights mean nothing to them until they lose them and then it will be too late. We are living in modern Rome and history is just repeating itself.
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As I read your quotes, it is painfully obvious to me that you're talking about YOU, and I'm not quite sure how it is that inside your complacent head you don't understand that there are men in this world who are braver and stronger and more principled than you.

Does that fact surprise you?

The good news--for you--is that basically you'll just need to stay out of the way and they'll be the ones to sort this out.

Sound like a plan?

You said that "nobody is going to fight to keep an AR15". That isn't what this is about. Not really.

The REAL problem here is that the Democrats are arrogantly trying to rewrite the rules for American society in defiance of the Constitution, and SOMEHOW they feel free with a stroke of the pen to rob people of their Constitutional rights and make criminals of honest law-abiding Americans who stand in opposition to their political agenda.

If THAT isn't worth fighting for, then NOTHING is.
 
Warm_Garand said:
As I read your quotes, it is painfully obvious to me that you're talking about YOU, and I'm not quite sure how it is that inside your complacent head you don't understand that there are men in this world who are braver and stronger and more principled than you.

Does that fact surprise you?

The good news--for you--is that basically you'll just need to stay out of the way and they'll be the ones to sort this out.
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Thomas Paine approved.
 
I think @polska1957 and @Warm_Garand accurately describe some portion of the population. I hate to speculate what percent fall into each.

Warm_Garand said:
The good news--for you--is that basically you'll just need to stay out of the way and they'll be the ones to sort this out.
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Thankfully the complacent "bread and circuses" types will do that out of habit. It may not have really been just three percent who fought the Revolution but there will always be some liberty-minded and action-inclined among us, and they don't necessarily need to be a majority.
 
This is interesting and relevant: Virginia’s Second Amendment Sanctuaries: An Update | National Review

The maps are a little hard to understand, but basically it shows that there are several VA senate districts that are (or will be) represented by a democrat, but the counties and localities in those districts have mostly or entirely voted for sanctuary. So there should be some significant pressure on those reps to cross party lines on gun bills. I hope.

The map of districts in also very interesting in regards to the gerrymandering that has taken place.
 
Everyone talks big until someone gets arrested and made example of. Then 99% of people fall in line and accept gov power. I see no reason why the Ds wouldn't push forward here.

First they aren't smart enough to think far ahead. If they were, they wouldn't be socialists in the first place.

Second, other states have been trodding all over 2A constantly with zero repercussions and Trump, SCOTUS, et al haven't intervened. Hell, there another thread we're talking about Snowden proving the NSA was spying on every US person and Trump still wants to prosecute him.

Government will protect itself before all others. VA passes full retard law. Someone in VA shoots a statist cop enforcing said law. I guarantee in that scenario it is 1000x more likely Trump sends in NG to protect cops than it is he sends them in to protect 2A.
 
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It comes down to people on both side asking themselves , what would I die for ?
I don't think Bloomberg campaign contributions meet the threshold .
Freedom from tyranny on the other hand..
Resolve has won more battles than hardware.
 
Warm_Garand said:
I'm going to guess that you were never that person to begin with.

Did you volunteer to fight in Afghanistan? In Iraq?

Do you understand that there are quite a few people who did--and quite a few of those people (from what I am reading) are pissed, sick of this shit, and are preparing to converge on Virginia?



From what I'm reading they certainly can. These guys are not unfamiliar with violence, and they are talking casually about medics and blowout kits.






As I read your quotes, it is painfully obvious to me that you're talking about YOU, and I'm not quite sure how it is that inside your complacent head you don't understand that there are men in this world who are braver and stronger and more principled than you.

Does that fact surprise you?

The good news--for you--is that basically you'll just need to stay out of the way and they'll be the ones to sort this out.

Sound like a plan?

You said that "nobody is going to fight to keep an AR15". That isn't what this is about. Not really.

The REAL problem here is that the Democrats are arrogantly trying to rewrite the rules for American society in defiance of the Constitution, and SOMEHOW they feel free with a stroke of the pen to rob people of their Constitutional rights and make criminals of honest law-abiding Americans who stand in opposition to their political agenda.

If THAT isn't worth fighting for, then NOTHING is.
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GEE! a personal attack and you don't even know me. Well you're my new hero. Get your go bag ready kiss your family good bye cause daddy gonna fight for ar15s. If you think that the same people who, in any election are too lazy to go vote or to cheap to join the NRA or GOAL or any other pro gun organization or go to town hall meetings are right behind , good luck to you, The government has been taxing us up the wasso, and nobody does anything ( that's what really pissed off the founding fathers) sending American troops to fight foreign wars (they were against that too) . I guess I'll see you at the Boston Tea Party or the Burning of the Gaspie. That was all about taxes,
 

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