Gun Confiscation Coming in Virginia

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It has been done at least twice before. Maine seceded from Massachusetts and West Virginia split from Virginia.
You're not joking. I've been hearing *REGULAR* conversations about Cumberland County trying to rejoin the rift. I've even seen a few signs with images of both states on it, cuddled up next to each other. I'll try and snap a pic next time I pass one.
 

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Why?

As far as i can tell, this is as close to go time as I've ever witnessed in my 45 years. I know people who are heading there. I know people who are there, and I know a metric crap load of people who want to be there.

This is as good a time as any.

The thing that makes me think this is the real deal is people I would NEVER in my wildest dreams have thought would get involved, are. And then I come here and the thread is stickied. Everyone knows the mods here are omnipotent and know something is up.
Its my hope that the very same people remember that we have a lot of bad legislation to fight here at home in NH this year.....next week we need to muster folks to show up for the vote on Red Flag legislation on 1/8-1/9 in HB687.......that IMHO is far more important than spending several days going to Va......if you can do both then great.....if you can only do one then you need to focus on stopping the red flag bill in the House.....
 

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The thing here is that VA hasn’t been historically Dem. We aren’t just going to roll over and take it. We have been fighting back against them wayyy before this recent stuff with SB16. We will continue to fight back with huge efforts and support from VCDL, and now with support from surrounding states and across the country.

I have been to several lobby day events with VCDL while living here. There are group leaders that take you around to your legislators so you’re not just on your own and feel overwhelmed. You go with people who live in the same district as you (presumably). You spend several minutes talking, asking questions, then you move on to the next person. Generally, VCDL members are dressed in business casual attire. If you think they’re not going to listen to you while dressed nicely, I don’t think they’re going to even want to listen to you dressed like an a**h***. It’s a business meeting after all, so dress for it.

The rally will be something new. It will be a sight to see. I’ve been to the rallies in MA before too and I think this one in Richmond will smash the numbers, in terms of attendance. People from all over the state and country will be there. VCDL says they expect 10K - 100K people.

Here’s to hoping everything stays civil.
 

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The thing here is that VA hasn’t been historically Dem. We aren’t just going to roll over and take it. We have been fighting back against them wayyy before this recent stuff with SB16. We will continue to fight back with huge efforts and support from VCDL, and now with support from surrounding states and across the country.

I have been to several lobby day events with VCDL while living here. There are group leaders that take you around to your legislators so you’re not just on your own and feel overwhelmed. You go with people who live in the same district as you (presumably). You spend several minutes talking, asking questions, then you move on to the next person. Generally, VCDL members are dressed in business casual attire. If you think they’re not going to listen to you while dressed nicely, I don’t think they’re going to even want to listen to you dressed like an a**h***. It’s a business meeting after all, so dress for it.

The rally will be something new. It will be a sight to see. I’ve been to the rallies in MA before too and I think this one in Richmond will smash the numbers, in terms of attendance. People from all over the state and country will be there. VCDL says they expect 10K - 100K people.

Here’s to hoping everything stays civil.
So, you're going business casual but bringing a tyvek suit, fresh jug of tar and a bag of feathers just in case eh?

[rofl]
 

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The rally will be something new. It will be a sight to see. I’ve been to the rallies in MA before too and I think this one in Richmond will smash the numbers, in terms of attendance. People from all over the state and country will be there. VCDL says they expect 10K - 100K people.

Here’s to hoping everything stays civil.

Bless your little patriot heart, be safe.

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Yeah, they better bring more than 18 if they want to kick off the big igloo.

But at least he's told everyone what he plans to bring. I'm willing to bet he finds enough to fill his quota, but it won't be enough to matter.




God I hope this ends up being the case.
If you think about it, that 18 are going to be the dregs .
Who else would sign up for it ?
Unfortunately they are going to be the exact kind of people who can't wait to "Get it on. " which is what's going to lead to the fuse hitting the powder keg.
Some little kids are going to get lit up or some such disaster on one of their bullshit raids and what happened in Northern Ireland is going to look like a Sunday prayer meeting by comparison .

I hope it never comes to it .
 
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I'm wondering if anyone has reached out to SHOT show and approached them about... an emergency venu change.
Actually. Hang on. Finding their contact info.
 

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... We aren’t just going to roll over and take it. We have been fighting back against them wayyy before this recent stuff with SB16. We will continue to fight back with huge efforts and support from VCDL, and now with support from surrounding states and across the country...
Massachusetts could use a girl like you...! [smile]
 

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"Members of Virginia’s top pro-gun group recently posted signs in the town of Culpeper with a reproduction of the racist photo that appeared in Gov. Ralph Northam’s 1984 medical school yearbook. At least two of the signs, mounted on foamboard, were prominently posted on utility poles sometime during the weekend after Christmas in the historically African-American neighborhood along Old Fredericksburg and Orange roads. Some of the area is low income, situated in town gateways along State Route 3 and U.S. 15." (Emily Jennings/Culpeper Star-Exponent)
 

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"Members of Virginia’s top pro-gun group recently posted signs in the town of Culpeper with a reproduction of the racist photo that appeared in Gov. Ralph Northam’s 1984 medical school yearbook. At least two of the signs, mounted on foamboard, were prominently posted on utility poles sometime during the weekend after Christmas in the historically African-American neighborhood along Old Fredericksburg and Orange roads. Some of the area is low income, situated in town gateways along State Route 3 and U.S. 15." (Emily Jennings/Culpeper Star-Exponent)
I love this. Put them up everywhere.
 

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Given what is happening with Iran, .gov (Fed and State) should be mustering the Militia who own the 400million guns to protect the Homeland from the sleeper cells, not taking them away...
Shows you EXACTLY what their priorities are and who they perceive as a more credible threat to their power.
 

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Hot mic recorded at a Fairfax County meeting.

Doesn't seem like they have any intention of making Fairfax County a sanctuary city like the other 90% of the state.

They might be disappointed later when they find out there are consequences for their decisions. Fairfax doesn't sound like a fair county.


Fairfax County public hearing.
Fairfax County is the other side of the potomac.......its quintessential northern va and is DC for all intents and purposes
 

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ETA they SHOULD have clearing barrels and open bolt indicators for all hands. A zip tie simply stuffed into the chamber should suffice. Something. ANYTHING!
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Oh man, clearing barrels are one of the biggest CAUSES of NDs in the military. It increases the amount of fingering of triggers and many don’t actually check the chamber before they “clear” their gun. Such a stupid idea to implement at a rally.
 

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Going unarmed to a gun rally where you're supposedly standing up for your rights sounds a lot like you've already let the other side win.

If you're afraid to carry a loaded gun to a gun rally, stay home becuase you clearly don't actually beleive in what you're saying you're there to preach. Its pathetic.
 

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Hot mic recorded at a Fairfax County meeting.

Doesn't seem like they have any intention of making Fairfax County a sanctuary city like the other 90% of the state.

They might be disappointed later when they find out there are consequences for their decisions. Fairfax doesn't sound like a fair county.


Fairfax County public hearing.
Same guy (Saslaw) is also illeagly censoring critics on his official Twitter account.

 
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Oh man, clearing barrels are one of the biggest CAUSES of NDs in the military. It increases the amount of fingering of triggers and many don’t actually check the chamber before they “clear” their gun. Such a stupid idea to implement at a rally.
You're confused. The presence of the clearing barrel didn't cause the ND. The clearing barrel just allowed the ND--which was probably going to happen at some point anyway because the guy carrying the rifle was a stupid, complacent f***stick--to happen in a safe and controlled way.

Also--complacency sets in the 100th time you've done something in a tiresomely familiar environment and are expecting the same results. This would be the first time they stepped up to these particular barrels, and their tactical awareness and attention to detail would most likely be heightened.

As it turns out, there probably will NOT be clearing barrels--and hopefully the few hopeless numb-nuts in the crowd will be on their best behavior. Hopefully.
 
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Going unarmed to a gun rally where you're supposedly standing up for your rights sounds a lot like you've already let the other side win.

If you're afraid to carry a loaded gun to a gun rally, stay home becuase you clearly don't actually beleive in what you're saying you're there to preach. Its pathetic.
BINGO!!!! Make carrying a firearm common again!
 

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More insanity...

New bill pre-filed today:

[HB 567 Indoor shooting ranges; prohibited in buildings not owned or leased by the Commonwealth.](https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+ful+HB567)

Indoor shooting ranges; prohibited in buildings not owned or leased by the Commonwealth or federal government; exceptions; civil penalty. Prohibits the operation of an indoor shooting range, defined in the bill, in any building not owned or leased by the Commonwealth or federal government unless (i) fewer than 50 employees work in the building or (ii) (a) at least 90 percent of the users of the indoor shooting range are law-enforcement officers or federal law-enforcement officers, (b) the indoor shooting range maintains a log of each user's name, phone number, address, and the law-enforcement agency where such user is employed, and (c) the indoor shooting range verifies each user's identity and address by requiring all users to present a government-issued photo-identification card. The bill provides that any person that violates the provisions of this section is subject to a civil penalty of not less than $1,000 nor more than $100,000 for the initial violation and $5,000 per day for each day of violation thereafter.
 
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More insanity...

New bills pre-filed today:

[HB 567 Indoor shooting ranges; prohibited in buildings not owned or leased by the Commonwealth.](https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201%20sum%20HB567)

Indoor shooting ranges; prohibited in buildings not owned or leased by the Commonwealth or federal government; exceptions; civil penalty. Prohibits the operation of an indoor shooting range, defined in the bill, in any building not owned or leased by the Commonwealth or federal government unless (i) fewer than 50 employees work in the building or (ii) (a) at least 90 percent of the users of the indoor shooting range are law-enforcement officers or federal law-enforcement officers, (b) the indoor shooting range maintains a log of each user's name, phone number, address, and the law-enforcement agency where such user is employed, and (c) the indoor shooting range verifies each user's identity and address by requiring all users to present a government-issued photo-identification card. The bill provides that any person that violates the provisions of this section is subject to a civil penalty of not less than $1,000 nor more than $100,000 for the initial violation and $5,000 per day for each day of violation thereafter.

[HB 568 Carrying or storing firearms in motor vehicles and vessels; exceptions; penalty.](https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201%20sum%20HB568)

Carrying or storing firearms in motor vehicles and vessels; exceptions; penalty. Provides that any person possessing or storing a firearm in a motor vehicle or vessel shall secure such firearm in a locked container, other than a glove box, that is not within the dominion and control of or readily accessible for prompt and immediate use by any person within the motor vehicle. The bill provides exceptions for law-enforcement officers, licensed security guards, military personnel in the performance of their lawful duties, or any person having a valid concealed handgun permit. A violation is punishable by a civil penalty not to exceed $2,500. The bill also removes the current exception for carrying a concealed weapon for any person who may lawfully possess a firearm and is carrying a handgun while in a personal, private motor vehicle or vessel and such handgun is secured in a container or compartment in the vehicle or vessel.

[HB 569 Out-of-state concealed handgun permits; reciprocity.](https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201%20sum%20HB569)

Out-of-state concealed handgun permits; reciprocity. Reinstates the prior law providing that the holder of an out-of-state concealed handgun permit who is at least 21 years of age is authorized to carry a concealed handgun in Virginia if the other state (i) has a 24-hour-a-day means of verification of the validity of the permits issued in that state and (ii) has requirements and qualifications that are adequate to prevent possession of a permit by persons who would be denied a permit in Virginia. Under current law, the holder of an out-of-state concealed handgun permit who is at least 21 years of age is authorized to carry a concealed handgun in Virginia if (a) the other state has a means of verification of the validity of the permits issued in that state, accessible 24 hours a day, if available; (b) the person carries a government-issued photo identification and displays it upon demand of a law-enforcement officer; and (c) the person has not previously had a Virginia concealed handgun permit revoked. The bill states that the Attorney General shall (1) determine whether states meet the requirements and qualifications of the bill, (2) maintain a registry of such states, and (3) make the registry available to law-enforcement officers for investigative purposes. The bill further requires the Attorney General to review the determinations of whether states meet the requirements and qualifications of the bill and update the registry accordingly every two years. The bill removes the requirement for the Superintendent of State Police to enter into agreements for reciprocal recognition with other states that require an agreement to be in place before the state will recognize a Virginia concealed handgun permit as valid in the state and provides that the Attorney General may enter into agreements for reciprocal recognition with any state qualifying for recognition. The bill also reinstates the recognition of certain Maryland concealed handgun permits and eliminates the requirement that the Superintendent of State Police enter into agreements for reciprocal recognition of concealed handgun permits or licenses with other states where agreements were in existence on December 1, 2015.


[HB 599 Carrying weapon into building owned or leased by the Commonwealth; penalty.](https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201%20sum%20HB599)

Carrying weapon into building owned or leased by the Commonwealth; penalty. Makes it a Class 3 misdemeanor for a person to transport any (i) gun or other weapon designed or intended to propel a missile or projectile of any kind; (ii) frame, receiver, muffler, silencer, missile, projectile, or ammunition designed for use with a dangerous weapon; or (iii) other dangerous weapon into a building owned or leased by the Commonwealth or any agency thereof, where employees of the Commonwealth or agency thereof are regularly present for the purpose of performing their official duties. A third or subsequent violation is punishable as a misdemeanor, and such offender may be confined in jail not more than 30 days and fined not more than $500, either or both. The bill provides exceptions for law-enforcement officers, conservators of the peace, magistrates, court officers, judges, city or county treasurers, commissioners or deputy commissioners of the Virginia Workers' Compensation Commission, authorized security personnel, and active military personnel while in the conduct of such individuals' official duties. The bill requires that notice of the provisions prohibiting the carrying of such weapons be posted at each public entrance to all buildings owned or leased by the Commonwealth or any agency thereof.
They keep pushing and we keep backpedaling. Not a good recipe for success
 

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More insanity...

New bill pre-filed today:

[HB 567 Indoor shooting ranges; prohibited in buildings not owned or leased by the Commonwealth.](https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+ful+HB567)

Indoor shooting ranges; prohibited in buildings not owned or leased by the Commonwealth or federal government; exceptions; civil penalty. Prohibits the operation of an indoor shooting range, defined in the bill, in any building not owned or leased by the Commonwealth or federal government unless (i) fewer than 50 employees work in the building or (ii) (a) at least 90 percent of the users of the indoor shooting range are law-enforcement officers or federal law-enforcement officers, (b) the indoor shooting range maintains a log of each user's name, phone number, address, and the law-enforcement agency where such user is employed, and (c) the indoor shooting range verifies each user's identity and address by requiring all users to present a government-issued photo-identification card. The bill provides that any person that violates the provisions of this section is subject to a civil penalty of not less than $1,000 nor more than $100,000 for the initial violation and $5,000 per day for each day of violation thereafter.
This is crazy even by MA standards. No group of politicians is this tone deaf. Getting a nagging feeling that there is some sort of set up going on.
 
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